Re: Chip Test w/ Gum Arabic


May 8, 2007

 


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#6202 May 8, 2007

Marc,



As you say a very promising looking technique indeed. One thing I'm not

clear on:



What does this mean? "This piece has a base color of Floquil, which was

given a filter of Cobalt blue artists oil paint."



What I don't know is what you mean by "a filter of Cobalt blue artists oil

paint."



Please explain ... use small words and type slowly. :0)



Thanks



Lincoln



homepages.ihug.co.nz/~mccannclan



> This piece has a base color of Floquil, which was given a filter of

> Cobalt blue artists oil paint. As soon as the filter appeared to be



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#6205 May 8, 2007

Hi Marc,



I am in Samoa at present. The weather service here has a block on Yahoo sites. Have you got the pictures located on your web site by any chance?



Regards

Rod Hutchinson

Samoan Meteorology Division

Apia, Western Samoa





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#6207 May 8, 2007

Marc



You've got to stop with all this info. I must have 50 techniques you have

offered up over the years and I will never get to them all if you don't stop

this madness. ;o]



Rick in Medford



----- Original Message -----

From: "Marc Reusser" marc@...>

To: weathering@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:02 AM

Subject: [weathering] Re: Chip Test w/ Gum Arabic





> Lincoln

>

> A filter is used in military modeling to alter the hue/chroma of an

> applied paint color to make it appear closer to, and have the

> characteristics of the prototype paint. IE. the german gray color had

> a slight blueish tint to it real life, and in certain lighting

> conditions...so to simulate this I utilized Windsor Newton artists

> oil paint from a tube (DO NOT use the water solubale artists

> oils...as they are NOT true artists oils), heavily thunned with a

> Grumbacher odorless thinner. A soft flat brush is then dipped in the

> diluted color and wiped off so that ist is only "DAMP" with the

> filter. This is than drawn painted onto the Floquil surface (making

> sure it does not puddle in corners, grooves or around details), until

> the entire surface is covered evenly and streak free [NOTE: this is

> not a "wash"...this is a "filter"....the two are completely different

> animals, and serve a different purpose]. Filters can be any color,

> they can even be multiple layered colors (let them dry good between

> applications)...it all depends what shades/colors/hues are required

> to replicate/simulate a prototoype paint color, and how it appears in

> real life.

>

> I will upload a photo of an example showing the effect odf a filter

> (the original base color will be on the right, and a heavy filter of

> Cobalt blue over the base color will be on the left)

>

>

> Hope the words were small enough...I t-y-p-e-d s-l-o-w-l-y [:-grin]

>

>

> Marc

>

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>

> --- In weathering@yahoogroups.com, "Gumtown & Kauri Pass" gkp@...>

> wrote:

>>

>> Marc,

>>

>> As you say a very promising looking technique indeed. One thing I'm

> not

>> clear on:

>>

>> What does this mean? "This piece has a base color of Floquil, which

> was

>> given a filter of Cobalt blue artists oil paint."

>>

>> What I don't know is what you mean by "a filter of Cobalt blue

> artists oil

>> paint."

>>

>> Please explain ... use small words and type slowly. :0)

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> Lincoln

>>

>> homepages.ihug.co.nz/~mccannclan

>>

>

>

>

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>



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#6208 May 8, 2007

Hi Marc,



Thanks for the pictures pointer. I can see them fine now. Two of us are here in Apia, Western Samoa repacking old paper weather records to the standards of the Australian National Archives to preserve them from further decay. In addition we are establishing a small database for storing weather data. Some records go back to 1906 when the Germans governed the place.



There a lots of nice old buildings in Apia, I reckon Chuck Doan and Mic Greenburg would just love the peeling paint you get here in the tropics. What with high humidity and hurricanes, this place is a structure modellers dream. I found an old dredge just around from the Met Office; it has some rust a modeller would die for.



Regards

Rod Hutchinson

Samoan Meteorology Division

Apia, Western Samoa





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From: weathering@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Marc Reusser

Sent: Wed 9/05/2007 7:34 a.m.

To: weathering@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [weathering] Re: Chip Test w/ Gum Arabic [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]







Hi Rod,



Weather observation in Samoa...is that like CIA Advisor/Observer in

Nicaragua?? [:-grin].....



I do have them on a temp storage page...here are the direct pic links:



Gum Arabic test photo:

home.earthlink.net/~rbadesign/ChipTest_GumArabic1.jpg



Filter example:

home.earthlink.net/~rbadesign/ChipTest_BaseColors.jpg



Hairspray Chipping Example:

home.earthlink.net/~rbadesign/ChipTest_2.jpg



Problem/difficulty with Hairspray test example:

home.earthlink.net/~rbadesign/ChipTest_3.jpg





Hope these work, and I hope the bugs there aren't eating you alive.





Regards,



Marc



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--- In weathering@yahoogroups.com, "Rod Hutchinson"

r.hutchinson@...> wrote: >

> Hi Marc,

>

> I am in Samoa at present. The weather service here has a block on

Yahoo sites. Have you got the pictures located on your web site by

any chance? >

> Regards

> Rod Hutchinson

> Samoan Meteorology Division

> Apia, Western Samoa

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>











Yahoo! Groups Links















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#6210 May 9, 2007

I hope you remembered to pack your camera Rod!







> There a lots of nice old buildings in Apia, I reckon Chuck Doan and

Mic Greenburg would just love the peeling paint you get here in the

tropics. What with high humidity and hurricanes, this place is a

structure modellers dream. I found an old dredge just around from the

Met Office; it has some rust a modeller would die for. >

> Regards

> Rod Hutchinson

> Samoan Meteorology Division

> Apia, Western Samoa

>

>



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#6212 May 9, 2007

Hi Chuck,



I have some nice shots from my last trip in 2004, and I'll go around and photograph the old dredge.



Regards

Rod Hutchinson

Samoan Meteorology Division

Apia, Western Samoa





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From: weathering@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Chuck Doan

Sent: Thu 10/05/2007 12:16 AM

To: weathering@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [weathering] Re: Chip Test w/ Gum Arabic [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]







I hope you remembered to pack your camera Rod!







> There a lots of nice old buildings in Apia, I reckon Chuck Doan and

Mic Greenburg would just love the peeling paint you get here in the

tropics. What with high humidity and hurricanes, this place is a

structure modellers dream. I found an old dredge just around from the

Met Office; it has some rust a modeller would die for. >

> Regards

> Rod Hutchinson

> Samoan Meteorology Division

> Apia, Western Samoa

>

>









Yahoo! Groups Links















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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#6214 May 9, 2007

Awsome!









>

> Hi Chuck,

>

> I have some nice shots from my last trip in 2004, and I'll go around

and photograph the old dredge. >

> Regards

> Rod Hutchinson

> Samoan Meteorology Division

> Apia, Western Samoa

>

>

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>

> From: weathering@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Chuck Doan

> Sent: Thu 10/05/2007 12:16 AM

> To: weathering@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [weathering] Re: Chip Test w/ Gum Arabic [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

>

>

>

> I hope you remembered to pack your camera Rod!

>

>

>

>

> > There a lots of nice old buildings in Apia, I reckon Chuck Doan and

> Mic Greenburg would just love the peeling paint you get here in the

> tropics. What with high humidity and hurricanes, this place is a

> structure modellers dream. I found an old dredge just around from the

> Met Office; it has some rust a modeller would die for.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rod Hutchinson

> > Samoan Meteorology Division

> > Apia, Western Samoa

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>



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#6229 May 16, 2007

Mark, The weathering techniques are great! But, I would like to

know what material you used and how you made the corregated sheets.

I thought I read that you made them.



Henry



--- In weathering@yahoogroups.com, "Gumtown & Kauri Pass" gkp@...>

wrote: >

> Marc,

>

> As you say a very promising looking technique indeed. One thing I'm

not > clear on:

>

> What does this mean? "This piece has a base color of Floquil, which

was > given a filter of Cobalt blue artists oil paint."

>

> What I don't know is what you mean by "a filter of Cobalt blue

artists oil > paint."

>

> Please explain ... use small words and type slowly. :0)

>

> Thanks

>

> Lincoln

>

> homepages.ihug.co.nz/~mccannclan

>

>

> > This piece has a base color of Floquil, which was given a filter

of > > Cobalt blue artists oil paint. As soon as the filter appeared to

be >



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