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RE: [weathering] Re: diminishing perspective


Apr 28, 2012

 


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#11879 Apr 28, 2012

I'd love to hear ifsomeone has used diminishing perspective in their builds. For instance: did you use aparticular angle or degree? Did you lay out a vanishing focal pt�� and workthat way?I want someone looking from outside my 1:12 greenhouse into the attachedmarket garden store to see a seemingly��larger (longer?)��area thanactually is and again viewing from the other side, from the fruit & vegstand into the store thru to the greenhouse.��I realize this scale is tremendously larger than what you guys work in....but realism is realism and lately I've gotten more inspiration frommodelers/railroaders than miniaturists.~K��Karin Fosterorrlakemusings.blogspot.com/www.facebook.com/orrlakeminis



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#11880 Apr 28, 2012

Yes I have.�� Use a focal vanishing point as you mentioned.�� Fromwhere you're standing looking into the model scene, draw all straight lines in amanner to reach that point.�� The downside to this approach is that a viewermust have their eyes in exactly in the location that you had yours inestablishing the point and the angles to it.��Keevan��In a message dated 4/28/2012 12:45:28 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,karin.r.foster@... writes:I'd love to hear ifsomeone has used diminishing perspective in their builds. For instance: did you use aparticular angle or degree? Did you lay out a vanishing focal pt�� andwork that way?I want someone looking from outside my 1:12 greenhouse into theattached market garden store to see a seemingly��larger(longer?)��area than actually is and again viewing from the other side,from the fruit & veg stand into the store thru to thegreenhouse.��I realize this scale is tremendously larger than what you guys work in....but realism is realism and lately I've gotten more inspiration frommodelers/railroaders than miniaturists.~K��KarinFoster



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#11881 Apr 28, 2012

Karen,��Within the model railroading community, the question you have asked about is what we call FORCED PERSPECTIVE.��So you may want to Google "forced perspective" to see what you come up with.��This works the best if the viewing angle of the scene is limited.��If someone can look at it from either side instead of face on, then the effect backfires.��I think most model railroaders kept this in mind when they build something.��I model mostly in O scale but I find people selling items as O scale that are 1/43rd,1/45th, 1/48th, 1/50th and 1/55th.��I make sure I keep the larger scale items like 1/43rd up front and place the smaller scale items in the back.��Darryl Huffmandarrylhuffman@...

Easy Weathering DVD available:www.darrylhuffman.50megs.com/custom3.html

���� From: Karin Foster karin.r.foster@...> To:weathering@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [weathering] diminishing perspective

I'd love to hear ifsomeone has used diminishing perspective in their builds.



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#11882 Apr 28, 2012

See Nick Muff's articles in Mainline Modeler--he is a master of forced perspective, or diminishing perspective if you prefer.

Fred Tolhurst

Maryville, TN



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From: Darryl Huffman darrylhuffman@...>

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Sent: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 2:53 pm

Subject: Re: [weathering] diminishing perspective

��Karen,��Within the model railroading community, the question you have asked about is what we call FORCED PERSPECTIVE.��So you may want to Google "forced perspective" to see what you come up with.��This works the best if the viewing angle of the scene is limited.��If someone can look at it from either side instead of face on, then the effect backfires.��I think most model railroaders kept this in mind when they build something.��I model mostly in O scale but I find people selling items as O scale that are 1/43rd,1/45th, 1/48th, 1/50th and 1/55th.��I make sure I keep the larger scale items like 1/43rd up front and place the smaller scale items in the back.��Darryl Huffman

darrylhuffman@...



Easy Weathering DVD available:

www.darrylhuffman.50megs.com/custom3.html

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From: Karin Foster karin.r.foster@...>

To:weathering@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:16 AM

Subject: [weathering] diminishing perspective





I'd love to hear ifsomeone has used diminishing perspective in their builds.



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#11883 Apr 28, 2012

John Armstrong had an article in the January 1989 Model Railroader called "Modeling a Mood" about how he built a model based on Edward Hopper's wonderful painting Nighthawks into his 1/4" layout. ��I consider this to have been on of the most important modeling railroading articles ever written (at least in its effects on me). ��It includes a great deal on the use of perspective, both forced and otherwise.��

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, Oregon



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#11884 Apr 29, 2012

Karin



Here is a good video I found while googling it up.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfaDY_ffJYs&feature=player_embedded



Christopher

--- In weathering@yahoogroups.com, "Karin Foster" karin.r.foster@...> wrote:

>

> I'd love to hear if someone has used diminishing perspective in their

> builds. For instance: did you use a particular angle or degree? Did you lay

> out a vanishing focal pt and work that way?

> I want someone looking from outside my 1:12 greenhouse into the attached

> market garden store to see a seemingly larger (longer?) area than actually

> is and again viewing from the other side, from the fruit & veg stand into

> the store thru to the greenhouse.

>

> I realize this scale is tremendously larger than what you guys work in

> ....but realism is realism and lately I've gotten more inspiration from

> modelers/railroaders than miniaturists.

> ~K

>

> Karin Foster







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#11887 Apr 29, 2012

--- In weathering@yahoogroups.com,



check this video. Earl has been modeling since the early '60s. >

> model-railroad-hobbyist.com/MRHT_2009_NMRA_CLINIC_EarlSmallshaw

>



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#11889 Apr 29, 2012

The California Museum of Science & Industry in Los Angeles��� Exposition Park had an O scale layout until the 1980���s, built by the Troxel brothers.�� It used forced perspective.�� It was a ���window box��� setting around a 2nd floor gallery.�� Probably 40���x30���.�� This included S scale cars running on a belt, a harbor, etc.�� There was also a canyon with a very small train (would be Z or less) running in a slot at the bottom.�� I have two pics I could send, but the effect is so well done you don���t see the ���tricks��� in the photos. ��Rick �� ��From: weathering@yahoogroups.com [mailto:weathering@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher BlackwellSent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:03 PMTo: weathering@yahoogroups.comSubject: [weathering] Re: diminishing perspective



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