Re: [weathering] Re: Air brush for sale---- A


Apr 5, 2008

 


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#7441 Apr 5, 2008

Greetings,



I have a never used, new in the box Aztec model A470. It is double

action, has 5 or 6 different nozzles, and is encased in a wooden box.

There is also a video instruction tape included. Aztec is made by

Testors, and the A470 currently lists for around $199, but on line sell

for around $150. I'll let this one go for $99 plus shipping. I've had

it for a few years, but it is brand new. I don't need it because I no

longer spray.



I also have a used Badger Model 180-1 air compressor with

pressure regulator-gauge that I would sell for $85 plus shipping.



Thanks.



Pete Nelson

Lakeville, MN



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#7442 Apr 5, 2008

Pete,



First gut reaction is how else are you doing weathering? Is it something

you'd care to share with the rest of us? We are open to divergent techniques

to accomplish a common goal, the weathering of things.....



Second obvious question; why don't you no longer spray?



Keevan





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I don't need it because I no

longer spray.











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#7445 Apr 5, 2008

--- In weathering@yahoogroups.com, Kjb80401@... wrote: >

> Pete,

> First gut reaction is how else are you doing weathering? Is it

something you'd care to share with the rest of us? We are open to

divergent techniques to accomplish a common goal, the weathering of

things..... > Second obvious question; why don't you no longer spray?

> Keevan

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Keevan....your always saying i do this, this way and i do that this

way, ect. But how come you NEVER post pictures of your actual

work ?????????? You talk a good stick but do not show it.

madmike3434



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#7451 Apr 6, 2008

madmike3434,



I've gotten old and cranky these days and don't spend much time modeling

anymore. I spend a lot of time in front of either the computer or the

television. I've been modeling, in HO, since the late forties and have done a lot of

things and been a lot of places.



During this period of time I've learned a lot, done a lot on my own from

that larning, and taught a bunch of folks over the years as to how I did it in

case they might learn something from it. I've done clinics at local,

regional, and national conventions as a testament to all this. I'll be giving a

clinic on decaling this month at our Division meeting. I've also given clinics

on weathering, "Color Consciousness", scratch-building, hand-laying track,

plastic structure building tips, background painting, just to identify a few.



To offer pictures to the group would be superfluous in that there are many

fine examples of weathering already in the photo albums. Tell you what, I'll

upload a couple of pics of my layout to demonstrate the background painting

I've done on my layout. Hope that will satisfy you for the moment. Just

uploaded five pics to my photo album "Keevan's Pics". Note the painting was done

using good old wall paint, not artists' acrylics like some do. The pictures

are three years old for reference.



To accomplish adding pictures of models would mean that I have to go down to

the layout room or the hobby room, set up a shoot, take pictures with my

rather cheap camera, and then take the time and make the effort to upload them.

Perhaps some day when I get properly inspired.



Yours in training, Keevan







In a message dated 4/5/2008 8:15:17 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

madmike3434@... writes:



Keevan....your always saying i do this, this way and i do that this

way, ect. But how come you NEVER post pictures of your actual

work ?????????? You talk a good stick but do not show it.

madmike3434









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#7452 Apr 6, 2008

Very nice background paintings Keevan. I am very impressed you did that

with "wall paint". I presume that was a latex paint. While I find the

models done by some on the list to be god and interesting, I am far more

impressed by people who build a model railroad with structures, scenery,

background paintings etc.



Stan Knotts



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Behalf Of Kjb80401@...

Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 2:15 PM

To: weathering@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [weathering] Re: Air brush for sale





madmike3434,



I've gotten old and cranky these days and don't spend much time modeling



anymore. I spend a lot of time in front of either the computer or the

television. I've been modeling, in HO, since the late forties and have

done a lot of

things and been a lot of places.



During this period of time I've learned a lot, done a lot on my own from



that larning, and taught a bunch of folks over the years as to how I did

it in

case they might learn something from it. I've done clinics at local,

regional, and national conventions as a testament to all this. I'll be

giving a

clinic on decaling this month at our Division meeting. I've also given

clinics

on weathering, "Color Consciousness", scratch-building, hand-laying

track,

plastic structure building tips, background painting, just to identify

a few.



To offer pictures to the group would be superfluous in that there are

many

fine examples of weathering already in the photo albums. Tell you

what, I'll

upload a couple of pics of my layout to demonstrate the background

painting

I've done on my layout. Hope that will satisfy you for the moment.

Just

uploaded five pics to my photo album "Keevan's Pics". Note the

painting was done

using good old wall paint, not artists' acrylics like some do. The

pictures

are three years old for reference.



To accomplish adding pictures of models would mean that I have to go

down to

the layout room or the hobby room, set up a shoot, take pictures with my



rather cheap camera, and then take the time and make the effort to

upload them.

Perhaps some day when I get properly inspired.



Yours in training, Keevan







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#7453 Apr 6, 2008

--- In weathering@yahoogroups.com, Kjb80401@... wrote: >

Well, one very nice backdrop #3, but that was not what i was after,

your using a bait and switch technique.

I specifically wanted to see your examples of ''weathered models'' to

see if the examples back up the talk. There is a ton of room in the

photos section, and i am sure that everybody would like to see lots

of examples from somebody who talks the talk.



Fire up that camera and a light source and click away. Or take a

completed diorama outside and shoot away.........madmike3434

--------------- >

> madmike3434,

> I've gotten old and cranky these days and don't spend much time

modeling anymore. I spend a lot of time in front of either the

computer or the television. I've been modeling, in HO, since the

late forties and have done a lot of things and been a lot of places. >

> During this period of time I've learned a lot, done a lot on my own

from > that larning, and taught a bunch of folks over the years as to how

I did it in > case they might learn something from it. I've done clinics at

local, > regional, and national conventions as a testament to all this.

I'll be giving a > clinic on decaling this month at our Division meeting. I've also

given clinics > on weathering, "Color Consciousness", scratch-building, hand-

laying track, > plastic structure building tips, background painting, just to

identify a few. >

> To offer pictures to the group would be superfluous in that there

are many > fine examples of weathering already in the photo albums. Tell you

what, I'll > upload a couple of pics of my layout to demonstrate the background

painting > I've done on my layout. Hope that will satisfy you for the

moment. Just > uploaded five pics to my photo album "Keevan's Pics". Note the

painting was done > using good old wall paint, not artists' acrylics like some do.

The pictures > are three years old for reference.

>

> To accomplish adding pictures of models would mean that I have to

go down to > the layout room or the hobby room, set up a shoot, take pictures

with my > rather cheap camera, and then take the time and make the effort to

upload them. > Perhaps some day when I get properly inspired.

>

> Yours in training, Keevan

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2008 8:15:17 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> madmike3434@... writes:

>

> Keevan....your always saying i do this, this way and i do that

this > way, ect. But how come you NEVER post pictures of your actual

> work ?????????? You talk a good stick but do not show it.

> madmike3434

>

>

>

>

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#7454 Apr 6, 2008

Stan,



On another Group that I belong to I described in some detail as to how and

why I did it that way. I graduated from college majoring in 'Art' but am

natuarally inquisitive as to 'how to do the same thing less expensively'. I know

the costs of artists' acrylics paints, and those using it do superb work

(AKA, Greg Gray, et. al.), but at a somewhat of a cost of doing so.



I learned way back in grade school how to work with Tempera paints (water

soluable and mixable). That is so close to the way you would use ordinary

'latex paint' or 'acrylic paints' (as it is known as these days) that I surmised

that I could use those learned techniques when using wall paint. I've spent

in the neighborhood of $100 for all the paint to cover about 80 x 4 foot of

wall behind my layout. That's nothing to sneeze at. Especially when it's

compared to what artists' acrylics would have cost otherwise.



Go to your local Home Despot, or whatever, and collect a bunch of paint

chips to take home and decide what it is you want to purchase for painting your

background. That's what I did. Got a bunch of quart-sized cans.



Have fun,,,,, like I have, Keevan





In a message dated 4/6/2008 2:27:29 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

srknotts@... writes:



Very nice background paintings Keevan. I am very impressed you did that

with "wall paint". I presume that was a latex paint.









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#7455 Apr 6, 2008

Actually Keevan, I have done a few simple tree only backdrops just over

and between my mountains with model trees in front of the painted ones.

I used craft paint acrylics - very cheap and I did not need much... but

we are off topic for this list.



In keeping with the list purpose I also use those craft paints in

painting and weathering my structures. Floquil has become very pricey

and I find I can control the water-based paints more easily. I rarely

use my airbrushes.



Stan Knotts



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From: weathering@yahoogroups.com [mailto:weathering@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of Kjb80401@...

Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 4:42 PM

To: weathering@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [weathering] Re: Air brush for sale



Stan,



On another Group that I belong to I described in some detail as to how

and

why I did it that way. I graduated from college majoring in 'Art' but

am

natuarally inquisitive as to 'how to do the same thing less

expensively'. I know

the costs of artists' acrylics paints, and those using it do superb work



(AKA, Greg Gray, et. al.), but at a somewhat of a cost of doing so.



I learned way back in grade school how to work with Tempera paints

(water

soluable and mixable). That is so close to the way you would use

ordinary

'latex paint' or 'acrylic paints' (as it is known as these days) that I

surmised

that I could use those learned techniques when using wall paint. I've

spent

in the neighborhood of $100 for all the paint to cover about 80 x 4

foot of

wall behind my layout. That's nothing to sneeze at. Especially when

it's

compared to what artists' acrylics would have cost otherwise.



Go to your local Home Despot, or whatever, and collect a bunch of paint



chips to take home and decide what it is you want to purchase for

painting your

background. That's what I did. Got a bunch of quart-sized cans.



Have fun,,,,, like I have, Keevan







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#7456 Apr 6, 2008

Like I said, "Perhaps some day when I get properly inspired."



Keevan





In a message dated 4/6/2008 2:30:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

madmike3434@... writes:



Fire up that camera and a light source and click away.









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#7457 Apr 6, 2008

--- In weathering@yahoogroups.com, Kjb80401@... wrote: >

> Like I said, "Perhaps some day when I get properly inspired."

>

> Keevan

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Thats the same lame excuse you gave me 3 years ago after ripping a

model i built and telling me all these great ways to make it better.



I said then and i am saying now, put your best model work up for

view.!



Lets see if you can produce what you say your doing , or in this case

once did.

Lets see that darker un-faded paint under the eves fading down the

wall into lighter shades.

Show us how you did the 4 walls in different weathering to represent

the buildings position too the southern sun.

Then show us all the dirt splashing up on the wood walls from the

lack of evestroughs.



WELL >>>>>>>>>>> can you show us??????

madmike3434



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#7458 Apr 6, 2008

This I didn't do, nor did I profess to do. I have heard others doing this

but it wasn't me. The other things you mentioned in your email I have done

and was meant as constructive criticism, not berailing your work but how it

might be improved.



Sorry you hold such a grudge, for so long,



Respectfully, Keevan





In a message dated 4/6/2008 4:40:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

madmike3434@... writes:



Show us how you did the 4 walls in different weathering to represent

the buildings position too the southern sun.









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#7462 Apr 6, 2008

Hi Mike,



How about cooling it a bit!!! Or take it off the group and send private

e-mails if you.re going to be bashing someone.



And Keevan - You shouldn.t take his bait.



Thanks,



Ray





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From: weathering@yahoogroups.com [mailto:weathering@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of michael lynch

Sent: Sunday, 06 April, 2008 6:40 PM

To: weathering@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [weathering] Re: Air brush for sale---- A



--- In weathering@yahoogroups.com mailto:weathering%40yahoogroups.com> ,

Kjb80401@... wrote: >

> Like I said, "Perhaps some day when I get properly inspired."

>

> Keevan

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;



Thats the same lame excuse you gave me 3 years ago after ripping a

model i built and telling me all these great ways to make it better.



I said then and i am saying now, put your best model work up for

view.!



Lets see if you can produce what you say your doing , or in this case

once did.

Lets see that darker un-faded paint under the eves fading down the

wall into lighter shades.

Show us how you did the 4 walls in different weathering to represent

the buildings position too the southern sun.

Then show us all the dirt splashing up on the wood walls from the

lack of evestroughs.



WELL >>>>>>>>>>> can you show us??????

madmike3434







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#7480 Apr 7, 2008

MadMike.... get a life, man.... tho I am usually quite tollerant of rude

behavior, your continual rantings and ravings make me sick!!!!! Who in hell

died and made you the modeler exemplar.... many of us are just sick and

tired of crap like you regularly pull...

Why don't you, Mike, show us how well you have learned your lesson in

social remedial behavior 101, and just shut up!!!! Methinks you are

acquiring a new nickname. "Delete MadMike, Delete"

If you need another cause, join the Democratic Party.... plenty there

to rant about...

ole Ron, geezer in Nowhere, Texas



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Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:50 PM

Subject: Re: [weathering] Re: Air brush for sale---- A





> This I didn't do, nor did I profess to do. I have heard others doing

> this

> but it wasn't me. The other things you mentioned in your email I have

> done

> and was meant as constructive criticism, not berailing your work but how

> it

> might be improved.

>

> Sorry you hold such a grudge, for so long,

>

> Respectfully, Keevan

>

>

> In a message dated 4/6/2008 4:40:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> madmike3434@... writes:

>

> Show us how you did the 4 walls in different weathering to represent

> the buildings position too the southern sun.

>

>

>

>

> **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.

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