Re: [TV_Antennas] Several tv channels on one channel


Aug 2, 2015

 


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#929 Aug 2, 2015

Hello All,I am about to buy a new tv set and hook a tv antenna to it.How can I set it up so as that I can put it on one channel that will display perhaps six channels at the same time?In the past, Directv had the "Newsmix", (with six news channels) & cartoon mix with six cartoon channels displayed on one channel, which was super fantastic.In the past,  there used to be picture in picture on some tvs.Some tvs could display a bunch of picture thumbnails after the tv would take only a screen shot of the other channels.In todays technologies, how can I make this happen?Thank you,mike 



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#930 Aug 2, 2015

Well, to start out with, you would need six separate digital decoders, one for each TV channel.. Remember the set top boxes the government were giving out for free when the analog/digital conversion just occurred?. Six of those.. After that, I would imagine you would have to get a computer and a program involved somehow that could display all six channels on the screen at the same time in a grid, Brady Bunch style.

Perhaps others on the list could give more help.

Robert



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#931 Aug 2, 2015

google "home run" it connects up to the internet, and distributes content through your LAN. It. You may need a computer with HDMI out. Its a bit pricey, but one time charge for equipment

 Some computer astc cards (not dongles) will scan multiple channels and display in a static  grid format, less costly alternative.

Good luck.73Dan Ky4jly

 

To: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.comFrom: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.comDate: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 11:58:11 -0700Subject: [TV_Antennas] Several tv channels on one channel

 

Hello All,I am about to buy a new tv set and hook a tv antenna to it.How can I set it up so as that I can put it on one channel that will display perhaps six channels at the same time?In the past, Directv had the "Newsmix", (with six news channels) & cartoon mix with six cartoon channels displayed on one channel, which was super fantastic.In the past,  there used to be picture in picture on some tvs.Some tvs could display a bunch of picture thumbnails after the tv would take only a screen shot of the other channels.In todays technologies, how can I make this happen?Thank you,mike 



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#932 Aug 2, 2015

Hello,

That is a great idea.

Ok, I am 100% mentally with you in the use of the six separate tuners/decoders , as the source.

But, mentally I do not know past that point.

I need additional info to craft it together.







--------------- On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 12:23 PM PDT Robert Williams will7370@... [TV_Antennas] wrote:



>Well, to start out with, you would need six separate digital decoders, one

>for each TV channel. Remember the set top boxes the government were giving

>out for free when the analog/digital conversion just occurred? Six of

>those. After that, I would imagine you would have to get a computer and a

>program involved somehow that could display all six channels on the screen

>at the same time in a grid, Brady Bunch style.

>

>Perhaps others on the list could give more help.

>

>Robert

>

>On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:58 PM, antennagarden@... [TV_Antennas]

>TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Hello All,

>>

>> I am about to buy a new tv set and hook a tv antenna to it.

>>

>> How can I set it up so as that I can put it on one channel that will

>> display perhaps six channels at the same time?

>>

>> In the past, Directv had the "Newsmix", (with six news channels) & cartoon

>> mix with six cartoon channels displayed on one channel, which was super

>> fantastic.

>>

>> In the past, there used to be picture in picture on some tvs.

>>

>> Some tvs could display a bunch of picture thumbnails after the tv would

>> take only a screen shot of the other channels.

>>

>> In todays technologies, how can I make this happen?

>>

>> Thank you,

>>

>> mike

>>

>>

>>



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#933 Aug 2, 2015

Using six tuners just gets you six video streams.  You still need to bring them into a computing environment and combine them into one.  The digital receivers metioned earlier output an RF signal.  That will require something with six RF video inputs and enough processing power to reduce the image size and combine them into one display.  It's possible you might find inexpensive computers of some kind that will act as RF video inputs.  They can share their video over a network, but I don't know anything about what might serve to combine the videos into one video stream. 

If you have to use six computers to bring the RF video streams into the system, you might find units that have the TV tuner built in such as the all-in-one devices that you can buy to plug into a monitor HDMI port or computer USB port.  They were around $50 each the last time I saw one.

Rick



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#934 Aug 2, 2015

2- Blade processors in parallel processing mode,  will handle that much hd data, and compress to a single image in real time.

To: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.comFrom: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.comDate: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 18:19:10 -0700Subject: Re: [TV_Antennas] Several tv channels on one channel

 Using six tuners just gets you six video streams.  You still need to bring them into a computing environment and combine them into one.  The digital receivers metioned earlier output an RF signal.  That will require something with six RF video inputs and enough processing power to reduce the image size and combine them into one display.  It's possible you might find inexpensive computers of some kind that will act as RF video inputs.  They can share their video over a network, but I don't know anything about what might serve to combine the videos into one video stream. 

If you have to use six computers to bring the RF video streams into the system, you might find units that have the TV tuner built in such as the all-in-one devices that you can buy to plug into a monitor HDMI port or computer USB port.  They were around $50 each the last time I saw one.

Rick







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#935 Aug 2, 2015

What happened to the picture in picture?  It was a great feature an I miss smart sound too. Why would they remove technologies like that?

 Bill Silly Windows, computing is for Macs!



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#936 Aug 2, 2015

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picture-in-picture looks lie 70-80's Im suprised directtv had it.I guess f its a make or deal breaker, stick with direct tv. I do know the analog ntsc cards had that feature.

From: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.comDate: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 03:44:39 +0000Subject: Re: [TV_Antennas] Several tv channels on one channel

 

What happened to the picture in picture?  It was a great feature an I miss smart sound too. Why would they remove technologies like that?

 Bill Silly Windows, computing is for Macs!



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#937 Aug 2, 2015

On 8/2/2015 9:17 PM, dan m KY4JLY notfor toast estefan2020@... [TV_Antennas] wrote:

2- Blade processors in parallel processing mode,.will handle that much hd data, and compress to a single imagein real time.



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#938 Aug 2, 2015

On 8/2/2015 11:13 PM, dan m KY4JLY notfor toast estefan2020@... [TV_Antennas] wrote:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picture-in-picture.lookslie 70-80's Im suprised directtv had it.

I guess f its a make or deal breaker, stick with direct tv. I doknow the analog ntsc cards had that feature.

From: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 03:44:39 +0000

Subject: Re: [TV_Antennas] Several tv channels on onechannel



. What happened to the picture inpicture?. It was a great feature an I miss smartsound too. Why would they remove technologies likethat?

.Bill.SillyWindows, computing is forMacs!



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#939 Aug 2, 2015

If you're wanting six video feeds with no audio, keep in mind you don't need to use an RF signal.. The yellow RCA jack on the back of set top converters provide baseband video---much easier to use and manipulate.On Aug 2, 2015 10:18 PM, "Dale Miller stpatrick2@... [TV_Antennas]" TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

.On 8/2/2015 11:13 PM, dan m KY4JLY notfor toast estefan2020@... [TV_Antennas] wrote:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picture-in-picture.lookslie 70-80's Im suprised directtv had it.

I guess f its a make or deal breaker, stick with direct tv. I doknow the analog ntsc cards had that feature.

From: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 03:44:39 +0000

Subject: Re: [TV_Antennas] Several tv channels on onechannel



. What happened to the picture inpicture?. It was a great feature an I miss smartsound too. Why would they remove technologies likethat?

.Bill.SillyWindows, computing is forMacs!



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#940 Aug 3, 2015

To: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.comFrom: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.comDate: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 23:16:52 -0500Subject: Re: [TV_Antennas] Several tv channels on one channel

 

On 8/2/2015 9:17 PM, dan m KY4JLY notfor toast estefan2020@... [TV_Antennas] wrote:

2- Blade processors in parallel processing mode, will handle that much hd data, and compress to a single imagein real time.



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#941 Aug 3, 2015

On 8/3/2015 8:41 AM, dan m KY4JLY notfor toast estefan2020@... [TV_Antennas] wrote:





To: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com

From: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com

Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 23:16:52 -0500

Subject: Re: [TV_Antennas] Several tv channels on one channel



. On 8/2/2015 9:17 PM, danm KY4JLY not for toast estefan2020@...[TV_Antennas] wrote:

2- Blade processors in parallelprocessing mode, .will handle that much hd data, andcompress to a single image in real time.



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#942 Aug 3, 2015

It was and wonder why they could put multiple tuners in old TVs but not new ones.  Smart sound went away about the time High Def came in but I dont know if it was directly linked.  I miss it since I didnt have to adjust the sound when a noisy appliance would kick on or off. Bill Silly Windows, computing is for Macs!



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#943 Aug 4, 2015

/////////It was and wonder why they could put multiple tuners in old TVs but not new ones. ///////////It can be done, but it won't be, anytime soon, anyway.North America is the market for ATSC devices, mostly the US and Canada. OTA TV is not a major sales driver in Canada, and the US is not much better. Most consumers are tied to a subscription for TV service. That would cause a multiple tuner set to have to conform to whatever sort of signal was provided by the provider. Lots or cable providers now require a receiver to request a program before it is sent....essentially requiring a cable box for each program received.. Satellite providers have their ways. No matter how many tuners a TV set has, it may not be possible to receive but one program at a time, per subscription. That has nothing to do with over the air reception. But there are not enough OTA users to justify the cost of development and production of multiple tuner chip sets for stand alone TV's.For multiple programs on one screen, most consumers will have to depend on a cable box, if cable companies see fit to provide such a service in the future.For now, a computer is the only way.There would be nothing preventing one to cut a piece of box board, paint it shiny black, put two rectangular holes in it and put two small (5"-7") TVs in the holes, and monitor two programs while watching a larger screen TV  that has those two smaller ones attached to the top of it. I might be kidding about the box board, a frame could be made from a lot of things. The two smaller sets on top of the larger could look like a single unit, and display 3 OTA or clear QAM  programs at the same time.  

---In TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com, childfree71@...> wrote :

It was and wonder why they could put multiple tuners in old TVs but not new ones.  Smart sound went away about the time High Def came in but I dont know if it was directly linked.  I miss it since I didnt have to adjust the sound when a noisy appliance would kick on or off. Bill Silly Windows, computing is for Macs!







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#944 Aug 4, 2015

This is true since SatelliteTV has always required a separate tuner box then, recently, cable companies have 'upgraded' (really downgraded) to all digital cable which means ALL channels are scrambled thus needing a box to decode them so its like TV in 1980 all over again where TV's needed a cable box to get cable channels.  They do that just to get more $$$ out of ppl.

The OTA market is growing since pay TV is pricing itself out of the market and streaming is more popular and inexpensive.



I like the 7" TV idea.  I could do that if I wanted since I have one but never really desired to lately. Bill Silly Windows, computing is for Macs!



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#945 Aug 5, 2015

well ota went digital 7+ years ago, you know cable was just a matter of time. dvr/pvr are now the new vcrs. The7in tvs are now outdated, tablets with mydoidtv.com for downloading tv shows, and casting to smart tvs. Streaming with kodi and kodi configulator for everything on wifi, is the new norm.

To: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.comFrom: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.comDate: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 23:06:44 +0000Subject: Re: [TV_Antennas] Several tv channels on one channel

 

This is true since SatelliteTV has always required a separate tuner box then, recently, cable companies have 'upgraded' (really downgraded) to all digital cable which means ALL channels are scrambled thus needing a box to decode them so its like TV in 1980 all over again where TV's needed a cable box to get cable channels.  They do that just to get more $$$ out of ppl.

The OTA market is growing since pay TV is pricing itself out of the market and streaming is more popular and inexpensive.



I like the 7" TV idea.  I could do that if I wanted since I have one but never really desired to lately. Bill Silly Windows, computing is for Macs!



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#946 Aug 5, 2015

I never had problem w/ cable going all digital signals since they had HD signals that HD TVs could receive and get the full Hi Def but the Cable companies took advantage of that by scrambling the signals to get more $$$ out of us.  On top of that, it made it so my DVR (Magnivox HDD DVR w/o a service fee) couldn't get the signals either so that would be a cable box and a DVR if I wanted to remain status quo (about $20-30 more/mo).  Needless to say during that conversion I found a way around the DVR issue.  I moved since that issue and don't have cable and certainly wouldn't since this company doesn't have the good channels such as MTV, Comedy, Nick, etc (Viacom).

My 7" works great as long as I'm stationary. Bill Silly Windows, computing is for Macs!



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