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Re: FM reception


Jul 10, 2011

 


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#379 Jul 10, 2011

Hello,

I'm a hobbyist.

1. In most situations, will a dedicated FM antenna perform better than.TV antenna??

2. I have the.Channel Master 4228. previous generation which is considered a UHF antenna, but it will still pickup channels 7-13. Can it pickup FM

... signals worth trying??

3. Do you have other brands & model #s to recommend??

.

I also have a Centronics VHF/UHF/FM TV antenna about 180 inch's long..A Winegard produced brand for.a aftermarket company). One of the plastic tabs broke within.6 months.Then second tab.broke about 3 years later.

What about a Channel Master 3671, or Winegard 8200?

.

I want to.connect.an antenna to my.radio stereo receiver; in the country. Reception is a serious challege.

.

Antennaweb.org states:." There are no stations predicted to serve this location ".

According to Antennaweb.org I have to put the antenna up 226 feet high to get my first tv station.

.

A. Some FM antennas I'm looking at Winegard HD 6055P (82")

B. Antennacraft FM6 70" FM antenna.

C. Magnum Dynalab MD-10 ( "142") = ($350.00? out of my price range).

D. try to find a discontinued. .APS-13 ( 200"). = ($ 250.00?. probably out of my price range) or.

E. a discontinued Winegard HD 6065P (127") about $100.00?

Thank you

Mike



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#381 Jul 11, 2011

Mike,

Most TV VHF Antenna designs are LPDAs.So most of the time 3 sets of.elements.active for each channel.

Take a look at the Spectrum.assignments, (see ref).VHF-TV-Low [2-6] (54-88),.FM (88-108),.VHF-TV-High [7-13] (174-216),.UHF-TV[14-51](470-698) MHz.

Note the old VHF TV bands covered ~4-octaves, where DTV VHF is now ~1/8-octaves,FM is just over ~1/2-octaves, and DTV UHF is ~2/3-octaves.This means other TV.Antenna designs can be used, like Yagies.

.An old VHF TV ant. will covers FM, but a new DTV ant. may not.

What are you trying to do?Bring in one station, LD DXing, or work the local FM band?Each uses a different Antenna design...



...KB1FBJ



REF: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_broadcast_television_frequencies> --- On Sun, 7/10/11, Mike Friend antennagarden@...> wrote:



From: Mike Friend antennagarden@...>

Subject: [TV_Antennas] FM reception

To: "TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com" TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 8:05 PM

































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Hello,



I'm a hobbyist.



1. In most situations, will a dedicated FM antenna perform better than.TV antenna??



2. I have the.Channel Master 4228. previous generation which is considered a UHF antenna, but it will still pickup channels 7-13. Can it pickup FM



... signals worth trying??



3. Do you have other brands & model #s to recommend??



.



I also have a Centronics VHF/UHF/FM TV antenna about 180 inch's long..A Winegard produced brand for.a aftermarket company). One of the plastic tabs broke within.6 months.Then second tab.broke about 3 years later.



What about a Channel Master 3671, or Winegard 8200?



.



I want to.connect.an antenna to my.radio stereo receiver; in the country. Reception is a serious challege.



.



Antennaweb.org states:." There are no stations predicted to serve this location ".



According to Antennaweb.org I have to put the antenna up 226 feet high to get my first tv station.



.



A. Some FM antennas I'm looking at Winegard HD 6055P (82")



B. Antennacraft FM6 70" FM antenna.



C. Magnum Dynalab MD-10 ( "142") = ($350.00? out of my price range).



D. try to find a discontinued. .APS-13 ( 200"). = ($ 250.00?. probably out of my price range) or.



E. a discontinued Winegard HD 6065P (127") about $100.00?



Thank you



Mike







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#382 Jul 11, 2011

Thanks for the great info.

I.understand.a little about DXing TV & AM radio stations reception; but I never thought about the concept of FM DXing.

In my.vacation home (about 800 feet in the bottom of valley) I'm trying to.receive.daytime FM stations.ranging about 20 to 100 miles away..

"What are you trying to do?Bring in one station, LD DXing, or work the local FM band?Each uses a different Antenna design..."

Sorry, I'm too new to this, to understand the concept of your question.

Only if its practical, please explain a little more of your question.

Thank you

Mike.



From: Donald Doughty dondoughty@...>

To: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:02 PM

Subject: Re: [TV_Antennas] FM reception





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Mike,

Most TV VHF Antenna designs are LPDAs.So most of the time 3 sets of.elements.active for each channel.

Take a look at the Spectrum.assignments, (see ref).VHF-TV-Low [2-6] (54-88),.FM (88-108),.VHF-TV-High [7-13] (174-216),.UHF-TV[14-51](470-698) MHz.

Note the old VHF TV bands covered ~4-octaves, where DTV VHF is now ~1/8-octaves,FM is just over ~1/2-octaves, and DTV UHF is ~2/3-octaves.This means other TV.Antenna designs can be used, like Yagies.

.An old VHF TV ant. will covers FM, but a new DTV ant. may not.

What are you trying to do?Bring in one station, LD DXing, or work the local FM band?Each uses a different Antenna design...



...KB1FBJ



REF: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_broadcast_television_frequencies> --- On Sun, 7/10/11, Mike Friend antennagarden@...> wrote:



From: Mike Friend antennagarden@...>

Subject: [TV_Antennas] FM reception

To: "TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com" TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 8:05 PM



.



Hello,



I'm a hobbyist.



1. In most situations, will a dedicated FM antenna perform better than.TV antenna??



2. I have the.Channel Master 4228. previous generation which is considered a UHF antenna, but it will still pickup channels 7-13. Can it pickup FM



... signals worth trying??



3. Do you have other brands & model #s to recommend??



.



I also have a Centronics VHF/UHF/FM TV antenna about 180 inch's long..A Winegard produced brand for.a aftermarket company). One of the plastic tabs broke within.6 months.Then second tab.broke about 3 years later.



What about a Channel Master 3671, or Winegard 8200?



.



I want to.connect.an antenna to my.radio stereo receiver; in the country. Reception is a serious challege.



.



Antennaweb.org states:." There are no stations predicted to serve this location ".



According to Antennaweb.org I have to put the antenna up 226 feet high to get my first tv station.



.



A. Some FM antennas I'm looking at Winegard HD 6055P (82")



B. Antennacraft FM6 70" FM antenna.



C. Magnum Dynalab MD-10 ( "142") = ($350.00? out of my price range).



D. try to find a discontinued. .APS-13 ( 200"). = ($ 250.00?. probably out of my price range) or.



E. a discontinued Winegard HD 6065P (127") about $100.00?



Thank you



Mike



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#383 Jul 11, 2011

Mike,

You might want to drive around and see if others have outdoor

antennas,and which way they point them.You may need to aim the

antenna toward an opening in the valley,or toward a large metal

structure above the valley's rim.That may give you some reflections from the stations you want to hear.It may be a longshot,but you'll

just have to try it and see.

Hope this helps...

David





--- In TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com, Mike I ate lead paint antennahelp@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks for the great info.

> I..understand..a little about DXing TV & AM radio stations reception; but I never thought about the concept of FM DXing.

> In my..vacation home (about 800 feet in the bottom of valley) I'm trying to..receive..daytime FM stations..ranging about 20 to 100 miles away...

> "What are you trying to do?Bring in one station, LD DXing, or work the local FM band?Each uses a different Antenna design..."

> Sorry, I'm too new to this, to understand the concept of your question.

> Only if its practical, please explain a little more of your question.

> Thank you

> Mike..

>

> From: Donald Doughty dondoughty@...>

> To: TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:02 PM

> Subject: Re: [TV_Antennas] FM reception

>

>

> ..

>

> Mike,

> Most TV VHF Antenna designs are LPDAs.So most of the time 3 sets of..elements..active for each channel.

> Take a look at the Spectrum..assignments, (see ref).VHF-TV-Low [2-6] (54-88),..FM (88-108),..VHF-TV-High [7-13] (174-216),..UHF-TV[14-51](470-698) MHz.

> Note the old VHF TV bands covered ~4-octaves, where DTV VHF is now ~1/8-octaves,FM is just over ~1/2-octaves, and DTV UHF is ~2/3-octaves.This means other TV..Antenna designs can be used, like Yagies.

> ..An old VHF TV ant. will covers FM, but a new DTV ant. may not.

> What are you trying to do?Bring in one station, LD DXing, or work the local FM band?Each uses a different Antenna design...

>

> ...KB1FBJ

>

> REF: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_broadcast_television_frequencies>

> --- On Sun, 7/10/11, Mike Friend antennagarden@...> wrote:

>

> From: Mike Friend antennagarden@...>

> Subject: [TV_Antennas] FM reception

> To: "TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com" TV_Antennas@yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 8:05 PM

>

> ..

>

> Hello,

>

> I'm a hobbyist.

>

> 1. In most situations, will a dedicated FM antenna perform better than..TV antenna??

>

> 2. I have the..Channel Master 4228.. previous generation which is considered a UHF antenna, but it will still pickup channels 7-13. Can it pickup FM

>

> ...... signals worth trying??

>

> 3. Do you have other brands & model #s to recommend??

>

> ..

>

> I also have a Centronics VHF/UHF/FM TV antenna about 180 inch's long...A Winegard produced brand for..a aftermarket company). One of the plastic tabs broke within..6 months.Then second tab..broke about 3 years later.

>

> What about a Channel Master 3671, or Winegard 8200?

>

> ..

>

> I want to..connect..an antenna to my..radio stereo receiver; in the country. Reception is a serious challege.

>

> ..

>

> Antennaweb.org states:.." There are no stations predicted to serve this location ".

>

> According to Antennaweb.org I have to put the antenna up 226 feet high to get my first tv station.

>

> ..

>

> A. Some FM antennas I'm looking at Winegard HD 6055P (82")

>

> B. Antennacraft FM6 70" FM antenna.

>

> C. Magnum Dynalab MD-10 ( "142") = ($350.00? out of my price range)..

>

> D. try to find a discontinued.. ..APS-13 ( 200").. = ($ 250.00?.. probably out of my price range) or..

>

> E. a discontinued Winegard HD 6065P (127") about $100.00?

>

> Thank you

>

> Mike

>

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>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

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