Re: 2005-2007 TSP Returns


Feb 2, 2008

 


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#8104 Feb 2, 2008

Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007 returns.(Thrift trading and TSP Advisory)�� As a result, we don't have allthe multiyear returns finalized.�� However, so far, TSP Strategynow leads in the 2 and 3 year categories.Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005 - 2007

1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%2. TSP Key 41.8%3. TSP Report 36.4%4. TSP Wealth 27.8%5. TSP Max 23.4%6. TSP Pilot 22.4%7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

TSP Strategy 59.9%

Thrift TradingTSP Advisory

---------------

Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%2. TSP Report 27.5%3. TSP Key 22.2%4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)5. TSP Pilot 15.3%6. TSP Advisor 13.5%7. TSP Max 9.8%8. TSP Wealth 9.1% 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

TSP Strategy 40.7%

TSP AdvisoryThrift Trading

---------------2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3% 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%3. TSP Advisor 7.7%4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%6. TSP Pilot 4.2%7. TSP Report 2.1%8. TSP Wire 0.2%9. TSP Wealth -2.0%10. TSP Key -5%11. TSP Max -5.3%12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)13. TSP Talk -7.5%14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

TSP Strategy 11.4%

Thrift TradingTSP Advisory



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#8110 Feb 2, 2008

Sarah,



Thrift trading claims 9.32% through 12-27 on their web site.

At that time, their recommended position was 20% C,

60% S, 20% I which if held through 12-31 would mean

that their final 2007 performance is a bit below 9.32%.



Pat

--- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@...> wrote:

>

> Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007 returns. (Thrift

> trading and TSP Advisory) As a result, we don't have all the multiyear

> returns finalized. However, so far, TSP Strategy now leads in the 2 and

> 3 year categories.

> Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005 - 2007

>

> 1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%

> 2. TSP Key 41.8%

> 3. TSP Report 36.4%

> 4. TSP Wealth 27.8%

> 5. TSP Max 23.4%

> 6. TSP Pilot 22.4%

> 7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

>

> TSP Strategy 59.9%

>

> Thrift Trading

> TSP Advisory

>

---------------

>

> Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

>

> 1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%

> 2. TSP Report 27.5%

> 3. TSP Key 22.2%

> 4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)

> 5. TSP Pilot 15.3%

> 6. TSP Advisor 13.5%

> 7. TSP Max 9.8%

> 8. TSP Wealth 9.1%

> 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

>

> TSP Strategy 40.7%

>

> TSP Advisory

> Thrift Trading

---------------

> 2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

>

> 1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3%

> 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%

> 3. TSP Advisor 7.7%

> 4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%

> 5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%

> 6. TSP Pilot 4.2%

> 7. TSP Report 2.1%

> 8. TSP Wire 0.2%

> 9. TSP Wealth -2.0%

> 10. TSP Key -5%

> 11. TSP Max -5.3%

> 12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)

> 13. TSP Talk -7.5%

> 14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

>

> TSP Strategy 11.4%

>

> Thrift Trading

> TSP Advisory

>



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#8112 Feb 2, 2008

The question is, did they keep that position?



--- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@...>

wrote: >

> Sarah,

>

> Thrift trading claims 9.32% through 12-27 on their web site.

> At that time, their recommended position was 20% C,

> 60% S, 20% I which if held through 12-31 would mean

> that their final 2007 performance is a bit below 9.32%.

>

> Pat

>

> --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> >

> > Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007 returns.

(Thrift > > trading and TSP Advisory) As a result, we don't have all the

multiyear > > returns finalized. However, so far, TSP Strategy now leads in the 2

and > > 3 year categories.

> > Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005 - 2007

> >

> > 1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%

> > 2. TSP Key 41.8%

> > 3. TSP Report 36.4%

> > 4. TSP Wealth 27.8%

> > 5. TSP Max 23.4%

> > 6. TSP Pilot 22.4%

> > 7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

> >

> > TSP Strategy 59.9%

> >

> > Thrift Trading

> > TSP Advisory

> >

---------------

> >

> > Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> >

> > 1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%

> > 2. TSP Report 27.5%

> > 3. TSP Key 22.2%

> > 4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)

> > 5. TSP Pilot 15.3%

> > 6. TSP Advisor 13.5%

> > 7. TSP Max 9.8%

> > 8. TSP Wealth 9.1%

> > 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

> >

> > TSP Strategy 40.7%

> >

> > TSP Advisory

> > Thrift Trading

---------------

> > 2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> >

> > 1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3%

> > 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%

> > 3. TSP Advisor 7.7%

> > 4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%

> > 5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%

> > 6. TSP Pilot 4.2%

> > 7. TSP Report 2.1%

> > 8. TSP Wire 0.2%

> > 9. TSP Wealth -2.0%

> > 10. TSP Key -5%

> > 11. TSP Max -5.3%

> > 12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)

> > 13. TSP Talk -7.5%

> > 14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

> >

> > TSP Strategy 11.4%

> >

> > Thrift Trading

> > TSP Advisory

> >

>







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#8133 Feb 3, 2008

Yes they did.



"Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on the Our

Returns page."



I recall that stocks were down a bit the last days of 2007 so their

overall 2007 performance should be ~7-8%.





--- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@...> wrote:

>

> The question is, did they keep that position?

>

> --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Sarah,

> >

> > Thrift trading claims 9.32% through 12-27 on their web site.

> > At that time, their recommended position was 20% C,

> > 60% S, 20% I which if held through 12-31 would mean

> > that their final 2007 performance is a bit below 9.32%.

> >

> > Pat

> >

> > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007 returns.

> (Thrift

> > > trading and TSP Advisory) As a result, we don't have all the

> multiyear

> > > returns finalized. However, so far, TSP Strategy now leads in the 2

> and

> > > 3 year categories.

> > > Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005 - 2007

> > >

> > > 1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%

> > > 2. TSP Key 41.8%

> > > 3. TSP Report 36.4%

> > > 4. TSP Wealth 27.8%

> > > 5. TSP Max 23.4%

> > > 6. TSP Pilot 22.4%

> > > 7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

> > >

> > > TSP Strategy 59.9%

> > >

> > > Thrift Trading

> > > TSP Advisory

> > >

---------------

> > >

> > > Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > >

> > > 1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%

> > > 2. TSP Report 27.5%

> > > 3. TSP Key 22.2%

> > > 4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)

> > > 5. TSP Pilot 15.3%

> > > 6. TSP Advisor 13.5%

> > > 7. TSP Max 9.8%

> > > 8. TSP Wealth 9.1%

> > > 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

> > >

> > > TSP Strategy 40.7%

> > >

> > > TSP Advisory

> > > Thrift Trading

---------------

> > > 2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > >

> > > 1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3%

> > > 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%

> > > 3. TSP Advisor 7.7%

> > > 4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%

> > > 5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%

> > > 6. TSP Pilot 4.2%

> > > 7. TSP Report 2.1%

> > > 8. TSP Wire 0.2%

> > > 9. TSP Wealth -2.0%

> > > 10. TSP Key -5%

> > > 11. TSP Max -5.3%

> > > 12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)

> > > 13. TSP Talk -7.5%

> > > 14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

> > >

> > > TSP Strategy 11.4%

> > >

> > > Thrift Trading

> > > TSP Advisory

> > >

> >

>



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#8135 Feb 3, 2008

The quote: "Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on

the Our Returns page." is directly from thrift trading. Its not

from me. I don't know what, if any, changes have been made since then,

but the last trade for 2007 would have kept them at the position

through 12-31-2007.

--- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@...> wrote:

>

> Where does it say that? Have they made any trades since?

>

> --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Yes they did.

> >

> > "Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on the Our

> > Returns page."

> >

> > I recall that stocks were down a bit the last days of 2007 so their

> > overall 2007 performance should be ~7-8%.

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > >

> > > The question is, did they keep that position?

> > >

> > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sarah,

> > > >

> > > > Thrift trading claims 9.32% through 12-27 on their web site.

> > > > At that time, their recommended position was 20% C,

> > > > 60% S, 20% I which if held through 12-31 would mean

> > > > that their final 2007 performance is a bit below 9.32%.

> > > >

> > > > Pat

> > > >

> > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007 returns.

> > > (Thrift

> > > > > trading and TSP Advisory) As a result, we don't have all the

> > > multiyear

> > > > > returns finalized. However, so far, TSP Strategy now leads in

> the 2

> > > and

> > > > > 3 year categories.

> > > > > Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005 - 2007

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%

> > > > > 2. TSP Key 41.8%

> > > > > 3. TSP Report 36.4%

> > > > > 4. TSP Wealth 27.8%

> > > > > 5. TSP Max 23.4%

> > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 22.4%

> > > > > 7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

> > > > >

> > > > > TSP Strategy 59.9%

> > > > >

> > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > >

> > > > >

---------------

> > > > >

> > > > > Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%

> > > > > 2. TSP Report 27.5%

> > > > > 3. TSP Key 22.2%

> > > > > 4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)

> > > > > 5. TSP Pilot 15.3%

> > > > > 6. TSP Advisor 13.5%

> > > > > 7. TSP Max 9.8%

> > > > > 8. TSP Wealth 9.1%

> > > > > 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

> > > > >

> > > > > TSP Strategy 40.7%

> > > > >

> > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > Thrift Trading

---------------

> > > > > 2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3%

> > > > > 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%

> > > > > 3. TSP Advisor 7.7%

> > > > > 4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%

> > > > > 5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%

> > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 4.2%

> > > > > 7. TSP Report 2.1%

> > > > > 8. TSP Wire 0.2%

> > > > > 9. TSP Wealth -2.0%

> > > > > 10. TSP Key -5%

> > > > > 11. TSP Max -5.3%

> > > > > 12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)

> > > > > 13. TSP Talk -7.5%

> > > > > 14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

> > > > >

> > > > > TSP Strategy 11.4%

> > > > >

> > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>







----------------------------

#8136 Feb 3, 2008

One more thing. I emailed thrift trading and asked them what their

final 2007 performance was so the quote was in their reply.

--- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@...> wrote:

>

> Where does it say that? Have they made any trades since?

>

> --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Yes they did.

> >

> > "Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on the Our

> > Returns page."

> >

> > I recall that stocks were down a bit the last days of 2007 so their

> > overall 2007 performance should be ~7-8%.

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > >

> > > The question is, did they keep that position?

> > >

> > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sarah,

> > > >

> > > > Thrift trading claims 9.32% through 12-27 on their web site.

> > > > At that time, their recommended position was 20% C,

> > > > 60% S, 20% I which if held through 12-31 would mean

> > > > that their final 2007 performance is a bit below 9.32%.

> > > >

> > > > Pat

> > > >

> > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007 returns.

> > > (Thrift

> > > > > trading and TSP Advisory) As a result, we don't have all the

> > > multiyear

> > > > > returns finalized. However, so far, TSP Strategy now leads in

> the 2

> > > and

> > > > > 3 year categories.

> > > > > Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005 - 2007

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%

> > > > > 2. TSP Key 41.8%

> > > > > 3. TSP Report 36.4%

> > > > > 4. TSP Wealth 27.8%

> > > > > 5. TSP Max 23.4%

> > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 22.4%

> > > > > 7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

> > > > >

> > > > > TSP Strategy 59.9%

> > > > >

> > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > >

> > > > >

---------------

> > > > >

> > > > > Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%

> > > > > 2. TSP Report 27.5%

> > > > > 3. TSP Key 22.2%

> > > > > 4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)

> > > > > 5. TSP Pilot 15.3%

> > > > > 6. TSP Advisor 13.5%

> > > > > 7. TSP Max 9.8%

> > > > > 8. TSP Wealth 9.1%

> > > > > 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

> > > > >

> > > > > TSP Strategy 40.7%

> > > > >

> > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > Thrift Trading

---------------

> > > > > 2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3%

> > > > > 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%

> > > > > 3. TSP Advisor 7.7%

> > > > > 4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%

> > > > > 5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%

> > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 4.2%

> > > > > 7. TSP Report 2.1%

> > > > > 8. TSP Wire 0.2%

> > > > > 9. TSP Wealth -2.0%

> > > > > 10. TSP Key -5%

> > > > > 11. TSP Max -5.3%

> > > > > 12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)

> > > > > 13. TSP Talk -7.5%

> > > > > 14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

> > > > >

> > > > > TSP Strategy 11.4%

> > > > >

> > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>



----------------------------

#8137 Feb 3, 2008

Thanks. I'll add it then.



--- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@...>

wrote: >

> One more thing. I emailed thrift trading and asked them what their

> final 2007 performance was so the quote was in their reply.

>

> --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> >

> > Where does it say that? Have they made any trades since?

> >

> > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes they did.

> > >

> > > "Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on the Our

> > > Returns page."

> > >

> > > I recall that stocks were down a bit the last days of 2007 so

their > > > overall 2007 performance should be ~7-8%.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > The question is, did they keep that position?

> > > >

> > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sarah,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thrift trading claims 9.32% through 12-27 on their web

site. > > > > > At that time, their recommended position was 20% C,

> > > > > 60% S, 20% I which if held through 12-31 would mean

> > > > > that their final 2007 performance is a bit below 9.32%.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pat

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007

returns. > > > > (Thrift

> > > > > > trading and TSP Advisory) As a result, we don't have all

the > > > > multiyear

> > > > > > returns finalized. However, so far, TSP Strategy now leads

in > > the 2

> > > > and

> > > > > > 3 year categories.

> > > > > > Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005 -

2007 > > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%

> > > > > > 2. TSP Key 41.8%

> > > > > > 3. TSP Report 36.4%

> > > > > > 4. TSP Wealth 27.8%

> > > > > > 5. TSP Max 23.4%

> > > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 22.4%

> > > > > > 7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TSP Strategy 59.9%

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

---------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%

> > > > > > 2. TSP Report 27.5%

> > > > > > 3. TSP Key 22.2%

> > > > > > 4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)

> > > > > > 5. TSP Pilot 15.3%

> > > > > > 6. TSP Advisor 13.5%

> > > > > > 7. TSP Max 9.8%

> > > > > > 8. TSP Wealth 9.1%

> > > > > > 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TSP Strategy 40.7%

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > > Thrift Trading

---------------

> > > > > > 2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3%

> > > > > > 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%

> > > > > > 3. TSP Advisor 7.7%

> > > > > > 4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%

> > > > > > 5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%

> > > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 4.2%

> > > > > > 7. TSP Report 2.1%

> > > > > > 8. TSP Wire 0.2%

> > > > > > 9. TSP Wealth -2.0%

> > > > > > 10. TSP Key -5%

> > > > > > 11. TSP Max -5.3%

> > > > > > 12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)

> > > > > > 13. TSP Talk -7.5%

> > > > > > 14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TSP Strategy 11.4%

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>







----------------------------

#8138 Feb 3, 2008

Having checked the www.thrifttrading.com webpage it appears clear to me

that one could not follow their methodology without violating the new TSP

trading requirements, limited to two trades per month. I am not sure but

suspect the same problem exists with most of the OTHER (other than TSP

Strategy) TSP services. One can hope that the TSP Board gets rapped by

oversight starting with the U.S. Congress but that likelihood seems pretty

remote.



Stan



--- neutrino06 neutrino06@...> wrote:

> The quote: "Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on

> the Our Returns page." is directly from thrift trading. Its not

> from me. I don't know what, if any, changes have been made since then,

> but the last trade for 2007 would have kept them at the position

> through 12-31-2007.

>

> --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@...> wrote:

> >

> > Where does it say that? Have they made any trades since?

> >

> > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes they did.

> > >

> > > "Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on the Our

> > > Returns page."

> > >

> > > I recall that stocks were down a bit the last days of 2007 so their

> > > overall 2007 performance should be ~7-8%.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > The question is, did they keep that position?

> > > >

> > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sarah,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thrift trading claims 9.32% through 12-27 on their web

> site.

> > > > > At that time, their recommended position was 20% C,

> > > > > 60% S, 20% I which if held through 12-31 would mean

> > > > > that their final 2007 performance is a bit below 9.32%.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pat

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007

> returns.

> > > > (Thrift

> > > > > > trading and TSP Advisory) As a result, we don't have all the

> > > > multiyear

> > > > > > returns finalized. However, so far, TSP Strategy now leads in

> > the 2

> > > > and

> > > > > > 3 year categories.

> > > > > > Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005 -

> 2007

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%

> > > > > > 2. TSP Key 41.8%

> > > > > > 3. TSP Report 36.4%

> > > > > > 4. TSP Wealth 27.8%

> > > > > > 5. TSP Max 23.4%

> > > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 22.4%

> > > > > > 7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TSP Strategy 59.9%

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

---------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%

> > > > > > 2. TSP Report 27.5%

> > > > > > 3. TSP Key 22.2%

> > > > > > 4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)

> > > > > > 5. TSP Pilot 15.3%

> > > > > > 6. TSP Advisor 13.5%

> > > > > > 7. TSP Max 9.8%

> > > > > > 8. TSP Wealth 9.1%

> > > > > > 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TSP Strategy 40.7%

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > > Thrift Trading

---------------

> > > > > > 2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3%

> > > > > > 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%

> > > > > > 3. TSP Advisor 7.7%

> > > > > > 4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%

> > > > > > 5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%

> > > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 4.2%

> > > > > > 7. TSP Report 2.1%

> > > > > > 8. TSP Wire 0.2%

> > > > > > 9. TSP Wealth -2.0%

> > > > > > 10. TSP Key -5%

> > > > > > 11. TSP Max -5.3%

> > > > > > 12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)

> > > > > > 13. TSP Talk -7.5%

> > > > > > 14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TSP Strategy 11.4%

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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#8139 Feb 3, 2008

Most have already discussed how they will conform to the new rules on

their websites.



When you consider the alternative, what else would they do?



Remember that the March of Dimes was created to eradicate polio. Well,

when polio was eradicated, did they go out of business?



--- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, Stanley Way stan_way@...> wrote:

>

> Having checked the www.thrifttrading.com webpage it appears clear to

me

> that one could not follow their methodology without violating the new

TSP

> trading requirements, limited to two trades per month. I am not sure

but

> suspect the same problem exists with most of the OTHER (other than TSP

> Strategy) TSP services. One can hope that the TSP Board gets rapped

by

> oversight starting with the U.S. Congress but that likelihood seems

pretty

> remote.

>

> Stan

>

> --- neutrino06 neutrino06@... wrote:

>

> > The quote: "Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on

> > the Our Returns page." is directly from thrift trading. Its not

> > from me. I don't know what, if any, changes have been made since

then,

> > but the last trade for 2007 would have kept them at the position

> > through 12-31-2007.

> >

> > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Where does it say that? Have they made any trades since?

> > >

> > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Yes they did.

> > > >

> > > > "Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on the

Our

> > > > Returns page."

> > > >

> > > > I recall that stocks were down a bit the last days of 2007 so

their

> > > > overall 2007 performance should be ~7-8%.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > The question is, did they keep that position?

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06"

neutrino06@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sarah,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thrift trading claims 9.32% through 12-27 on their web

> > site.

> > > > > > At that time, their recommended position was 20% C,

> > > > > > 60% S, 20% I which if held through 12-31 would mean

> > > > > > that their final 2007 performance is a bit below 9.32%.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pat

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007

> > returns.

> > > > > (Thrift

> > > > > > > trading and TSP Advisory) As a result, we don't have all

the

> > > > > multiyear

> > > > > > > returns finalized. However, so far, TSP Strategy now

leads in

> > > the 2

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > 3 year categories.

> > > > > > > Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005

-

> > 2007

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%

> > > > > > > 2. TSP Key 41.8%

> > > > > > > 3. TSP Report 36.4%

> > > > > > > 4. TSP Wealth 27.8%

> > > > > > > 5. TSP Max 23.4%

> > > > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 22.4%

> > > > > > > 7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TSP Strategy 59.9%

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

---------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%

> > > > > > > 2. TSP Report 27.5%

> > > > > > > 3. TSP Key 22.2%

> > > > > > > 4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)

> > > > > > > 5. TSP Pilot 15.3%

> > > > > > > 6. TSP Advisor 13.5%

> > > > > > > 7. TSP Max 9.8%

> > > > > > > 8. TSP Wealth 9.1%

> > > > > > > 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TSP Strategy 40.7%

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > > > Thrift Trading

---------------

> > > > > > > 2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3%

> > > > > > > 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%

> > > > > > > 3. TSP Advisor 7.7%

> > > > > > > 4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%

> > > > > > > 5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%

> > > > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 4.2%

> > > > > > > 7. TSP Report 2.1%

> > > > > > > 8. TSP Wire 0.2%

> > > > > > > 9. TSP Wealth -2.0%

> > > > > > > 10. TSP Key -5%

> > > > > > > 11. TSP Max -5.3%

> > > > > > > 12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)

> > > > > > > 13. TSP Talk -7.5%

> > > > > > > 14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TSP Strategy 11.4%

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Neither the TSP Strategy group, nor individual members, are licensed

or

> > authorized to provide investment advice. Any statements made herein

> > merely reflect the personal opinions of the individual group member.

> > Please make your own investment decisions based upon your personal

> > circumstances.

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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> Rockville, Maryland

> Stan_Way@...

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>

>

>

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#8140 Feb 3, 2008

8.98%

--- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks. I'll add it then.

>

> --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@

> wrote:

> >

> > One more thing. I emailed thrift trading and asked them what their

> > final 2007 performance was so the quote was in their reply.

> >

> > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Where does it say that? Have they made any trades since?

> > >

> > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Yes they did.

> > > >

> > > > "Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on the

Our

> > > > Returns page."

> > > >

> > > > I recall that stocks were down a bit the last days of 2007 so

> their

> > > > overall 2007 performance should be ~7-8%.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > The question is, did they keep that position?

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06"

neutrino06@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sarah,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thrift trading claims 9.32% through 12-27 on their web

> site.

> > > > > > At that time, their recommended position was 20% C,

> > > > > > 60% S, 20% I which if held through 12-31 would mean

> > > > > > that their final 2007 performance is a bit below 9.32%.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pat

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007

> returns.

> > > > > (Thrift

> > > > > > > trading and TSP Advisory) As a result, we don't have all

> the

> > > > > multiyear

> > > > > > > returns finalized. However, so far, TSP Strategy now

leads

> in

> > > the 2

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > 3 year categories.

> > > > > > > Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005

-

> 2007

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%

> > > > > > > 2. TSP Key 41.8%

> > > > > > > 3. TSP Report 36.4%

> > > > > > > 4. TSP Wealth 27.8%

> > > > > > > 5. TSP Max 23.4%

> > > > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 22.4%

> > > > > > > 7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TSP Strategy 59.9%

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

---------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%

> > > > > > > 2. TSP Report 27.5%

> > > > > > > 3. TSP Key 22.2%

> > > > > > > 4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)

> > > > > > > 5. TSP Pilot 15.3%

> > > > > > > 6. TSP Advisor 13.5%

> > > > > > > 7. TSP Max 9.8%

> > > > > > > 8. TSP Wealth 9.1%

> > > > > > > 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TSP Strategy 40.7%

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > > > Thrift Trading

---------------

> > > > > > > 2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3%

> > > > > > > 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%

> > > > > > > 3. TSP Advisor 7.7%

> > > > > > > 4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%

> > > > > > > 5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%

> > > > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 4.2%

> > > > > > > 7. TSP Report 2.1%

> > > > > > > 8. TSP Wire 0.2%

> > > > > > > 9. TSP Wealth -2.0%

> > > > > > > 10. TSP Key -5%

> > > > > > > 11. TSP Max -5.3%

> > > > > > > 12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)

> > > > > > > 13. TSP Talk -7.5%

> > > > > > > 14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TSP Strategy 11.4%

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thrift Trading

> > > > > > > TSP Advisory

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>



----------------------------

#8141 Feb 3, 2008

Anyone have TSP Advisory's 2007 performance?

Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005 - 2007

1. Thrift Trading 53.9%2. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%3. TSP Key 41.8%4. TSP Report 36.4%5. TSP Wealth 27.8%6. TSP Max 23.4%7. TSP Pilot 22.4%8. TSP Talk -(0.5)%

TSP Strategy 59.9%

---------------

Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%2. Thrift Trading 26.3%3. TSP Report 27.5%4. TSP Key 22.2%5. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)6. TSP Pilot 15.3%7. TSP Advisor 13.5%8. TSP Max 9.8%9. TSP Wealth 9.1% 10. TSP Talk -(0.9)%

TSP Strategy 40.7%

---------------

2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance

1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3% 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%3. Thrift Trading 9.0%4. TSP Advisor 7.7%5. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%6. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%7. TSP Pilot 4.2%8. TSP Report 2.1%9. TSP Wire 0.2%10. TSP Wealth -2.0%11. TSP Key -5%12. TSP Max -5.3%13. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)14. TSP Talk -7.5%15. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)

TSP Strategy 11.4%



--- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@...> wrote:>> 8.98%> > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:> >> > Thanks. I'll add it then.> >> > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@> > wrote:> > >> > > One more thing. I emailed thrift trading and asked them what their> > > final 2007 performance was so the quote was in their reply.> > >> > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Where does it say that? Have they made any trades since?> > > >> > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06" neutrino06@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Yes they did.> > > > >> > > > > "Our last trade for 2007 was shown on the 27th of Dec. on the> Our> > > > > Returns page."> > > > >> > > > > I recall that stocks were down a bit the last days of 2007 so> > their> > > > > overall 2007 performance should be ~7-8%.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > The question is, did they keep that position?> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "neutrino06"> neutrino06@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sarah,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thrift trading claims 9.32% through 12-27 on their web> > site.> > > > > > > At that time, their recommended position was 20% C,> > > > > > > 60% S, 20% I which if held through 12-31 would mean> > > > > > > that their final 2007 performance is a bit below 9.32%.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Pat> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In TSP_Strategy@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" sarah_oz@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Some of the services STILL have not reported their 2007> > returns.> > > > > > (Thrift> > > > > > > > trading and TSP Advisory) As a result, we don't have all> > the> > > > > > multiyear> > > > > > > > returns finalized. However, so far, TSP Strategy now> leads> > in> > > > the 2> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > 3 year categories.> > > > > > > > Three Year - Total TSP Advisory Services Performance 2005> -> > 2007> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. TSP GO High Risk 46.3%> > > > > > > > 2. TSP Key 41.8%> > > > > > > > 3. TSP Report 36.4%> > > > > > > > 4. TSP Wealth 27.8%> > > > > > > > 5. TSP Max 23.4%> > > > > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 22.4%> > > > > > > > 7. TSP Talk -(0.5)%> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > TSP Strategy 59.9%> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thrift Trading> > > > > > > > TSP Advisory> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >---------------> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Two Year 2006-2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. TSP Go High Risk 29.3%> > > > > > > > 2. TSP Report 27.5%> > > > > > > > 3. TSP Key 22.2%> > > > > > > > 4. TSP Talk Shark 16.8% (from 2/1/06)> > > > > > > > 5. TSP Pilot 15.3%> > > > > > > > 6. TSP Advisor 13.5%> > > > > > > > 7. TSP Max 9.8%> > > > > > > > 8. TSP Wealth 9.1%> > > > > > > > 9. TSP Talk -(0.9)%> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > TSP Strategy 40.7%> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > TSP Advisory> > > > > > > > Thrift Trading---------------> > > > > > > > 2007 TSP Advisory Services Performance> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. Matt's TSP Blog 18.3%> > > > > > > > 2. TSP GO High Risk 11.6%> > > > > > > > 3. TSP Advisor 7.7%> > > > > > > > 4. TSP Talk Fred 5.7%> > > > > > > > 5. TSP Talk Shark 5.3%> > > > > > > > 6. TSP Pilot 4.2%> > > > > > > > 7. TSP Report 2.1%> > > > > > > > 8. TSP Wire 0.2%> > > > > > > > 9. TSP Wealth -2.0%> > > > > > > > 10. TSP Key -5%> > > > > > > > 11. TSP Max -5.3%> > > > > > > > 12. TSP Talk Ebbchart -5.8% (from 10/1)> > > > > > > > 13. TSP Talk -7.5%> > > > > > > > 14. Maximizing TSP -12.2% (From 6/24)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > TSP Strategy 11.4%> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thrift Trading> > > > > > > > TSP Advisory> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>







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