RE: [multipsk] OT (Technical TCP/IP questions)


May 12, 2005

 


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#326 May 12, 2005

Hello to all,



I have done some tests in Olivia modes between 2 XP computers, one with a good sound card and the other with a bad sound card (shift: 1.1 % at Sf (Sampling frequency)=8000 samples/sec and 0.7 % at 11025 samples/sec).



I tested first the default Olivia mode: 32 tones, BW=1000 Hz.

The criteria being a text transmitted without errors with an Olivia signal generated without noise, I found that the tolerance on the sound card Sf shift was equal to 0,5 %. This value is low compared to the scale of actual sound card shifts (up to 1,1 % or more?) and must pose problems to a big fraction of modern sound card, if the exact Sf of the sound card is not known (the most probable case will be a curious bad quality when decoding good signals).  



The solution is to use a 16 tones as in MFSK16 (with the hypothesis of speed in bauds equal to the gap between tones) or less (8 for example).



So, with the Sf perfectly corrected, I tried the 16 tones mode and I noted that I had a lot of errors. Then I try 8 tones, 4 tones, 256 tones, BW=2000 Hz, 500 Hz, in all cases I had more or less errors (with a pure Olivia signal). And there, I have no logic answer to this.



Question to Olivia users: do you meet that sort of problem on no-default speeds? Do you have ideas of the cause?

TKS for answers



73

Patrick



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#334 May 21, 2005

Hello Patrick



Yes I had similair occurences on narrower BW and lesser tones. But asOlivia is and was designed as a mode still functioning at very lowsignal strenghts in heavy noise and qrm and at the downgoing sunspotactivity, and so far, nobody paid much intention on other speeds andtones. Certainly test where carried out and some good ones too even bya countrymen of yours. But again the mode so far I have seen, is mostlyused on lowlevel signals on dx and also point to point under pactor IIIor other qrm and it was always possible to get a 100% print. Sotherefore its is a very bebeficial mode, yes low in speed but a gooderror free copy and I think so far it was the best mode I have workedunder the above described conditions.



Chris HB9BDM



F6CTE@... schrieb:Hello to all,



I have done some tests in Olivia modes between 2 XP computers, one witha good sound card and the other with a bad sound card (shift: 1.1 % atSf (Sampling frequency)=8000 samples/sec and 0.7 % at 11025samples/sec).



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#335 May 21, 2005

Hello Chris,



RR for all and TKS for information.

You confirm me to restrict my attention to the default mode of Olivia (32 carriers). I'm sure that an MFSK with 16 carriers would be more universal for our unprecise sound cards but...



73

Patrick



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#336 May 21, 2005

Hi Patrick



Yes, I agree but as you say Pawel intended the mode as I stated in mymail. I made lots of test here with two different station via HFdummyload antennas and different computers. The results have been allthe same Olivia rated always best when on default mode 32/1000/16, butalso test shown with VK2 stations that Olivia 8/250 worked well, andhad about the same rating as your PSK_FEC, but seemed a bit morerobust. But its always hard to tell.

Anyway my own ranking ist when I am in a qso with a station who hassimilair programs as me: PSK31,  PSK_FEC, MT63, MFSK16 and as bestOLIVIA 32/1000. That is the rating when we wanted to keep a link goingtill it faded out. I had lots of very good DX Qso's to ZL and VK withnot even hearing the stations anymore, but keeping on printing.

    Now a other problem. I am also running Linux Suse 9.3 running hereand have many good programs running either direct or on crossoverprogram. I wanted to install Multipsk to Linux as well. But failed. AsI need a program which does as Mixw a de entpacking installation from

a .EXE file. But your installation of multipsk is a .ZIP unpacking fileso how about creating a .EXE file which would allow me to try it out.

Or do you know somebody who has installed Multipsk on Linux ?



Chris HB9BDM







F6CTE@... schrieb:Hello Chris,



RR for all and TKS for information.

You confirm me to restrict my attention to the default mode of Olivia(32 carriers). I'm sure that an MFSK with 16 carriers would be moreuniversal for our unprecise sound cards but...



73

Patrick



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#337 May 22, 2005

Hello Chris,



Thanks for info about Olivia and the other modes. For my part, in general when I can't finish the QSO, I pass in PSK10. If the conditions are not too bad, it's pleasant to be able to have an ultimate possibility to finish the QSO.



About LINUX, I'm not sure to see your problem. You have an .EXE which is the MULTIPSK.EXE file.

But my program uses a lot of Windows API, so I don't see how it can be emulated under LINUX, but I don't know this system. I know that it exists a DELPHI way to produce LINUX files (under something called XILIX...or something like that), that's all for me.



I don't know Hams or SWL working Multipsk under LINUX...



73

Patrick



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#1087 Feb 27, 2006

I have been following MultiPSK for several years now. I used to

download a new version every now and then to see if it was getting

better. My main reason for avoiding the program up until now was the

graphical interface. I always thought it was a bit busy, cluttered

and hard to figure out. I had been used to the layout of MixW and

really liked the way Mix was arranged on the screen.



MixW is a nice program and has great features, but has gotten a bit

stale. The author(s) do not seem to be real interested in enhancing

the program as they once did.



So when I tried 3.13, for the first time, I liked the way it looked.

I don't know if it is the color or what, but it seemed I could finally

understand it and figure out how it worked - without reading the manual.



It's nice to see new modes added, really like the HF implementation of

APRS, and it seems to decode CW better than MixW and Mix does a pretty

good job if you know when to choose which setting.



So I went and registered MultiPSK this weekend and the author turned

around a program key to me in about an hour - thanks!



I do have a few comments and questions.



In CW, why is it when it is hard-keying the transmitter, you lose

control of the cursor? MixW does not have that issue, so it can't be

an operating system issue.



In APRS, is there a messaging function built-in that I can't find ;-)?



I have commander running and it is interfacing to the rig, but I

cannot get the logging function to pick-up the current frequency of

the rig? Am I doing something wrong?



Can I select a different font in Hellscheiber? If yes, how?



I have a 2.4Ghz system with 512MBs of memory and the hell display

seems really jerky, is that normal?



I do have to say that I like the video display capability in the

waterfall.



I am not sure I understand what the heck PAX, PAX2 and how it relates

to APRS. Can't seem to find anything on that.



I am also confused about how packet and digitalSSTV are related. From

what I have seen, the new DigitalSSTV systems are quite a bit

different from what I am seeing with MultiPSK.



Thanks and looking forward to meeting other MultiPSK users on the air.



Duffy

www.wb8nut.com







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#1091 Feb 27, 2006

Hello Duffy, RR for all.Surely the interface is a bit cluttered but I wantto have rapidly all under control because Ihave no much memory (I forget what are inside the menus and it is too long tomanage). >MixW is a nice program and has greatfeaturesThat's surely the reference... >APRS, and it seems to decode CW better thanMixW and Mix does a prettyI'm improvingat the moment the CW decoder considering that I can make profit of bigger PCthan P166 (reference for the actual CW decoder). >In CW, why is it when it is hard-keying the >transmitter, you lose>control of the cursor? MixW does not have that>issue, so it can't be an operating system issue.

I'll see this and I'll contact you if I can't see the problem on myPC. >In APRS, isthere a messaging function built-in that >I can't find ;-)?Yes,click on "Transmission" and fill the "Comment" field. >I have commander running and it is interfacingto >the rig, but I cannot get the logging function to >pick-up the currentfrequency The current frequency is directly in the "Freq" QSOfield when you are connected to Commander.For example, click on "14075 KHz USB Forward".14.075 must appear on the Freq field. >Can I select adifferent font in Hellscheiber?  If >yes, how?Only two:either "standard" (not bold) or "Bold" (button "Bold"). >I have a 2.4Ghzsystem with 512MBs of memory and the >hell display seems really jerky, isthat normal?In what Hell mode, have you a snapshot? (I have also a2,4 GHz, I'll compare). >I am not sure Iunderstand what the heck PAX, PAX2 >and how it relates to APRS.  Can'tseem to find >anything on that.You can send APRS position throughrepeaters in Pax/Pax2 as in Packet but with only one possibility of alias(ECHO), equivalent to the Packet "TRACE". Of course, you can send it all overthe world as it is a sensitive mode (derived from Olivia).See the presentation of Multipsk from my Web siteand the help (on PAX/PAX2 + APRS) for details. >I am alsoconfused about how packet and digitalSSTV >are related. From >what I

have seen, the new DigitalSSTV systems are >quite a bit >different from

what I am seeing with MultiPSK.I do my own DIGISSTV system with anoriginal compression format (I write a paper about it, look on my site). As itis not used at all, the best is to forget it, or to do experimentationsonly on skeds. 73Patrick     ----- Original Message -----From:BeischelTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:52PMSubject: [multipsk] New MultiPSK User -Comments and Questions

I havebeen following MultiPSK for several years now. I used todownload a newversion every now and then to see if it was gettingbetter.  My mainreason for avoiding the program up until now was thegraphicalinterface.  I always thought it was a bit busy, clutteredand hard tofigure out.  I had been used to the layout of MixW andreally likedthe way Mix was arranged on the screen.

MixW is a nice program and hasgreat features, but has gotten a bitstale. The author(s) do not seem to bereal interested in enhancingthe program as they once did.

So when Itried 3.13, for the first time, I liked the way it looked. I don't know ifit is the color or what, but it seemed I could finallyunderstand it andfigure out how it worked - without reading the manual.

It's nice to seenew modes added, really like the HF implementation ofAPRS, and it seems todecode CW better than MixW and Mix does a prettygood job if you know whento choose which setting.

So I went and registered MultiPSK this weekendand the author turnedaround a program key to me in about an hour -thanks!

I do have a few comments and questions.

In CW, why is itwhen it is hard-keying the transmitter, you losecontrol of the cursor?MixW does not have that issue, so it can't bean operating systemissue.

In APRS, is there a messaging function built-in that I can'tfind ;-)?

I have commander running and it is interfacing to the rig,but Icannot get the logging function to pick-up the current frequencyofthe rig? Am I doing something wrong?

Can I select a differentfont in Hellscheiber?  If yes, how?

I have a 2.4Ghz system with512MBs of memory and the hell displayseems really jerky, is thatnormal?

I do have to say that I like the video display capability inthewaterfall. 

I am not sure I understand what the heck PAX,PAX2 and how it relatesto APRS.  Can't seem to find anything onthat.

I am also confused about how packet and digitalSSTV are related.Fromwhat I have seen, the new DigitalSSTV systems are quite abitdifferent from what I am seeing with MultiPSK.

Thanks andlooking forward to meeting other MultiPSK users on theair.

Duffywww.wb8nut.com



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#1092 Feb 27, 2006

Patrick,



I hope you do not think that I was being critical. Actually I really

like what you have done with the program. The interface, while

understandably cluttered, looks much better now and the colors make it

look much better than before.



The "jerkiness" is on all Hell modes. The paper tape display does not

seem to run smoothly. It works o.k., please don't misunderstand the

comment, just wondering if it is my PC or if that is the nature of the

MultiPSK Hell implementation.



For APRS messaging, you may have misunderstood. Is there a way for me

to send a message to a specific APRS station. For example, I want to

send a message to only WB8ZCC like "Russ, want to operate 20 meters

tonight?"



As for the CW decode, it works great now - best I have seen and I try

them all. If you can improve, wow can you actually make it better?



Yes, on the CW, if you could fix the problem with losing cursor

control during send, that would be nice. The cursor completely

disappears everytime MultiPSK keys the transmitter and it comes back

whenever the transmitter is not keyed like between the dits and dahs.



Really a nice program and my complements on your work and dedication

to the project.



Duffy

www.wb8nut.com



--- In multipsk@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Lindecker" f6cte@...> wrote:

>

> Hello Duffy,

>

> RR for all.

> Surely the interface is a bit cluttered but I want to have rapidly

all under control because I have no much memory (I forget what are

inside the menus and it is too long to manage).

>

> >MixW is a nice program and has great features

> That's surely the reference...

>

> >APRS, and it seems to decode CW better than MixW and Mix does a pretty

> I'm improving at the moment the CW decoder considering that I can

make profit of bigger PC than P166 (reference for the actual CW decoder).

>

> >In CW, why is it when it is hard-keying the >transmitter, you lose

> >control of the cursor? MixW does not have that >issue, so it can't

be an operating system issue.

> I'll see this and I'll contact you if I can't see the problem on my PC.

>

> >In APRS, is there a messaging function built-in that >I can't find ;-)?

> Yes, click on "Transmission" and fill the "Comment" field.

>

> >I have commander running and it is interfacing to >the rig, but I

cannot get the logging function to >pick-up the current frequency

> The current frequency is directly in the "Freq" QSO field when you

are connected to Commander.

> For example, click on "14075 KHz USB Forward". 14.075 must appear on

the Freq field.

>

> >Can I select a different font in Hellscheiber? If >yes, how?

> Only two: either "standard" (not bold) or "Bold" (button "Bold").

>

> >I have a 2.4Ghz system with 512MBs of memory and the >hell display

seems really jerky, is that normal?

> In what Hell mode, have you a snapshot? (I have also a 2,4 GHz, I'll

compare).

>

> >I am not sure I understand what the heck PAX, PAX2 >and how it

relates to APRS. Can't seem to find >anything on that.

> You can send APRS position through repeaters in Pax/Pax2 as in

Packet but with only one possibility of alias (ECHO), equivalent to

the Packet "TRACE". Of course, you can send it all over the world as

it is a sensitive mode (derived from Olivia).

> See the presentation of Multipsk from my Web site and the help (on

PAX/PAX2 + APRS) for details.

>

> >I am also confused about how packet and digitalSSTV >are related. From

> >what I have seen, the new DigitalSSTV systems are >quite a bit

> >different from what I am seeing with MultiPSK.

> I do my own DIGISSTV system with an original compression format (I

write a paper about it, look on my site). As it is not used at all,

the best is to forget it, or to do experimentations only on skeds.

>

> 73

> Patrick

>

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Beischel

> To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:52 PM

> Subject: [multipsk] New MultiPSK User - Comments and Questions

>

>

> I have been following MultiPSK for several years now. I used to

> download a new version every now and then to see if it was getting

> better. My main reason for avoiding the program up until now was the

> graphical interface. I always thought it was a bit busy, cluttered

> and hard to figure out. I had been used to the layout of MixW and

> really liked the way Mix was arranged on the screen.

>

> MixW is a nice program and has great features, but has gotten a bit

> stale. The author(s) do not seem to be real interested in enhancing

> the program as they once did.

>

> So when I tried 3.13, for the first time, I liked the way it looked.

> I don't know if it is the color or what, but it seemed I could finally

> understand it and figure out how it worked - without reading the

manual.

>

> It's nice to see new modes added, really like the HF implementation of

> APRS, and it seems to decode CW better than MixW and Mix does a pretty

> good job if you know when to choose which setting.

>

> So I went and registered MultiPSK this weekend and the author turned

> around a program key to me in about an hour - thanks!

>

> I do have a few comments and questions.

>

> In CW, why is it when it is hard-keying the transmitter, you lose

> control of the cursor? MixW does not have that issue, so it can't be

> an operating system issue.

>

> In APRS, is there a messaging function built-in that I can't find ;-)?

>

> I have commander running and it is interfacing to the rig, but I

> cannot get the logging function to pick-up the current frequency of

> the rig? Am I doing something wrong?

>

> Can I select a different font in Hellscheiber? If yes, how?

>

> I have a 2.4Ghz system with 512MBs of memory and the hell display

> seems really jerky, is that normal?

>

> I do have to say that I like the video display capability in the

> waterfall.

>

> I am not sure I understand what the heck PAX, PAX2 and how it relates

> to APRS. Can't seem to find anything on that.

>

> I am also confused about how packet and digitalSSTV are related. From

> what I have seen, the new DigitalSSTV systems are quite a bit

> different from what I am seeing with MultiPSK.

>

> Thanks and looking forward to meeting other MultiPSK users on the air.

>

> Duffy

> www.wb8nut.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

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#1103 Feb 28, 2006

Hello Duffy, >The "jerkiness" is on all Hell modes. The paper tape display does not seem to run smoothly. Normally there is no difference with Mixw. I needto see! If you want, I can send you a reference WAV hell file to play with theMultipsk player and decoder, then PSE send me the result."jerkiness": do you mean that the display is doneirregularly but it is of good quality or do you mean that the display itself(what you see) is not good? >send a messageto only WB8ZCC like "Russ, want to >operate 20 meterstonight?"You can send it butwith your position only, not the message alone.

>them all. If you can improve, wow can you actually >make it better?Of course, muchbetter. The limit was the input filter order (I limit to N=200 taps for P166).If I consider a P450 or more, the filtering will be more powerful and thedecoding will be much better and close to the optimum (the algorithm does notchange, just the filter).

>CW Thecursor completely disappears everytime MultiPSK >keys the transmitter and itcomes Which Windows do you have? Do you key through theDTR to the CW key or to XCVR as in PSK31 for example. Have you this problem inother mode (PSK31 for example). 73Patrick ----- Original Message -----From:BeischelTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:59AMSubject: [multipsk] Re: New MultiPSK User- Comments and Questions

Patrick,

I hope you do not think that I wasbeing critical.  Actually I reallylike what you have done with theprogram.  The interface, whileunderstandably cluttered, looks muchbetter now and the colors make itlook much better than before.

The"jerkiness" is on all Hell modes.  The paper tape display doesnotseem to run smoothly.  It works o.k., please don't misunderstandthecomment, just wondering if it is my PC or if that is the nature oftheMultiPSK Hell implementation.

For APRS messaging, you may havemisunderstood.  Is there a way for meto send a message to a specificAPRS station.  For example, I want tosend a message to only WB8ZCClike "Russ, want to operate 20 meterstonight?"

As for the CWdecode, it works great now - best I have seen and I trythem all.  Ifyou can improve, wow can you actually make it better?

Yes, on the CW,if you could fix the problem with losing cursorcontrol during send, thatwould be nice.  The cursor completelydisappears everytime MultiPSKkeys the transmitter and it comes backwhenever the transmitter is notkeyed like between the dits and dahs.

Really a nice program and mycomplements on your work and dedicationto theproject.

Duffywww.wb8nut.com  

--- Inmultipsk@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Lindecker" f6cte@...>wrote:>> Hello Duffy,> > RR for all.>Surely the interface is a bit cluttered but I want to have rapidlyallunder control because I have no much memory (I forget what areinside themenus and it is too long to manage).> > >MixW is a niceprogram and has great features> That's surely the reference...>

> >APRS, and it seems to decode CW better than MixW and Mix does apretty> I'm improving at the moment the CW decoder considering that Icanmake profit of bigger PC than P166 (reference for the actual CWdecoder).> > >In CW, why is it when it is hard-keying the>transmitter, you lose> >control of the cursor? MixW does nothave that >issue, so it can'tbe an operating system issue.> I'llsee this and I'll contact you if I can't see the problem on my PC.>

> >In APRS, is there a messaging function built-in that >I can'tfind ;-)?> Yes, click on "Transmission" and fill the "Comment"field.> > >I have commander running and it is interfacing to>the rig, but Icannot get the logging function to >pick-up thecurrent frequency > The current frequency is directly in the "Freq" QSOfield when youare connected to Commander.> For example, click on"14075 KHz USB Forward". 14.075 must appear onthe Freq field.>

> >Can I select a different font in Hellscheiber?  If >yes,how?> Only two: either "standard" (not bold) or "Bold" (button"Bold").> > >I have a 2.4Ghz system with 512MBs of memory andthe >hell displayseems really jerky, is that normal?> In whatHell mode, have you a snapshot? (I have also a 2,4 GHz,I'llcompare).> > >I am not sure I understand what theheck PAX, PAX2 >and how itrelates to APRS.  Can't seem to find>anything on that.> You can send APRS position through repeaters inPax/Pax2 as inPacket but with only one possibility of alias (ECHO),equivalent tothe Packet "TRACE". Of course, you can send it all over theworld asit is a sensitive mode (derived from Olivia).> See thepresentation of Multipsk from my Web site and the help (onPAX/PAX2 + APRS)for details.> > >I am also confused about how packet anddigitalSSTV >are related. From> >what I have seen, the newDigitalSSTV systems are >quite a bit> >different from what I amseeing with MultiPSK.> I do my own DIGISSTV system with an originalcompression format (Iwrite a paper about it, look on my site). As it isnot used at all,the best is to forget it, or to do experimentations onlyon skeds.> > 73> Patrick> > >

> > >   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: Beischel >   To:multipsk@yahoogroups.com >   Sent: Monday, February 27, 200610:52 PM>   Subject: [multipsk] New MultiPSK User - Commentsand Questions> > >   I have been followingMultiPSK for several years now. I used to>   download a newversion every now and then to see if it was getting>  better.  My main reason for avoiding the program up until now wasthe>   graphical interface.  I always thought it was abit busy, cluttered>   and hard to figure out.  I hadbeen used to the layout of MixW and>   really liked the wayMix was arranged on the screen. > >   MixW is a niceprogram and has great features, but has gotten a bit>  stale. The author(s) do not seem to be real interested inenhancing>   the program as they once did.>

>   So when I tried 3.13, for the first time, I liked the wayit looked. >   I don't know if it is the color or what, butit seemed I could finally>   understand it and figure out howit worked - without reading themanual.> >   It'snice to see new modes added, really like the HF implementationof>   APRS, and it seems to decode CW better than MixW andMix does a pretty>   good job if you know when to choosewhich setting.> >   So I went and registered MultiPSKthis weekend and the author turned>   around a program key tome in about an hour - thanks!> >   I do have a fewcomments and questions.> >   In CW, why is it when itis hard-keying the transmitter, you lose>   control of thecursor? MixW does not have that issue, so it can't be>   anoperating system issue.> >   In APRS, is there amessaging function built-in that I can't find ;-)?>

>   I have commander running and it is interfacing to therig, but I>   cannot get the logging function to pick-up thecurrent frequency of>   the rig? Am I doing somethingwrong?> >   Can I select a different font inHellscheiber?  If yes, how?> >   I have a 2.4Ghzsystem with 512MBs of memory and the hell display>   seemsreally jerky, is that normal?> >   I do have to saythat I like the video display capability in the>  waterfall.  > >   I am not sure I understand whatthe heck PAX, PAX2 and how it relates>   to APRS.  Can'tseem to find anything on that.> >   I am also confusedabout how packet and digitalSSTV are related. From>   what Ihave seen, the new DigitalSSTV systems are quite a bit>  different from what I am seeing with MultiPSK.> >  Thanks and looking forward to meeting other MultiPSK users on the air.>

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#1421 Apr 3, 2006

Hello:



Will be brand new to this digital monitoring.



Have looked on the site, but cannot find anywhere the cost of

the software package ?



Can someone help me out, please.



Also, I realize it's subjective, but "how easy" is the package to use

when compared to other digital monitoring software ? Any thoughts on

all of this for a brand new beginner would be much appreciated.



Thanks,

Bob



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#1422 Apr 3, 2006

Bob :There is no cost unless you license the software. Not neededin day to day applications.It is pretty easy to use and the author and others on thegroup are most helpful.BillKA0VXK----- Original Message -----From:rmrrgsTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:58AMSubject: [multipsk] New To DigitalMonitoring Questions Re Cost, etc.

Hello:

Will be brand new to this digitalmonitoring.

Have looked on the site, but cannot find anywhere the costof the software package ?

Can someone help me out,please.

Also, I realize it's subjective, but "how easy" is the packageto usewhen compared to other digital monitoring software ?  Anythoughts onall of this for a brand new beginner would be muchappreciated.

Thanks,Bob





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#1423 Apr 3, 2006

Bob,

There is no cost for UI-View. Here is what the author said before he

died; "it was stated that both he (Roger) and Dee would like any new

user of UI-View32 to contribute, on an entirely voluntary basis, to

their national Cancer Research organization.



You can register the software and receive some extra add ons at:

www.apritch.myby.co.uk/uiv32.htm



The software it self is more than a "digital spotter", it is mainly a

APRS aplication to view other APRS stations on maps. The digital

spotter was an idea by K3UK and Tommi OH7JJT. As you set up the

software a help file dialog appears with each step or function that

you want to use.



A server needs to be added to the APRS server list address is:

www.cluster.dynalias.org in order to use the digital spotter. Andy

K3UK has some maps he captured over the past few days on the Yahoo

group: groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/

See the map at: www.obriensweb.com/uiview.jpg



If you place your mouse on the icons next to the call signs it brings

up a message box, most say QRV on mode at frequency.



Kind of neat one can visually see who is using the spotter net and

where they are QRV.



HTH,



Jerry - K0HZI

--- In multipsk@yahoogroups.com, "rmrrgs" rgsrose@...> wrote:



Hello:



Will be brand new to this digital monitoring.



Have looked on the site, but cannot find anywhere the cost of

the software package ?



Can someone help me out, please.



Also, I realize it's subjective, but "how easy" is the package to use

when compared to other digital monitoring software ? Any thoughts on

all of this for a brand new beginner would be much appreciated.



Thanks,

Bob



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#1440 Apr 4, 2006

My sick Hell tones in MixW forced me to spend some more time with

Multipsk. I have been using Multipsk more and more and i figured

tonight I should spend some time setting it up better. First thing I

did was customize the colors, that made a big improvement (to my

eyes). Second thing I did was interface it with DX Keeper, it works

very well! I already have Commander working with Multipsk. The

transceiver control is very good with my TS440, nice to have easy

memory storage of two channels.



So now that it is more functional , I have a few rookie questions.



Can the waterfall frequency display actually display the frequency

from the radio ? My waterfall dial simply says 200 to 2500.



What is the "level" referring to next to the mixer input/output ?



Regarding the AGC button. Patrick writes : "- with the button "AGC",

the user may put on or off the waterfall Automatic Gain Control. If

all the signals are weak (28 Mhz band, for example), it is more

convenient to switch on the AGC to give amplification so as to better

see the signals. In the presence of a strong QRM on a weak signal, it

is more convenient to switch off the AGC in order not to hide the QRP

signal. This command has no influence on the decoding"



Is this simply amplifying the waterfall details ?







Do the CW functions support Winkey and paddles ?





Andy K3UK

Fredonia, New York.

Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73

Also available via Echolink



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#1441 Apr 5, 2006

Greetings

This AGC thing is interesting. It just so happens that several hams

in my town have decided to get involved in digital modes. Problem is

that when ever anyone comes on air nearby (usually the same frequency

and time I am on), their signals depress the AGC and weak signals

(which is just about everyone in the world - VK's excluded, hi hi)

disappear. So being able to turn off the AGC may be the way to go. I

do not know any other program that can do this (with the exception of

HRD which gives good control over the rig functions). I doubt too

many people have the same problem (very weak signals and strong

locals) but I would be interested in their methods to combat this

problem.



73 Graeme zl1gbb





--- In multipsk@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien" andrewobrie@...>

wrote: > Regarding the AGC button. Patrick writes : "- with the

button "AGC", > the user may put on or off the waterfall Automatic Gain Control. If

> all the signals are weak (28 Mhz band, for example), it is more

> convenient to switch on the AGC to give amplification so as to

better > see the signals. In the presence of a strong QRM on a weak signal,

it > is more convenient to switch off the AGC in order not to hide the

QRP > signal. This command has no influence on the decoding"

>







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#1443 Apr 5, 2006

Graeme, Try switching off your Noise Blanker.  73 Karl

Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.



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#1444 Apr 5, 2006

 ----- Original Message -----From:AndrewO'BrienTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:50AMSubject: [multipsk] Basic Mutipskquestions ?

My sick Hell tones in MixW forced me to spend some moretime withMultipsk.  I have been using Multipsk more and more and ifiguredtonight I should spend some time setting it up better.  Firstthing Idid was customize the colors, that made a big improvement (tomyeyes).  Second thing I did was interface it with DX Keeper, itworksvery well!  I already have Commander working withMultipsk.  Thetransceiver control is very good with my TS440, nice tohave easymemory storage of two channels.

So now that it is morefunctional , I have a few rookie questions.

Can the waterfall frequencydisplay actually display the frequencyfrom the radio ?  My waterfalldial simply says 200 to 2500.

What is the "level" referring to next tothe mixer input/output ?

Regarding the AGC button.  Patrick writes: "- with the button "AGC",the user may put on or off the waterfallAutomatic Gain Control. Ifall the signals are weak (28 Mhz band, forexample), it is moreconvenient to switch on the AGC to give amplificationso as to bettersee the signals. In the presence of a strong QRM on a weaksignal, itis more convenient to switch off the AGC in order not to hidethe QRPsignal. This command has no influence on the decoding"

Isthis simply amplifying the waterfall details ?



Do the CWfunctions support Winkey and paddles ?

Andy K3UKFredonia, NewYork.Skype Me :  callto://andyobrien73Also available viaEcholink



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#1445 Apr 5, 2006

Hello Andrew, RR for all and especially the demonstrations(people like to walk here and to shout in the same time).  >Can thewaterfall frequency display actually >display the frequency from the radio?  My >waterfall dial simply says 200 to 2500.No it does not.However if you are linked to Commander, the very exact frequency correspondingto the cursor on the waterfall is displayed (under "Carrierfrequency"). >What is the"level" referring to next to the mixer >input/output ?It is theinput level in %. Normally it might be between 20 and 70 %, but it is notcritical except if you are very weak (several %) or overdriven (100%). >signal. This command has no influence on the >decoding"

No it has no influence at all (it is just aquestion of display). As pointed by Graeme, it can be used by putting it"Off" to see weak stations among big ones, or "On" to increase the generallevel and have always more or less the same colors. The standard is to have theAGC "On".Note: before I did an average of spectrums whichpermitted to better distinguish weak stations (the average increase the S/Nratio), but I remove it to be able to read Video ID. >Do the CW functions support Winkey and paddles?No they don't. But at the next version (3.14), I will give the possibilityfor W. XP computers to key the XCVR through the DTR (serial port), with areasonable consumption of CPU.  73Patrick

 ----- Original Message -----From:AndrewO'BrienTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:50AMSubject: [multipsk] Basic Mutipskquestions ?

My sick Hell tones in MixW forced me to spend somemore time withMultipsk.  I have been using Multipsk more and more andi figuredtonight I should spend some time setting it up better. First thing Idid was customize the colors, that made a big improvement (tomyeyes).  Second thing I did was interface it with DX Keeper, itworksvery well!  I already have Commander working withMultipsk.  Thetransceiver control is very good with my TS440, nice tohave easymemory storage of two channels.

So now that it is morefunctional , I have a few rookie questions.

Can the waterfall frequencydisplay actually display the frequencyfrom the radio ?  My waterfalldial simply says 200 to 2500.

What is the "level" referring to next tothe mixer input/output ?

Regarding the AGC button.  Patrick writes: "- with the button "AGC",the user may put on or off the waterfallAutomatic Gain Control. Ifall the signals are weak (28 Mhz band, forexample), it is moreconvenient to switch on the AGC to give amplificationso as to bettersee the signals. In the presence of a strong QRM on a weaksignal, itis more convenient to switch off the AGC in order not to hidethe QRPsignal. This command has no influence on the decoding"

Isthis simply amplifying the waterfall details ?



Do the CWfunctions support Winkey and paddles ?

Andy K3UKFredonia, NewYork.Skype Me :  callto://andyobrien73Also available viaEcholink



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#1449 Apr 5, 2006

>Do the CW functions support Winkey and paddles ?

>No they don't. But at the next version (3.14), I will give the possibility for W. XP computers to key the XCVR through the DTR (serial port), with a reasonable >consumption of CPU.

 This will be a good development.  My rig ,Microkeyer, and paddles use DTR via the virtual comm port.   

>>Can the waterfall frequency display actually >display the frequency from the radio ?  My >waterfall dial simply says 200 to >>2500.

>No it does not. However if you are linked to Commander, the very exact frequency corresponding to the cursor on the waterfall is displayed (under "Carrier frequency").  T

 Thanks , that works well.  My original question is linked to capturing the carrier frequency and exporting it to a DX spot for a cluster.  I have not played around with DX Keeper and Spotcollector yet, but since Multipsk interfaces well with DX Keeper it may be possible to use Spotcollector and MUltipsk to send Dx spots.

   

>What is the "level" referring to next to the mixer >input/output ?

It is the input level in %. Normally it might be between 20 and 70 %, but it is not critical except if you are very weak (several %) or overdriven (100 %). Hmm, I will have to study that some more.  I think I was seeing 4% but may not have been watching closely since I did not know what this was.  

 Thanks again

 







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#1643 Jun 2, 2006

Hello Patrick and everyone,





I have two questions about the operation of Multipsk:



Panoramic RTTY: nothing ever decodes in the Panoramic RTTY screen. I can

decode RTTY normally in the main receive window. In fact I can de decoding a

station and switch to panoramic and can see which line is for that

transmission but it never decodes. What could be wrong?





Panoramic PSK: unlike panoramic RTTY this works but I often see two lines

for the same transmission, one under the other. Does this matter? Does it

matter which of the two are clicked on to go to that transmission in the

main receive window - would I be on the same frequency no matter which I

picked? Is there something I should be doing to stop having the same

transmission on two lines? It only ever seems to happen to one transmission

and only (it seems) in two of the top lines of the panoramic display - the

other lines underneath show just one transmission each. It is strange hi.





Thanks,

Eric G0CGL.



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#1644 Jun 3, 2006

Hello Eric, >Panoramic RTTY: nothing ever decodes in the Panoramic RTTY screen. I

can >decode RTTY normally in the main receive window. In fact I can de

decoding a >station and switch to panoramic and can see which line is for

that >transmission but it never decodes. What could be wrong? I test the RTTY decoder on 3.14.2 version, it works good. Youmust see several decodings if you receive several RTTY stations.However:* you need a PC 700 MHz at a minimum and better aPC at 1.8 GHz,* the decoding is not so better as in true RTTYdecoding (due to less efficient filtering),* you have several useless (random) decodings,because the software cannot know which is a markand which is a space. Example: if you have 2 transmissions with "mark""space" "mark" "space" (at 170 Hz interval each), the software coumd not know ifthe true Mark space is "mark" "space" or "space" mark", so all is decoded (goodand bad), and the user rejects the useless decodings.If you can't decodeand if you have a powerful PC, there is a downloading problem. Check if the "PC pb" lights. Click on 1.8 GHZ ifyour PC is very powerful. >PanoramicPSK: unlike panoramic RTTY this works but I often see two lines >for the

same transmission, one under the other. Does this matter? Does itYesit is normal. Each channel has its own PLL. This PLL follows the maintransmission received inside the channel. If a big transmission falls moreor less between two channels, it will be decoded by both channels. >main receive window - would I be on the same frequency no matter which

I >picked?

Yes >Is there something I should be doing to stop having the same

transmission on two lines?No, it's inherent to the working. 73Patrick  ----- Original Message -----From:Eric CarlingTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:33AMSubject: [multipsk] 2 questions about theprogram

Hello Patrick and everyone,

I have two questionsabout the operation of Multipsk:

Panoramic RTTY: nothing ever decodesin the Panoramic RTTY screen. I candecode RTTY normally in the mainreceive window. In fact I can de decoding astation and switch to panoramicand can see which line is for thattransmission but it never decodes. Whatcould be wrong?

Panoramic PSK: unlike panoramic RTTY this works butI often see two linesfor the same transmission, one under the other. Doesthis matter? Does itmatter which of the two are clicked on to go to thattransmission in themain receive window - would I be on the same frequencyno matter which Ipicked? Is there something I should be doing to stophaving the sametransmission on two lines? It only ever seems to happen toone transmissionand only (it seems) in two of the top lines of thepanoramic display - theother lines underneath show just one transmissioneach. It is strange hi.

Thanks,Eric G0CGL.



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#1645 Jun 3, 2006

Hello Patrick I have a 3.2 GHZ computer and I have tried all the settings including 1.8GHZ. The "PC pb" does not light. I assume that is a good thing.  It doesn't so much matter because decoding is excellent in the normal receive window. But I'm curious just to know what you mean by " a downloading problem" as it seems that might be what I have. Thanks again, Eric.  -------Original Message------- From: Patrick LindeckerDate: 06/03/06 08:58:48To: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [multipsk] 2 questions about the program



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#1646 Jun 3, 2006

 ----- Original Message -----From:Eric CarlingTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:28AMSubject: Re: [multipsk] 2 questions aboutthe program

Hello Patrick I have a 3.2 GHZ computer and I have tried all the settingsincluding 1.8GHZ. The "PC pb" does not light. I assume thatis a good thing.  It doesn't so much matter because decoding is excellent in thenormal receive window. But I'm curious just to know what you mean by " adownloading problem" as it seems that might be what I have. Thanks again, Eric.  -------OriginalMessage------- From: Patrick LindeckerDate: 06/03/0608:58:48To: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re:[multipsk] 2 questions about the program



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#1647 Jun 3, 2006

Hello Eric, >3.2 GHZ computer

Much more that sufficient. >"downloading problem"It means that when you downloaded Multipsk, a bit or more were badtransmitted and the Multipsk behaviour becomes random. Try again a Multipskdownload (unzip only the Multipsk .EXE to your folder if you have already the3.14.2 version) and test it. If you have nothing, tell me:* what Windows do you have? (XP?)* what level do you have (in RTTY panoramic)?* what squelch level do you have (in RTTY panoramic)? (put itto 0)* do you have random characters (in RTTYpanoramic)? 73Patrick  ----- Original Message -----From:Eric CarlingTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:28AMSubject: Re: [multipsk] 2 questions aboutthe program

Hello Patrick I have a 3.2 GHZ computer and I have tried all the settingsincluding 1.8GHZ. The "PC pb" does not light. I assume thatis a good thing.  It doesn't so much matter because decoding is excellent in thenormal receive window. But I'm curious just to know what you mean by " adownloading problem" as it seems that might be what I have. Thanks again, Eric.  -------OriginalMessage------- From: Patrick LindeckerDate: 06/03/0608:58:48To: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re:[multipsk] 2 questions about the program







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#1648 Jun 3, 2006

Hello Patrick This is something my side I think. I did d/load Multipsk again but same. I have XP SP2. I have level 30%, squelch at 0 and yes I have random characters. BUT.......in experimenting I found the Panoramic works fine if my transceiver (Yaesu FT1000MP) is in SSB USB. It is when it is in RTTY-USB or RTTY-LSB that the decoding isn't possible. This fooled me because the RTTY and PKT modes are what I was using in the normal receive window successfully. So this must be something to do with filters or bandwidth I guess ????  Eric.   -------Original Message------- From: Patrick LindeckerDate: 06/03/06 10:43:21To: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [multipsk] 2 questions about the program



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#1649 Jun 3, 2006

Hello Eric, >BUT.......in experimenting I found the Panoramic works fine if my

transceiver (Yaesu FT1000MP) is in SSB >USB. It is when it is inRTTY-USB or RTTY-LSB that the decoding isn't possible.Glad it works. Normally Multispk as other sound card decoders decode in xcvrUSB position.  >RTTY-USB

I don't know what covers exactly RTTY-USB but I suppose that must besomething about an additive filter in the xcvr (at the standard RTTYfrequencies). But the problem is that you can decode in all the spectrum withsoundcard decoders no simply a couple of frequencies as with old machines. Soswitch to USB! 73Patrick      ----- Original Message -----From:Eric CarlingTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 1:34PMSubject: Re: [multipsk] 2 questions aboutthe program

Hello Patrick This is something my side I think. I did d/load Multipsk again but same. I have XP SP2. I have level30%, squelch at 0 and yes I have random characters. BUT.......in experimenting I found the Panoramic works fine if mytransceiver (Yaesu FT1000MP) is in SSB USB. It is when it is inRTTY-USB or RTTY-LSB that the decoding isn't possible. This fooled mebecause the RTTY and PKT modes are what I was using in the normalreceive window successfully. So this must be something to do withfilters or bandwidth I guess ????  Eric.   -------OriginalMessage------- From: Patrick LindeckerDate: 06/03/0610:43:21To: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re:[multipsk] 2 questions about the program



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#4152 Nov 23, 2007

I just registered MultiPSK earlier this week to use in an

auto-spotting experiment for 30 Meters. All of that is working well

but I have some newbie type questions on regular use of the software

for PSK-31 operation.



1. How to I get into a mode that will NOT begin transmitting as I

start typing? I'd like to be able to compose as I read the other

transmission and then manually begin my reply transmission.



2. Can I configure the program to automatically switch back to receive

mode once it has sent my transmit buffer? Currently I have to guess

when it's finished and hit escape.



I'm sure these are obvious things but I'm not quite sure where this

stuff is addressed in the help files and I did not see any notes here

in the files section.



Tim, N9PUZ



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#4155 Nov 23, 2007

Tim, >1. How to I get into a mode that will NOT begin transmitting as

I >start typing? I'd like to be able to compose as I read the

other >transmission and then manually begin my reply transmission

I'm not sure to understand thequestion.In RX position, you can compose you message in theeditor window. it will be sent when you will begin to TX. However if you change of mode, you will lose yourmessage. Note: if you push on "Auto TX", you will TXdirectly as soon as you will type. If extracted, push on TX or type ESC>to TX. >2. Can I configure the program to automatically switch back to

receive >mode once it has sent my transmit buffer? Currently I have to

guess >when it's finished and hit escape.

You can use the RX> at the end of the macro ("sequence"). Clickright with the mouse to have access to the sequence.There is no automatic way to RX directly when the message toTX has been transmitted.  73Patrick

 ----- Original Message -----From:TimTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, November 23, 2007 5:13PMSubject: [multipsk] New UserQuestions

I just registered MultiPSK earlier this week to use in anauto-spottingexperiment for 30 Meters. All of that is working wellbut I have somenewbie type questions on regular use of the softwarefor PSK-31operation.

1. How to I get into a mode that will NOT begin transmittingas Istart typing? I'd like to be able to compose as I read theothertransmission and then manually begin my reply transmission.

2.Can I configure the program to automatically switch back to receivemodeonce it has sent my transmit buffer? Currently I have to guesswhen it'sfinished and hit escape.

I'm sure these are obvious things but I'm notquite sure where thisstuff is addressed in the help files and I did notsee any notes herein the files section.

Tim,N9PUZ



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#4895 Mar 30, 2008

1. Can Test 4.8 be installed over current registered 4.7 - or must it

be in a serparate 'Test' folder?



2. In JT65 mode, whenever I switch from TX back to RX, the receive

pane is erased. Shouldn't the receive window scroll and NOT be

automatically cleared?



3. Entered Personal info but it is NOT inserted into callsign

locations on JT65 button windows.



Tks, de Rich/N2JR



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#4896 Mar 30, 2008

Hello Rick, >1. Can Test4.8 be installed over current registered 4.7 - or must it >be in a

serparate 'Test' folder?You could doboth, but it is better to put it in a separate test folder. >2. In JT65mode, whenever I switch from TX back to RX, the receive >pane is erased.

Shouldn't the receive window scroll and NOT be >automatically

cleared?I'm not sure tounderstand as there are no "RX/TX" commands. Which buttons are yourefering? >3. Entered Personal info but it is NOT insertedinto callsignlocations on JT65 button windows.It is considered personalinformation at the start of JT65 mode working. So change to PSK31 for exampleand come back to JT65.I will modifythis so as to update the fields as soon as you save your personalinformation. 73Patrick





  ----- Original Message -----From:rich3xTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:32PMSubject: [multipsk] Questions re JT65v4.8

1. Can Test 4.8 be installed over current registered 4.7 - or must itbein a serparate 'Test' folder?

2. In JT65 mode, whenever I switch fromTX back to RX, the receivepane is erased. Shouldn't the receive windowscroll and NOT beautomatically cleared?

3. Entered Personal infobut it is NOT inserted into callsignlocations on JT65 buttonwindows.

Tks, de Rich/N2JR







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#4898 Mar 31, 2008

Patrick: Here is item #2 restated:



2. In JT65 mode, whenever the program automatically switches from TX

back to RX, the receive pane is erased. Shouldn't the receive window

scroll and NOT be automatically cleared? It is important that all

data remain in the receive window for logging and reference purposes.

The can 'Clear' (button) when he desires.



de Rich/N2JR

--- In multipsk@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Lindecker" f6cte@...> wrote:

>

> Hello Rick,

>

> >1. Can Test 4.8 be installed over current registered 4.7 - or must it

> >be in a serparate 'Test' folder?

> You could do both, but it is better to put it in a separate test folder.

>

> >2. In JT65 mode, whenever I switch from TX back to RX, the receive

> >pane is erased. Shouldn't the receive window scroll and NOT be

> >automatically cleared?

> I'm not sure to understand as there are no "RX/TX" commands. Which

buttons are you refering?

>

> >3. Entered Personal info but it is NOT inserted into callsign

> locations on JT65 button windows.

> It is considered personal information at the start of JT65 mode

working. So change to PSK31 for example and come back to JT65.

> I will modify this so as to update the fields as soon as you save

your personal information.

>

> 73

> Patrick

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: rich3x

> To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:32 PM

> Subject: [multipsk] Questions re JT65 v4.8

>

>

> 1. Can Test 4.8 be installed over current registered 4.7 - or must it

> be in a serparate 'Test' folder?

>

> 2. In JT65 mode, whenever I switch from TX back to RX, the receive

> pane is erased. Shouldn't the receive window scroll and NOT be

> automatically cleared?

>

> 3. Entered Personal info but it is NOT inserted into callsign

> locations on JT65 button windows.

>

> Tks, de Rich/N2JR

>



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#4903 Mar 24, 2008

Hello Rich, >2. In JT65 mode, whenever the program automatically switches from

TXback to RX, the receive pane is erased. Shouldn't the receivewindowscroll and NOT be automatically cleared? It is important thatalldata remain in the receive window for logging and referencepurposes.The can 'Clear' (button) when he desires.Normally, the data remains displayed. It is a verycurious behaviour. Could you confirm this:* you decode at least one JT65 frame,* you answer or call CQ in automatic (button"Automatic. TX" On). * as soon as you have finished to TX and as soon as"RX" appears in the green label (to the right of "+/-20 Hz"), the previousdisplayed JT65 frame disappeares (cleared). I suppose that you have the last JT65 version(16/03).If so,  could you send me your configurationfile CONFPSER.SER (f6cte@...).TKS. 73Patrick  ----- Original Message -----From:rich3xTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:04PMSubject: [multipsk] Re: Questions re JT65v4.8

Patrick: Here is item #2 restated:

2. In JT65 mode, whenever theprogram automatically switches from TXback to RX, the receive pane iserased. Shouldn't the receive windowscroll and NOT be automaticallycleared? It is important that alldata remain in the receive window forlogging and reference purposes.The can 'Clear' (button) when hedesires.

de Rich/N2JR

--- In multipsk@yahoogroup s.com,"Patrick Lindecker" f6cte@...> wrote:>> HelloRick,> > >1. Can Test 4.8 be installed over currentregistered 4.7 - or must it> >be in a serparate 'Test'folder?> You could do both, but it is better to put it in a separatetest folder.> > >2. In JT65 mode, whenever I switch from TXback to RX, the receive> >pane is erased. Shouldn't the receivewindow scroll and NOT be> >automatically cleared?> I'm notsure to understand as there are no "RX/TX" commands. Whichbuttons are yourefering?> > >3. Entered Personal info but it is NOT insertedinto callsign> locations on JT65 button windows.> It isconsidered personal information at the start of JT65 modeworking. Sochange to PSK31 for example and come back to JT65.> I will modify thisso as to update the fields as soon as you saveyour personalinformation.> > 73> Patrick> > >

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> From: rich3x > To: multipsk@yahoogroup s.com

> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:32 PM> Subject: [multipsk]Questions re JT65 v4.8> > > 1. Can Test 4.8 be installedover current registered 4.7 - or must it> be in a serparate 'Test'folder?> > 2. In JT65 mode, whenever I switch from TX back toRX, the receive> pane is erased. Shouldn't the receive window scrolland NOT be> automatically cleared?> > 3. Entered Personalinfo but it is NOT inserted into callsign> locations on JT65 buttonwindows.> > Tks, de Rich/N2JR>



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#4909 Apr 1, 2008

Patrick: will reinstall JT65 Test version. Where is the latest

version? Original address I used is not working.



Rich/N2JR



--- In multipsk@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Lindecker" f6cte@...> wrote:

>

> Hello Rich,

>

> >2. In JT65 mode, whenever the program automatically switches from TX

> back to RX, the receive pane is erased. Shouldn't the receive window

> scroll and NOT be automatically cleared? It is important that all

> data remain in the receive window for logging and reference purposes.

> The can 'Clear' (button) when he desires.

>

> Normally, the data remains displayed. It is a very curious behaviour.

> Could you confirm this:

> * you decode at least one JT65 frame,

> * you answer or call CQ in automatic (button "Automatic. TX" On).

> * as soon as you have finished to TX and as soon as "RX" appears in

the green label (to the right of "+/-20 Hz"), the previous displayed

JT65 frame disappeares (cleared).

>

> I suppose that you have the last JT65 version (16/03).

> If so, could you send me your configuration file CONFPSER.SER

(f6cte@...). TKS.

>

> 73

> Patrick

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: rich3x

> To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:04 PM

> Subject: [multipsk] Re: Questions re JT65 v4.8

>

>

> Patrick: Here is item #2 restated:

>

> 2. In JT65 mode, whenever the program automatically switches from TX

> back to RX, the receive pane is erased. Shouldn't the receive window

> scroll and NOT be automatically cleared? It is important that all

> data remain in the receive window for logging and reference purposes.

> The can 'Clear' (button) when he desires.

>

> de Rich/N2JR

>

> --- In multipsk@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Lindecker" f6cte@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Rick,

> >

> > >1. Can Test 4.8 be installed over current registered 4.7 - or

must it

> > >be in a serparate 'Test' folder?

> > You could do both, but it is better to put it in a separate test

folder.

> >

> > >2. In JT65 mode, whenever I switch from TX back to RX, the receive

> > >pane is erased. Shouldn't the receive window scroll and NOT be

> > >automatically cleared?

> > I'm not sure to understand as there are no "RX/TX" commands. Which

> buttons are you refering?

> >

> > >3. Entered Personal info but it is NOT inserted into callsign

> > locations on JT65 button windows.

> > It is considered personal information at the start of JT65 mode

> working. So change to PSK31 for example and come back to JT65.

> > I will modify this so as to update the fields as soon as you save

> your personal information.

> >

> > 73

> > Patrick

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: rich3x

> > To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

> > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:32 PM

> > Subject: [multipsk] Questions re JT65 v4.8

> >

> >

> > 1. Can Test 4.8 be installed over current registered 4.7 - or

must it

> > be in a serparate 'Test' folder?

> >

> > 2. In JT65 mode, whenever I switch from TX back to RX, the receive

> > pane is erased. Shouldn't the receive window scroll and NOT be

> > automatically cleared?

> >

> > 3. Entered Personal info but it is NOT inserted into callsign

> > locations on JT65 button windows.

> >

> > Tks, de Rich/N2JR

> >

>







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#4914 Apr 1, 2008

Hello Rich, The latest test version is the 31/03/2008 one. Lookof my last mail yesterday about test on sampling frequencies. 73Patrick  ----- Original Message -----From:rich3xTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:39PMSubject: [multipsk] Re: Questions re JT65v4.8

Patrick: will reinstall JT65 Test version. Where is the latestversion?Original address I used is not working.

Rich/N2JR

--- In multipsk@yahoogroup s.com,"Patrick Lindecker" f6cte@...> wrote:>> HelloRich,> > >2. In JT65 mode, whenever the program automaticallyswitches from TX> back to RX, the receive pane is erased. Shouldn't thereceive window> scroll and NOT be automatically cleared? It isimportant that all> data remain in the receive window for logging andreference purposes.> The can 'Clear' (button) when he desires.>

> Normally, the data remains displayed. It is a very curious behaviour.

> Could you confirm this:> * you decode at least one JT65frame,> * you answer or call CQ in automatic (button "Automatic. TX"On). > * as soon as you have finished to TX and as soon as "RX" appearsinthe green label (to the right of "+/-20 Hz"), the previousdisplayedJT65 frame disappeares (cleared).> > I suppose thatyou have the last JT65 version (16/03).> If so, could you send me yourconfiguration file CONFPSER.SER(f6cte@...). TKS.> >73> Patrick> > > ----- Original Message -----

> From: rich3x > To: multipsk@yahoogroup s.com

> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:04 PM> Subject: [multipsk] Re:Questions re JT65 v4.8> > > Patrick: Here is item #2restated:> > 2. In JT65 mode, whenever the program automaticallyswitches from TX> back to RX, the receive pane is erased. Shouldn't thereceive window> scroll and NOT be automatically cleared? It isimportant that all> data remain in the receive window for logging andreference purposes.> The can 'Clear' (button) when he desires.>

> de Rich/N2JR> > --- In multipsk@yahoogroup s.com,"Patrick Lindecker" f6cte@> wrote:> >> > HelloRick,> > > > >1. Can Test 4.8 be installed over currentregistered 4.7 - ormust it> > >be in a serparate 'Test'folder?> > You could do both, but it is better to put it in aseparate testfolder.> > > > >2. In JT65 mode,whenever I switch from TX back to RX, the receive> > >pane iserased. Shouldn't the receive window scroll and NOT be> >>automatically cleared?> > I'm not sure to understand as thereare no "RX/TX" commands. Which> buttons are you refering?> >

> > >3. Entered Personal info but it is NOT inserted intocallsign> > locations on JT65 button windows.> > It isconsidered personal information at the start of JT65 mode> working. Sochange to PSK31 for example and come back to JT65.> > I will modifythis so as to update the fields as soon as you save> your personalinformation.> > > > 73> > Patrick> >

> > > > > > > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: rich3x

> > To: multipsk@yahoogroup s.com

> > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:32 PM> > Subject:[multipsk] Questions re JT65 v4.8> > > > > > 1.Can Test 4.8 be installed over current registered 4.7 - ormust it>> be in a serparate 'Test' folder?> > > > 2. In JT65mode, whenever I switch from TX back to RX, the receive> > pane iserased. Shouldn't the receive window scroll and NOT be> >automatically cleared?> > > > 3. Entered Personal info butit is NOT inserted into callsign> > locations on JT65 buttonwindows.> > > > Tks, de Rich/N2JR>>>



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#5154 May 28, 2008

Hello to all, Pour information, pour ceux qui pr.f.rent poser desquestions ou discuter en fran.ais, je vais assez souvent voir le forum "Modesdigitaux & satellites"  de Radioamateur.org: www.radioamateur.org/forums/index0.php Por informacion, por los que prefieren preguntar ocharlar en espanol, voy, de vez en cuando, ver el foro general de Joachin(EA4ZB) www.ea4zb.com/modules.php?name=Forumsy puedo responder (pero escribo el castellanosin accentos, perdon a Cervantes HI).Es un sitio para el PSK31 y por extension,por todos los modos digitales. 73Patrick     



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#5167 Jun 4, 2008

Patrick,



Thanks for the very nice program. I have been using it for spotting

PSK31 calls on 30 meters and posting them to Sholto's web site for a

few months now. More recently I have started using other programs -

primarily MixW - for QSOs while MultiPSK is concurrently running in

the panoramic mode. I was very pleasantly surprised to find out how

well this works. I discovered more recently using your Sampling freq

calibration procedure that my sound card RX sampling frequency

calibration was off by about 0.5%.



I have some questions about how the sound card is shared between

these programs. The RX sampling frequency in MultiPSK is now set for

11077 HZ but in MixW it is set for 8000 HZ normally - now 8040 Hz.

Can the two programs sample the sound at two different rates

concurrently or is the sampling controlled by one program?



When the 16bit button in not selected, is the sampling and processing

done with 8 bits? How much does this affect the performance? I have

noticed that the CPU usage runs about 10%/40% with the button

deselected/selected which is consistent with 8/16 bit processing.



Miscellaneous questions: With the World & Automatic reception window

is it possible to turn off the map so only the list is displayed?

Also the window always seems to go back to the 'small' mode. Is

there a way to make it stay in the 'large' mode?



Thanks,

Ed

WB6YTE



----------------------------

#5169 Jun 5, 2008

Hello Ed, >PSK31 calls on 30 meters and posting them to Sholto's web site for a

few months now.Note: for the one's who don't knowthe Sholto's 30m site: www.projectsandparts.com/30m/

>calibrationwas off by about 0.5%.It is classical(the error can go up to 1% in general). >Can the two programs sample the sound at two different rates

>concurrently or is the sampling controlled by one program?

Programs leans on Windows API (waveInOpen for example). What is behind isnot known...It seems that under XP it does not matter the presence of differentprograms. However some programs are compatible (Multipsk and Mixw), some are notcompatible (Multipsk and PCAle). I don't know why.

>Whenthe 16bit button in not selected, is the sampling and processing >done

with 8 bits? How much does this affect the performance? I have >noticed

that the CPU usage runs about 10%/40% with the button

>deselected/selected which is consistent with 8/16 bit

processing.>the sampling andprocessing done with 8 bits?Yes and it takes a bit less CPU (the difference that you measure seemsmuch).It does not matter to work on 8 bits or 16 bits.Except if you have to work with very small signals (let's say 5% on theLevel box), the standard is to work in 8 bits. Strickly speaking there is a veryslight gain to work in 16 bits (because the sampling noise decrease slightly)but it is residual if you level is normal (let's say around 30 % or more onthe Level box). >Miscellaneous questions: With the World &Automatic reception window >is it possible to turn off the map so only

the list is displayed? You can hide the map, but you can position the RXwindow  (spinbuttons "position") in the top of thewindow.You will see all except the map. Once done, it istaken ito account. for the next times.

>Also the window always seems to go back to the'small' mode. Is there a way to make it stay in the 'large'mode?Do you mean that you would like that in "Received calls"mode? 73Patrick

 

 ----- Original Message -----From:Ed HekmanTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:03AMSubject: [multipsk] sound card samplingand sharing questions

Patrick,

Thanks for the very nice program. I have been using it forspotting PSK31 calls on 30 meters and posting them to Sholto's web sitefor a few months now. More recently I have started using other programs -

primarily MixW - for QSOs while MultiPSK is concurrently running in

the panoramic mode. I was very pleasantly surprised to find out how

well this works. I discovered more recently using your Sampling freq

calibration procedure that my sound card RX sampling frequency

calibration was off by about 0.5%.

I have some questions about howthe sound card is shared between these programs. The RX sampling frequencyin MultiPSK is now set for 11077 HZ but in MixW it is set for 8000 HZnormally - now 8040 Hz. Can the two programs sample the sound at twodifferent rates concurrently or is the sampling controlled by one program?

When the 16bit button in not selected, is the sampling and processing

done with 8 bits? How much does this affect the performance? I have

noticed that the CPU usage runs about 10%/40% with the button

deselected/selected which is consistent with 8/16 bitprocessing.

Miscellaneous questions: With the World & Automaticreception window is it possible to turn off the map so only the list isdisplayed? Also the window always seems to go back to the 'small' mode. Is

there a way to make it stay in the 'large'mode?

Thanks,EdWB6YTE







----------------------------

#8863 Jan 28 5:27 PM

Hullo Patrick,



I've recently been learning about the HF Fax decoding in MultiPSK

(v4.16, FT-857D, simple wire antenna, Kenwood AT-230, SignaLink SL-1+,

XP SP3, P4 2.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM).



Receiving NMC Pt. Reyes, Cali. on 4 MHz last night was quite fun once I

worked out some of the controls. Yes, I've read the Help file.



Stop Tone

---------

1. The Auto Stop on the 450 Hz tone worked a little less than half the

time out of some 12 faxes. Either the USCG does not send the tone for

the full length of time or any fade causes the feature to not function

reliably.



I took a quick look on-line to see if there were any specifications for

how long that tone should be sent for or what would be good length of

time for receiving it to for an application to make a decision based on

APT. I found only about three references to these being sent for 5 seconds.



If there is no requirement/guideline for decoding applications, would it

be worthwhile experimenting with reducing the reception time of the Stop

Tone by a few seconds? Is there much danger in doing so? Based on my

limited observations, this might increase the reliability of this feature.



Auto Stop button

----------------

2. I noted that once one has pushed the Auto Stop button one must cycle

it each time a new fax is to be received manually. Is this intended or

necessary? What might the rationale be?



Related button function seems reasonable.

- The RX Stop cuts flow, it makes sense this state should remain this

way as long as the button is depressed.

- Stop Down button - after the screen fills and interpreted data has

stopped being displayed one may push the Clear button and the screen

begins to build again. Makes sense to me.



To me it would also make sense that, even if the Auto Stop is depressed,

once one has depressed Clear, the displayed data commences flowing again.



1:1 (Normal) button

-------------------

3. A. When the 1:1 (Normal) button has been depressed the displayed data

is cleared. This was a surprise and I lost a good fax. g> I won't argue

whether should happen, just noting it. Was a bit frustrating though.

B. When it has been toggled On the screen slider/cursor on the right

side of the whole window covers information and buttons in the upper

right control panel.

C. With the 1:1 (Normal) button depressed I have scrolled the screen,

using the window slider on the right, to display the waterfall at the

top and much of the display area. Pushing a Slant correction button

causes the whole of the window to suddenly shift to display the top part

of the window.

- this was startling

- one may lose see the effect of the correction/input

- the next button press in a series of intended inputs is no longer on

the button/control one intended to push. This might cause an

unintentional operator error.

- in this mode I can't scroll the whole of the screen with my wheel

mouse (as one might in a web browser or many other apps).



This isn't necessarily desired, however in it's absence (and as the Page

Down/Up buttons also have no affect) one is required to use the right

hand window slider or click in it's area to move the screen.



Thank you again for a very interesting application.



Salute es 73, John



VA7OTC Victoria BC

VE0JD J.D. Erskine



----------------------------

#8865 Jan 29 2:32 PM

Hello John,



RR for all and TKS for remarks.

> Stop Tone

It is based on a 5 seconds duration which is the standard. The decoding

duration of the 450 Hz is one second. It is a good compromise (perhaps not

the best but...).

> Auto Stop button

> 2. I noted that once one has pushed the Auto Stop button one must cycle

> it each time a new fax is to be received manually. Is this intended or

> necessary? What might the rationale be?

It is not normal. It is a bug. I will fix this so as be able to start a new

reception even if the Auto Stop is pushed, but the Synchro button is also

pushed or the Clear button has been pushed.

> 1:1 (Normal) button

> 3. A. When the 1:1 (Normal) button has been depressed the displayed data

Yes there is a reinitialization (as a different mode).

> B. When it has been toggled On the screen slider/cursor on the right

> side of the whole window covers information and buttons in the upper

> right control panel.

Yes I know. Not very nice. The solution would be to create a specific window

for fax, but I have many other things to see. > C. With the 1:1 (Normal) button depressed I have scrolled the screen,

You must scroll to adjust the slant once at the beginning. It is supposed

not to move afterwards. The general scroll of all the picture is not

expected in fax (but it is in SSTV).



Note: Multipsk is a multi mode, so each mode is basically decoded. It exists

specialized softs, as WEFAX for example, with many possibilities.



73

Patrick

----- Original Message -----

From: "VA7OTC JD Erskine" va7otc@...>

To: "MultiPSK Y!Group" multipsk@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:27 AM

Subject: [multipsk] HF Fax Auto Stop tone/button behaviour. Other FAX

questions.





> Hullo Patrick,

>

> I've recently been learning about the HF Fax decoding in MultiPSK

> (v4.16, FT-857D, simple wire antenna, Kenwood AT-230, SignaLink SL-1+,

> XP SP3, P4 2.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM).

>

> Receiving NMC Pt. Reyes, Cali. on 4 MHz last night was quite fun once I

> worked out some of the controls. Yes, I've read the Help file.

>

> Stop Tone

> ---------

> 1. The Auto Stop on the 450 Hz tone worked a little less than half the

> time out of some 12 faxes. Either the USCG does not send the tone for

> the full length of time or any fade causes the feature to not function

> reliably.

>

> I took a quick look on-line to see if there were any specifications for

> how long that tone should be sent for or what would be good length of

> time for receiving it to for an application to make a decision based on

> APT. I found only about three references to these being sent for 5

> seconds.

>

> If there is no requirement/guideline for decoding applications, would it

> be worthwhile experimenting with reducing the reception time of the Stop

> Tone by a few seconds? Is there much danger in doing so? Based on my

> limited observations, this might increase the reliability of this feature.

>

> Auto Stop button

> ----------------

> 2. I noted that once one has pushed the Auto Stop button one must cycle

> it each time a new fax is to be received manually. Is this intended or

> necessary? What might the rationale be?

>

> Related button function seems reasonable.

> - The RX Stop cuts flow, it makes sense this state should remain this

> way as long as the button is depressed.

> - Stop Down button - after the screen fills and interpreted data has

> stopped being displayed one may push the Clear button and the screen

> begins to build again. Makes sense to me.

>

> To me it would also make sense that, even if the Auto Stop is depressed,

> once one has depressed Clear, the displayed data commences flowing again.

>

> 1:1 (Normal) button

> -------------------

> 3. A. When the 1:1 (Normal) button has been depressed the displayed data

> is cleared. This was a surprise and I lost a good fax. g> I won't argue

> whether should happen, just noting it. Was a bit frustrating though.

> B. When it has been toggled On the screen slider/cursor on the right

> side of the whole window covers information and buttons in the upper

> right control panel.

> C. With the 1:1 (Normal) button depressed I have scrolled the screen,

> using the window slider on the right, to display the waterfall at the

> top and much of the display area. Pushing a Slant correction button

> causes the whole of the window to suddenly shift to display the top part

> of the window.

> - this was startling

> - one may lose see the effect of the correction/input

> - the next button press in a series of intended inputs is no longer on

> the button/control one intended to push. This might cause an

> unintentional operator error.

> - in this mode I can't scroll the whole of the screen with my wheel

> mouse (as one might in a web browser or many other apps).

>

> This isn't necessarily desired, however in it's absence (and as the Page

> Down/Up buttons also have no affect) one is required to use the right

> hand window slider or click in it's area to move the screen.

>

> Thank you again for a very interesting application.

>

> Salute es 73, John

>

> VA7OTC Victoria BC

> VE0JD J.D. Erskine

>

>

>

>

---------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>







----------------------------

#8875 Feb 1, 2010

Patrick Lindecker wrote: > Hello John,

>

> RR for all and TKS for remarks.



You're welcome.

>> Stop Tone

> It is based on a 5 seconds duration which is the standard. The decoding

> duration of the 450 Hz is one second. It is a good compromise (perhaps not

> the best but...).



Ah, good. I was concerned from the description in the documentation that

it was expecting the tone to be 5 seconds. I'm still not seeing reliable

decoding of this though.

>> Auto Stop button

>> 2. I noted that once one has pushed the Auto Stop button one must cycle

>> it each time a new fax is to be received manually. Is this intended or

>> necessary? What might the rationale be?

> It is not normal. It is a bug. I will fix this so as be able to start a new

> reception even if the Auto Stop is pushed, but the Synchro button is also

> pushed or the Clear button has been pushed.



Thank you for the feedback. Yes, ran into a similar instance today of

conflict with these. Could not Clear the screen with the Synchro button

engaged.

>> 1:1 (Normal) button

>> 3. A. When the 1:1 (Normal) button has been depressed the displayed data

> Yes there is a reinitialization (as a different mode).



Thanks.

>> B. When it has been toggled On the screen slider/cursor on the right

>> side of the whole window covers information and buttons in the upper

>> right control panel.

> Yes I know. Not very nice. The solution would be to create a specific window

> for fax, but I have many other things to see.



Heh, certainly. Hmm, have as large a screen below, yet allow it to slide

under the control area? Slider / Mouse scroll below control panel? Ideas

for all the spare time available.

>> C. With the 1:1 (Normal) button depressed I have scrolled the screen,

> You must scroll to adjust the slant once at the beginning. It is supposed

> not to move afterwards. The general scroll of all the picture is not

> expected in fax (but it is in SSTV).



Hmm. I'm getting image drift during the capture. Had 7.4 / and still

some slide to right, then incrementing that to 7.5 / and have the same

drift to the left.

> Note: Multipsk is a multi mode, so each mode is basically decoded. It exists

> specialized softs, as WEFAX for example, with many possibilities.

>

> 73

> Patrick



True enough. I haven't really investigated many. Several I've read about

are DOS. I actually came to MulitPSK when I was originally looking for a

Windows based app I might decode NAVTEX with.



Thanks again. Much appreciated.



73, John

VA7OTC/VE0JD



----------------------------

#8877 Feb 2, 2010

RR John,



I fixed (in my local test version) the Auto Stop button bug which was a true

bug.



73

Patrick

----- Original Message -----

From: "VA7OTC JD Erskine" va7otc@...>

To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:18 PM

Subject: Re: [multipsk] HF Fax Auto Stop tone/button behaviour. Other FAX

questions.





> Patrick Lindecker wrote:

>> Hello John,

>>

>> RR for all and TKS for remarks.

>

> You're welcome.

>

>>> Stop Tone

>> It is based on a 5 seconds duration which is the standard. The decoding

>> duration of the 450 Hz is one second. It is a good compromise (perhaps

>> not

>> the best but...).

>

> Ah, good. I was concerned from the description in the documentation that

> it was expecting the tone to be 5 seconds. I'm still not seeing reliable

> decoding of this though.

>

>>> Auto Stop button

>>> 2. I noted that once one has pushed the Auto Stop button one must cycle

>>> it each time a new fax is to be received manually. Is this intended or

>>> necessary? What might the rationale be?

>> It is not normal. It is a bug. I will fix this so as be able to start a

>> new

>> reception even if the Auto Stop is pushed, but the Synchro button is also

>> pushed or the Clear button has been pushed.

>

> Thank you for the feedback. Yes, ran into a similar instance today of

> conflict with these. Could not Clear the screen with the Synchro button

> engaged.

>

>>> 1:1 (Normal) button

>>> 3. A. When the 1:1 (Normal) button has been depressed the displayed data

>> Yes there is a reinitialization (as a different mode).

>

> Thanks.

>

>>> B. When it has been toggled On the screen slider/cursor on the right

>>> side of the whole window covers information and buttons in the upper

>>> right control panel.

>> Yes I know. Not very nice. The solution would be to create a specific

>> window

>> for fax, but I have many other things to see.

>

> Heh, certainly. Hmm, have as large a screen below, yet allow it to slide

> under the control area? Slider / Mouse scroll below control panel? Ideas

> for all the spare time available.

>

>>> C. With the 1:1 (Normal) button depressed I have scrolled the screen,

>> You must scroll to adjust the slant once at the beginning. It is supposed

>> not to move afterwards. The general scroll of all the picture is not

>> expected in fax (but it is in SSTV).

>

> Hmm. I'm getting image drift during the capture. Had 7.4 / and still

> some slide to right, then incrementing that to 7.5 / and have the same

> drift to the left.

>

>> Note: Multipsk is a multi mode, so each mode is basically decoded. It

>> exists

>> specialized softs, as WEFAX for example, with many possibilities.

>>

>> 73

>> Patrick

>

> True enough. I haven't really investigated many. Several I've read about

> are DOS. I actually came to MulitPSK when I was originally looking for a

> Windows based app I might decode NAVTEX with.

>

> Thanks again. Much appreciated.

>

> 73, John

> VA7OTC/VE0JD

>

>

>

---------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>







----------------------------

#8879 Feb 2, 2010

Patrick Lindecker wrote: > RR John,

>

> I fixed (in my local test version) the Auto Stop button bug which was a true

> bug.

>

> 73

> Patrick



Thank you Patrick! Glad we found and handled that one.

The strength of many, eh? grin>

> ----- Original Message -----

snip >>>> Auto Stop button

>>>> 2. I noted that once one has pushed the Auto Stop button one must cycle

>>>> it each time a new fax is to be received manually. Is this intended or

>>>> necessary? What might the rationale be?

>>> It is not normal. It is a bug. I will fix this so as be able to start a

>>> new

>>> reception even if the Auto Stop is pushed, but the Synchro button is also

>>> pushed or the Clear button has been pushed.



>> Thank you for the feedback. Yes, ran into a similar instance today of

>> conflict with these. Could not Clear the screen with the Synchro button

>> engaged.



Is that related to the last effect I noted?



Wonder what gets locked in with different conditions.



73, John



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#9668 Aug 26, 2010

Hi all.

I've two questions ?

The first is about JT65.

If I receive two signals in the same minute and both are into the jt65 bandwidth, which of them does multipsk decode ? Is there a sort of rule or logic in these cases ?

The second question is about logbook again.

I'm not able to automatically fit the logbook with locator, name, rst : do I have to do it manually ?

Good night and 73

Ugo, swl1281ve



----------------------------

#9669 Aug 27, 2010

Hello Ugo,

> If I receive two signals in the same minute and both are into the jt65

> bandwidth, which of them does multipsk decode ? Is there a sort of rule or

> logic in these cases ?

In presence of two JT65 in the bandwidth, the strongest in term of S/N

(signal to noise ratio) is selected (there is always a strongest, they can't

be exactly at the same S/N). Now it exists a software (I don't remember the

name) which is capable to display all the JT65 transmissions in the

bandwidth.

> I'm not able to automatically fit the logbook with locator, name, rst : do

> I have to do it manually ?

If you use DXKeeper, there is a way to import data. From the manual:

Clicking on the "Look-up DXK" button, the program searches in the DXKeeper

(version 8.4.9 or more) data base the pieces of informations relative to the

call displayed in the field "CALL" and, if found, fills the fields "NAME",

"QTH" and "Locator" with the information found (if exists).



If you use the Multipsk logbook. From the manual:

Clicking on the "Search" button, the program searches among the last 200

(3000 in licencied version) QSO's of the logbook (or all QSO's in licencied

version), the pieces of informations relative to the call displayed in the

field "CALL" and, if found, fills the fields "NAME", "QTH", "WKG" and

"NOTES" with the information found (if exists).



If the call has been found, it is displayed "In the log book". Reversely,

nothing is displayed.



73

Patrick

----- Original Message -----

From: "Ugo" ugo.depolo@...>

To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:40 PM

Subject: [multipsk] two questions about multipsk





> Hi all.

> I've two questions ?

> The first is about JT65.

> If I receive two signals in the same minute and both are into the jt65

> bandwidth, which of them does multipsk decode ? Is there a sort of rule or

> logic in these cases ?

> The second question is about logbook again.

> I'm not able to automatically fit the logbook with locator, name, rst : do

> I have to do it manually ?

> Good night and 73

> Ugo, swl1281ve

>

>

---------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>



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#9670 Aug 27, 2010

WSJT allows the user to receive all the signals in the bandwidth but not automatically, you have to click on the graphic display for the extra information. JT65-HF allows automatic display of all signals received within a specified bandwidth

Andy K3UK

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Patrick Lindecker f6cte@...> wrote:

.Hello Ugo,



> If I receive two signals in the same minute and both are into the jt65

> bandwidth, which of them does multipsk decode ? Is there a sort of rule or

> logic in these cases ?

In presence of two JT65 in the bandwidth, the strongest in term of S/N

(signal to noise ratio) is selected (there is always a strongest, they can't

be exactly at the same S/N). Now it exists a software (I don't remember the

name) which is capable to display all the JT65 transmissions in the

bandwidth.



> I'm not able to automatically fit the logbook with locator, name, rst : do

> I have to do it manually ?

If you use DXKeeper, there is a way to import data. From the manual:

Clicking on the "Look-up DXK" button, the program searches in the DXKeeper

(version 8.4.9 or more) data base the pieces of informations relative to the

call displayed in the field "CALL" and, if found, fills the fields "NAME",

"QTH" and "Locator" with the information found (if exists).



If you use the Multipsk logbook. From the manual:

Clicking on the "Search" button, the program searches among the last 200

(3000 in licencied version) QSO's of the logbook (or all QSO's in licencied

version), the pieces of informations relative to the call displayed in the

field "CALL" and, if found, fills the fields "NAME", "QTH", "WKG" and

"NOTES" with the information found (if exists).



If the call has been found, it is displayed "In the log book". Reversely,

nothing is displayed.



73

Patrick



----- Original Message -----

From: "Ugo" ugo.depolo@...>

To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:40 PM

Subject: [multipsk] two questions about multipsk



> Hi all.

> I've two questions ?

> The first is about JT65.

> If I receive two signals in the same minute and both are into the jt65

> bandwidth, which of them does multipsk decode ? Is there a sort of rule or

> logic in these cases ?

> The second question is about logbook again.

> I'm not able to automatically fit the logbook with locator, name, rst : do

> I have to do it manually ?

> Good night and 73

> Ugo, swl1281ve

>

>

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>

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#9986 Nov 9, 2010

Hi Patrick,





As you might know I like to listen for GMDSS/DSC signals and especially

for DX signals on the 2187.5 kHz channel.



When checking the decodes I noticed some slight differences in the way

the results are presented.



The best case is certainly like this:



Selective call to a particular individual station>

Called MMSI station address: 355152000 [Ship]

Category: Safety

MMSI self-identifier: 004122100 [Coast station: Shanghai MRCC Shanghai/MRCC China] (China)

Telecommand 1: Test

Telecommand 2: No information

Neither RX/TX frequencies nor position supplied

Check Sum: OK

Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 18:51:00





Here it's clear that everything is fine because it says "Check Sum: OK".

So for me this is a 100% valid decode that I can put in my log.



On weaker or disturbed signals I sometimes get "Check Sum: Error" so I

guess I should skip those decodes and will not put them in my log.



Example:



Selective call to a particular individual station>

Called MMSI station address: 004030000 [Coast station: Jeddah RCC Jeddah] (Saudi Arabia)

Category: Safety

MMSI self-identifier: 374912000 [Ship]

Telecommand 1: Test

Telecommand 2: No information

Neither RX/TX frequencies nor position supplied

Check Sum: error

Date and time of decoding: 08/11/2010 21:51:44





But there are other cases when the "Check Sum" line doesn't appear at

all. How shall I count these decodes? Are they good, or are the bad?



Example - and this would be a really great log if it was for real:



Selective call to a particular individual station>

Called MMSI station address: 003669994 [Coast station: Guam (Marianas) MRCC Honolulu/MRCC Alameda] (USA)

Category: Safety

MMSI self-identifier: 003669994 [Coast station: Guam (Marianas) MRCC Honolulu/MRCC Alameda] (USA)

Telecommand 1: Test

Telecommand 2: No information

Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 19:42:14





Any information and comments welcome!





--

vy 73 + gd DX,



Michael





RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus

Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip

Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49.15' E 8.07' / Locator JN49BF



ENDBH & NANDBH editor



ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com



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#9987 Nov 9, 2010

Hello Michael,

>Telecommand 2: No information

>Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 19:42:14



It means that the decoding has not reached the Check sum (an error occurs

before). So it is incomplete.



Would you prefer some message indicating that the decoding has failed?



73

Patrick





-----Message d'origine-----

De.: multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] De la part

de Michael Oexner

Envoy..: mardi 9 novembre 2010 22:48

..: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

Objet.: [multipsk] GMDSS/DSC questions



Hi Patrick,





As you might know I like to listen for GMDSS/DSC signals and especially

for DX signals on the 2187.5 kHz channel.



When checking the decodes I noticed some slight differences in the way

the results are presented.



The best case is certainly like this:



Selective call to a particular individual station>

Called MMSI station address: 355152000 [Ship]

Category: Safety

MMSI self-identifier: 004122100 [Coast station: Shanghai MRCC Shanghai/MRCC

China] (China)

Telecommand 1: Test

Telecommand 2: No information

Neither RX/TX frequencies nor position supplied

Check Sum: OK

Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 18:51:00





Here it's clear that everything is fine because it says "Check Sum: OK".

So for me this is a 100% valid decode that I can put in my log.



On weaker or disturbed signals I sometimes get "Check Sum: Error" so I

guess I should skip those decodes and will not put them in my log.



Example:



Selective call to a particular individual station>

Called MMSI station address: 004030000 [Coast station: Jeddah RCC Jeddah]

(Saudi Arabia)

Category: Safety

MMSI self-identifier: 374912000 [Ship]

Telecommand 1: Test

Telecommand 2: No information

Neither RX/TX frequencies nor position supplied

Check Sum: error

Date and time of decoding: 08/11/2010 21:51:44





But there are other cases when the "Check Sum" line doesn't appear at

all. How shall I count these decodes? Are they good, or are the bad?



Example - and this would be a really great log if it was for real:



Selective call to a particular individual station>

Called MMSI station address: 003669994 [Coast station: Guam (Marianas) MRCC

Honolulu/MRCC Alameda] (USA)

Category: Safety

MMSI self-identifier: 003669994 [Coast station: Guam (Marianas) MRCC

Honolulu/MRCC Alameda] (USA)

Telecommand 1: Test

Telecommand 2: No information

Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 19:42:14





Any information and comments welcome!





--

vy 73 + gd DX,



Michael





RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus

Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip

Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49.15' E 8.07' / Locator JN49BF



ENDBH & NANDBH editor



ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com









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#9988 Nov 10, 2010

Bonsoir Patrick,



>>Telecommand 2: No information

>>Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 19:42:14



> It means that the decoding has not reached the Check sum (an error

> occurs before). So it is incomplete.



It is incomplete, but would you say that the parts that were decoded

were okay? The called MMSI number makes sense, and also the MMSI self

identifier. So I guess I can claim I've logged Guam on 2 MHz?! That

would be magnifique :-)



Yesterday evening I got another astonishing DX log on 2187.5 kHz:



Selective call to a particular individual station>

Called MMSI station address: 636013704 [Ship] (Liberia)

Category: Safety

MMSI self-identifier: 005671000 [Coast station: Bangkok (Nonthaburi) RCC Bangkok] (Thailand)

Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 21:18:52



This is an even shorter decode compared to the other messages, but still

what was decoded makes sense. The vessel is the MSC Mahima and a few

days ago it was cruising in the waters of the Singapore strait, so a

contact with Bangkok on 2 MHz seems very likely.



See:

www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?oldmmsi=636013704&zoom=10&olddate=11/6/2010%2011:35:26%20PM>



> Would you prefer some message indicating that the decoding has failed?



No, not really, please just leave it as it is.





--

vy 73 + gd DX,



Michael



----------------------------

#9989 Nov 10, 2010

Hello Michael,

>It is incomplete, but would you say that the parts that were decoded

>were okay? The called MMSI number makes sense, and also the MMSI self

>identifier. So I guess I can claim I've logged Guam on 2 MHz?! That

>would be magnifique :-)

Sorry but you can't claim it as you are not sure because the CRC has not

been received.

It's perhaps true perhaps not (an answer from a person from Normandie as we

say here :-) ).



Could you send me a .WAV record file (use Multipsk for this) with such

reception without CRC. There is perhaps a bug or a default.



>what was decoded makes sense. The vessel is the MSC Mahima and a few

>days ago it was cruising in the waters of the Singapore strait, so a

>contact with Bangkok on 2 MHz seems very likely.

Also perhaps true perhaps not.



Thanks

Patrick



-----Message d'origine-----

De.: multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] De la part

de Michael Oexner

Envoy..: mercredi 10 novembre 2010 21:00

..: Patrick Lindecker

Objet.: Re: [multipsk] GMDSS/DSC questions



Bonsoir Patrick,



>>Telecommand 2: No information

>>Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 19:42:14



> It means that the decoding has not reached the Check sum (an error

> occurs before). So it is incomplete.



It is incomplete, but would you say that the parts that were decoded

were okay? The called MMSI number makes sense, and also the MMSI self

identifier. So I guess I can claim I've logged Guam on 2 MHz?! That

would be magnifique :-)



Yesterday evening I got another astonishing DX log on 2187.5 kHz:



Selective call to a particular individual station>

Called MMSI station address: 636013704 [Ship] (Liberia)

Category: Safety

MMSI self-identifier: 005671000 [Coast station: Bangkok (Nonthaburi) RCC

Bangkok] (Thailand)

Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 21:18:52



This is an even shorter decode compared to the other messages, but still

what was decoded makes sense. The vessel is the MSC Mahima and a few

days ago it was cruising in the waters of the Singapore strait, so a

contact with Bangkok on 2 MHz seems very likely.



See:

www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?oldmmsi=636013704&zoom=10&old

date=11/6/2010%2011:35:26%20PM>



> Would you prefer some message indicating that the decoding has failed?



No, not really, please just leave it as it is.





--

vy 73 + gd DX,



Michael









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Yahoo! Groups Links



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#9990 Nov 10, 2010

Hello Patrick,



> Sorry but you can't claim it as you are not sure because the CRC has

> not been received.



Okay, I see what you mean.



> It's perhaps true perhaps not (an answer from a person from Normandie

> as we say here :-) ).



;-)



> Could you send me a .WAV record file (use Multipsk for this) with such

> reception without CRC. There is perhaps a bug or a default.



I wasn't recording at that time, neither with MultiPSK nor with my

Perseus, otherwise I would gladly provide you with a recording.



I will write to the stations and ask them if they were transmitting at

that time and will let you know of any positive or negative response.

Conditions towards Asia were quite good yesterday evening as I received

three 100% complete decodes from Shanghai Radio.





--

vy 73 + gd DX,



Michael







----------------------------

#9991 Nov 10, 2010

On 09/Nov/10 13:47, Michael Oexner wrote:

snip

> Example - and this would be a really great log if it was for real:

>

> Selective call to a particular individual station>

> Called MMSI station address: 003669994 [Coast station: Guam (Marianas) MRCC Honolulu/MRCC Alameda] (USA)

> Category: Safety

> MMSI self-identifier: 003669994 [Coast station: Guam (Marianas) MRCC Honolulu/MRCC Alameda] (USA)

> Telecommand 1: Test

> Telecommand 2: No information

> Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 19:42:14



> Any information and comments welcome!



Hi Michael,



Exciting stuff. You're quite lucky to be well positioned and apparently

have an effective antenna.



Your Liberian catch checks out, ship and coast:

www.itu.int/online/mms/mars/ship_search.sh

www.itu.int/online/mms/mars/coast_search.sh



That others don't doesn't mean they're incorrect, however ITU won't tell

me/us about them. Perhaps the ITU list is very restricted in

classification of Coast Station, or the administration didn't submit

them as several of those MMSIs didn't give a return there. A quick look

at the complete CHN listing didn't have any 004122xxx only 004123xxx. Hmm.



I'm not going on a big search and no doubt you've looked elsewhere for

confirmation. Okay, I broke down grin> and found this, though hardly

official: www.kloth.net/radio/dsc.php

it shows a number of 121 122 and 123 stations. Hmm.

Also loggings at shortwavemonitor.com/ (Ctl+F using 00412)



I also found their MMSI in an Australian Notice to Mariners which will

satisfy me hydro.gov.au/n2m/2007/edition_3_123-177.pdf

hydro.gov.au/n2m/notices.htm

There I conducted a simple search with the term MMSI, for a return of 19

hits. That gives me confidence in the Guam listing.



---

The exchange I quote looks a bit funny as in the others the Called and

Self Identifier MMSIs are different, as in an exchange, ("Hullo you,

this is, me, Over"). This one has both fields with the same MMSI.



That alone has me wonder at how the DSC string is interpreted, or if in

this case there was some finger trouble by the operators there.



73, John

--

J.D. Erskine

Victoria, BC

VA7OTC/VE0JD

CN88hk NA036



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#10025 Nov 28, 2010

---------------

From: "Michael Oexner" michael.oexner@...>

Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:47 PM

To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: [multipsk] GMDSS/DSC questions

> Hi Patrick,

>

>

> As you might know I like to listen for GMDSS/DSC signals and especially

> for DX signals on the 2187.5 kHz channel.

>

> When checking the decodes I noticed some slight differences in the way

> the results are presented.

>

> The best case is certainly like this:

>

> Selective call to a particular individual station>

> Called MMSI station address: 355152000 [Ship]

> Category: Safety

> MMSI self-identifier: 004122100 [Coast station: Shanghai MRCC

> Shanghai/MRCC China] (China)

> Telecommand 1: Test

> Telecommand 2: No information

> Neither RX/TX frequencies nor position supplied

> Check Sum: OK

> Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 18:51:00

>

>

> Here it's clear that everything is fine because it says "Check Sum: OK".

> So for me this is a 100% valid decode that I can put in my log.

>

> On weaker or disturbed signals I sometimes get "Check Sum: Error" so I

> guess I should skip those decodes and will not put them in my log.

>

> Example:

>

> Selective call to a particular individual station>

> Called MMSI station address: 004030000 [Coast station: Jeddah RCC Jeddah]

> (Saudi Arabia)

> Category: Safety

> MMSI self-identifier: 374912000 [Ship]

> Telecommand 1: Test

> Telecommand 2: No information

> Neither RX/TX frequencies nor position supplied

> Check Sum: error

> Date and time of decoding: 08/11/2010 21:51:44

>

>

> But there are other cases when the "Check Sum" line doesn't appear at

> all. How shall I count these decodes? Are they good, or are the bad?

>

> Example - and this would be a really great log if it was for real:

>

> Selective call to a particular individual station>

> Called MMSI station address: 003669994 [Coast station: Guam (Marianas)

> MRCC Honolulu/MRCC Alameda] (USA)

> Category: Safety

> MMSI self-identifier: 003669994 [Coast station: Guam (Marianas) MRCC

> Honolulu/MRCC Alameda] (USA)

> Telecommand 1: Test

> Telecommand 2: No information

> Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 19:42:14

>

>

> Any information and comments welcome!

>

>

> --

> vy 73 + gd DX,

>

> Michael

>

>

> RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus

> Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip

> Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49.15' E 8.07' / Locator JN49BF

>

> ENDBH & NANDBH editor

>

> ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com

>

>

>

>

---------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>







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#10027 Nov 28, 2010

Jan,



I answered some time after the question.



73

Patrick



-----Message d'origine-----

De.: multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] De la part

de Jan Kraak

Envoy..: dimanche 28 novembre 2010 19:40

..: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

Objet.: Re: [multipsk] GMDSS/DSC questions







---------------

From: "Michael Oexner" michael.oexner@...>

Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:47 PM

To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: [multipsk] GMDSS/DSC questions

> Hi Patrick,

>

>

> As you might know I like to listen for GMDSS/DSC signals and especially

> for DX signals on the 2187.5 kHz channel.

>

> When checking the decodes I noticed some slight differences in the way

> the results are presented.

>

> The best case is certainly like this:

>

> Selective call to a particular individual station>

> Called MMSI station address: 355152000 [Ship]

> Category: Safety

> MMSI self-identifier: 004122100 [Coast station: Shanghai MRCC

> Shanghai/MRCC China] (China)

> Telecommand 1: Test

> Telecommand 2: No information

> Neither RX/TX frequencies nor position supplied

> Check Sum: OK

> Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 18:51:00

>

>

> Here it's clear that everything is fine because it says "Check Sum: OK".

> So for me this is a 100% valid decode that I can put in my log.

>

> On weaker or disturbed signals I sometimes get "Check Sum: Error" so I

> guess I should skip those decodes and will not put them in my log.

>

> Example:

>

> Selective call to a particular individual station>

> Called MMSI station address: 004030000 [Coast station: Jeddah RCC Jeddah]

> (Saudi Arabia)

> Category: Safety

> MMSI self-identifier: 374912000 [Ship]

> Telecommand 1: Test

> Telecommand 2: No information

> Neither RX/TX frequencies nor position supplied

> Check Sum: error

> Date and time of decoding: 08/11/2010 21:51:44

>

>

> But there are other cases when the "Check Sum" line doesn't appear at

> all. How shall I count these decodes? Are they good, or are the bad?

>

> Example - and this would be a really great log if it was for real:

>

> Selective call to a particular individual station>

> Called MMSI station address: 003669994 [Coast station: Guam (Marianas)

> MRCC Honolulu/MRCC Alameda] (USA)

> Category: Safety

> MMSI self-identifier: 003669994 [Coast station: Guam (Marianas) MRCC

> Honolulu/MRCC Alameda] (USA)

> Telecommand 1: Test

> Telecommand 2: No information

> Date and time of decoding: 09/11/2010 19:42:14

>

>

> Any information and comments welcome!

>

>

> --

> vy 73 + gd DX,

>

> Michael

>

>

> RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus

> Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip

> Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49.15' E 8.07' / Locator JN49BF

>

> ENDBH & NANDBH editor

>

> ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com

>

>

>

>

---------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>





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#12729 Feb 15, 2012

I have a couple of questions about maritime monitoring.

1. After listening to GMDSS traffic I see most are "Safety" messages. What are these?.

2. In the lower 6 and 8 MHz bands there are many digital broadcasts that appear to be polling related. They have a morse ID of WLO. What mode can I use to decode these broadcasts and is there a trick to doing this as I have been unable to do so far?.

Thanks,

Bob WC0D



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#12732 Feb 15, 2012

Hi Bob,



WLO is probably going to be SITOR, but 90% of the time what you'll be

hearing is the idle tone, which won't decode anything.

Every now and then messages come through... here's an example sitor

message recently decoded:



ZCZC FA48

UNCLASSIFIED//

MSGID/GBNAF_I_/NGA NAVSAFET_ DC//

RMKS/

HYDROLANT 174/12(24).

BRAZIL-SOUTH COAST.

MAN OVERBOARD VICINITY 24-25.6S 045-26.6W

AT 211343Z JAN. VESSELS IN VICINITY REQUESTED

TO KEEP A SHARP LOOKOUT, ASSIST IF POSSIBLE.



REPORTS TO ANY COASTAL RADIO STA.//

0214



NNNN



They can be quite interesting...



WLO also has a really awesome SITOR+RTTY news feed on 8473KHz

They also publish all their sitor frequencies on the website:



www.shipcom.com/frequencies.html

www.eham.net/articles/26659



Have Fun!



73's,

John S.

WA9147SWL







On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:11:16 -0000

"wc0d" rfay@...> wrote:

> I have a couple of questions about maritime monitoring.

> 1. After listening to GMDSS traffic I see most are "Safety" messages.

> What are these?. 2. In the lower 6 and 8 MHz bands there are many

> digital broadcasts that appear to be polling related. They have a

> morse ID of WLO. What mode can I use to decode these broadcasts and

> is there a trick to doing this as I have been unable to do so far?.

> Thanks, Bob WC0D

>

>

>

---------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>







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#12735 Feb 15, 2012

Are these what used to be called "securite" priority like for hazards to navigation, unusual wave activity (e.g. "rogue waves"), impaired maneuvering ability (rudder problems) ?

--- On Wed, 2/15/12, John Sennesael john@...> wrote:

From: John Sennesael john@...>Subject: Re: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questionsTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 2:46 PM

 Hi Bob,

WLO is probably going to be SITOR, but 90% of the time what you'll behearing is the idle tone, which won't decode anything.Every now and then messages come through... here's an example sitormessage recently decoded:

ZCZC FA48UNCLASSIFIED// MSGID/GBNAF_I_/NGA NAVSAFET_ DC// RMKS/ HYDROLANT 174/12(24). BRAZIL-SOUTH COAST. MAN OVERBOARD VICINITY 24-25.6S 045-26.6W AT 211343Z JAN. VESSELS IN VICINITY REQUESTED TO KEEP A SHARP LOOKOUT, ASSIST IF POSSIBLE.

REPORTS TO ANY COASTAL RADIO STA.// 0214

NNNN

They can be quite interesting...

WLO also has a really awesome SITOR+RTTY news feed on 8473KHzThey also publish all their sitor frequencies on the website:

www.shipcom.com/frequencies.htmlwww.eham.net/articles/26659

Have Fun!

73's,John S.WA9147SWL

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:11:16 -0000"wc0d" rfay@...> wrote:

> I have a couple of questions about maritime monitoring.> 1. After listening to GMDSS traffic I see most are "Safety" messages.> What are these?. 2. In the lower 6 and 8 MHz bands there are many> digital broadcasts that appear to be polling related. They have a> morse ID of WLO. What mode can I use to decode these broadcasts and> is there a trick to doing this as I have been unable to do so far?.> Thanks, Bob WC0D> > > ---------------> > Yahoo! Groups Links> > >



----------------------------

#12736 Feb 15, 2012

It sure sounds like it to me. Could also be "PAHN PAHN" (pawn pawn). I haven't used either one in 20 years!Hugh AC7XFSent on the Sprint. Now Network from my BlackBerry.

From: Ron Straub straub_ronald@...>Sender: multipsk@yahoogroups.comDate: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:04:11 -0800 (PST)To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com>ReplyTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questions

Are these what used to be called "securite" priority like for hazards to navigation, unusual wave activity (e.g. "rogue waves"), impaired maneuvering ability (rudder problems) ?

--- On Wed, 2/15/12, John Sennesael john@...> wrote:

From: John Sennesael john@...>Subject: Re: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questionsTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 2:46 PM

 Hi Bob,

WLO is probably going to be SITOR, but 90% of the time what you'll behearing is the idle tone, which won't decode anything.Every now and then messages come through... here's an example sitormessage recently decoded:

ZCZC FA48UNCLASSIFIED// MSGID/GBNAF_I_/NGA NAVSAFET_ DC// RMKS/ HYDROLANT 174/12(24). BRAZIL-SOUTH COAST. MAN OVERBOARD VICINITY 24-25.6S 045-26.6W AT 211343Z JAN. VESSELS IN VICINITY REQUESTED TO KEEP A SHARP LOOKOUT, ASSIST IF POSSIBLE.

REPORTS TO ANY COASTAL RADIO STA.// 0214

NNNN

They can be quite interesting...

WLO also has a really awesome SITOR+RTTY news feed on 8473KHzThey also publish all their sitor frequencies on the website:

www.shipcom.com/frequencies.htmlwww.eham.net/articles/26659

Have Fun!

73's,John S.WA9147SWL

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:11:16 -0000"wc0d" rfay@...> wrote:

> I have a couple of questions about maritime monitoring.> 1. After listening to GMDSS traffic I see most are "Safety" messages.> What are these?. 2. In the lower 6 and 8 MHz bands there are many> digital broadcasts that appear to be polling related. They have a> morse ID of WLO. What mode can I use to decode these broadcasts and> is there a trick to doing this as I have been unable to do so far?.> Thanks, Bob WC0D> > > ---------------> > Yahoo! Groups Links> > >



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#12737 Feb 15, 2012

I think you.ll find it would be PAN PAN PAN   which meansPossible Assistance Needed.  

Sentfrom my HP computer.

John deVK2XGJYou're all jealous because the voicesonly speak tome!

 From: Hugh Mac DonaldSent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:19 AMTo: MultipskSubject: Re: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questions



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#12738 Feb 15, 2012

It is normally PAN-PAN  The levels are as followsMAYDAY – Lives are in dangerPAN – Urgency but no lives in dangerSECURITE – Safety Issues  Fred W4JLE  

From:multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Hugh Mac Donald

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 20125:19 PM

To: Multipsk

Subject: Re: [multipsk] Maritimetraffic questions

   It suresounds like it to me. Could also be "PAHN PAHN" (pawn pawn). Ihaven't used either one in 20 years!

Hugh AC7XFSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®



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#12739 Feb 15, 2012

Whoops, left off the third PAN  

From:multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dr Fred Hambrecht

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 20126:07 PM

To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [multipsk] Maritimetraffic questions

   It is normally PAN-PAN  The levels are as followsMAYDAY – Lives are in dangerPAN – Urgency but no lives in dangerSECURITE – Safety Issues  Fred W4JLE  

From: multipsk@yahoogroups.com[mailto: multipsk@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Hugh Mac Donald

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 20125:19 PM

To: Multipsk

Subject: Re: [multipsk] Maritimetraffic questions

   It suresounds like it to me. Could also be "PAHN PAHN" (pawn pawn). Ihaven't used either one in 20 years!

Hugh AC7XFSent on theSprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®







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#12740 Feb 15, 2012

Hi Bob, If the GMDSS message is described as Safety . it is a Safety Test Message .transmitted to the shore station and acknowledged by the shore station. GMDSS messages where there is a problem at sea will display .DISTRESS. inthis position Regards,Mike SimpsonPenrith, NSW, Australiawww.rstools.info From: wc0dSent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:11 AMTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questions



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#12741 Feb 15, 2012

Ah. Thanks for the clarification,, Mike.

--- On Wed, 2/15/12, Mike Simpson agene@...> wrote:



From: Mike Simpson agene@...>Subject: Re: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questionsTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 6:18 PM

 Hi Bob, If the GMDSS message is described as Safety . it is a Safety Test Message . transmitted to the shore station and acknowledged by the shore station. GMDSS messages where there is a problem at sea will display .DISTRESS. in this position Regards, Mike SimpsonPenrith, NSW, Australiawww.rstools.info From: wc0dSent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:11 AMTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questions



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#12742 Feb 15, 2012

Yeah, that's how I remember it. Didn't know the letters were an acronym; just interpreted as 'I'm scared. Please standby ready to assist.'

--- On Wed, 2/15/12, John Simon jrsimon@...> wrote:



From: John Simon jrsimon@...>Subject: Re: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questionsTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 6:03 PM

 I think you.ll find it would be PAN PAN PAN   which means Possible Assistance Needed.  

Sent from my HP computer.

John de VK2XGJYou're all jealous because the voicesonly speak to me!

 From: Hugh Mac DonaldSent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:19 AMTo: MultipskSubject: Re: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questions



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#12743 Feb 15, 2012

I have actually used the term in real life. The word is French and is pronounced like the word "pawn". When used it is pan pan, pan pan, pan pan, DE callsign. ( Nature of traffic) in my case no contact with Manila Center and having to fly 80 NMI off track for WX. LOLHughSent on the Sprint. Now Network from my BlackBerry.

From: "Dr Fred Hambrecht" w4jle@...>Sender: multipsk@yahoogroups.comDate: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:16:20 -0500To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com>ReplyTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questions

Whoops, left off the third PAN  

From:multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dr Fred Hambrecht

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 20126:07 PM

To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [multipsk] Maritimetraffic questions

   It is normally PAN-PAN  The levels are as followsMAYDAY – Lives are in dangerPAN – Urgency but no lives in dangerSECURITE – Safety Issues  Fred W4JLE  

From: multipsk@yahoogroups.com[mailto: multipsk@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Hugh Mac Donald

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 20125:19 PM

To: Multipsk

Subject: Re: [multipsk] Maritimetraffic questions

   It suresounds like it to me. Could also be "PAHN PAHN" (pawn pawn). Ihaven't used either one in 20 years!

Hugh AC7XFSent on theSprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®



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#12744 Feb 15, 2012

Never used PAN, but the only time I heardMAYDAY, I was saying it. Lost both engines on a Learjet at FL430 on top of athunderstorm. Got really interesting for a while.  Fred W4JLE  

From:multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Mac Donald

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 20126:54 PM

To: Multipsk

Subject: Re: [multipsk] Maritimetraffic questions

   I haveactually used the term in real life. The word is French and is pronounced likethe word "pawn". When used it is pan pan, pan pan, pan pan, DEcallsign. ( Nature of traffic) in my case no contact withManila Centerand having to fly 80 NMI off track for WX. LOL

HughSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®



From: "Dr FredHambrecht" w4jle@...>

Sender: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 15 Feb2012 18:16:20 -0500

To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com>

ReplyTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE:[multipsk] Maritime traffic questions

 

Whoops, left off the third PAN  

From: multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto: multipsk@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Dr Fred Hambrecht

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 20126:07 PM

To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [multipsk] Maritimetraffic questions

   It is normally PAN-PAN  The levels are as followsMAYDAY – Lives are in dangerPAN – Urgency but no lives in dangerSECURITE – Safety Issues  Fred W4JLE  

From: multipsk@yahoogroups.com[mailto: multipsk@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Hugh Mac Donald

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 20125:19 PM

To: Multipsk

Subject: Re: [multipsk] Maritimetraffic questions

   It suresounds like it to me. Could also be "PAHN PAHN" (pawn pawn). Ihaven't used either one in 20 years!

Hugh AC7XFSent on theSprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®



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#12745 Feb 15, 2012

Altitude and airspeed. Always; altitude and airspeed. Add a notch of flaps and you're "golden".  ;>)

--- On Wed, 2/15/12, Dr Fred Hambrecht w4jle@...> wrote:

From: Dr Fred Hambrecht w4jle@...>Subject: RE: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questionsTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 7:31 PM



 Never used PAN, but the only time I heard MAYDAY, I was saying it. Lost both engines on a Learjet at FL430 on top of a thunderstorm. Got really interesting for a while.

 

Fred W4JLE

 



From: multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Mac DonaldSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 6:54 PMTo: MultipskSubject: Re: [multipsk] Maritime traffic questions







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#13551 Apr 7, 2012

Hi Multipksers,



I haven't been paying much attention to this list lately

so I apologize if these Lentus questions have been covered before.



1) I can't seem to format my latitude and longitude correctly so I

have left the locations defaults at 0. (Is this why Lentus won't transmit?)



Please, what is the correct format for the following station location? ;-)

latitude in degrees is: (North) +42.88417

longitude in degrees is: (West) -88.01298



2) As a sanity check, is there a way of immediately forcing Lentus to

transmit?

By the way, the "Tune" button does send a single tone.



3) What is the actual transmitting time for sending "Station Info",

"Metro Info"

of any of the other ones?



Thanks to all,



Dave - wb9own



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#13552 Apr 7, 2012

David,

--- In multipsk@yahoogroups.com, David Garnier dgarnier@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Multipksers,

>

> I haven't been paying much attention to this list lately

> so I apologize if these Lentus questions have been covered before.

>

> 1) I can't seem to format my latitude and longitude correctly so I

> have left the locations defaults at 0. (Is this why Lentus won't transmit?)



The latitude and longitude fields are optional. Leaving them at 0 will not inhibit transmission.



> Please, what is the correct format for the following station location? ;-)

> latitude in degrees is: (North) +42.88417

> longitude in degrees is: (West) -88.01298



The correct format my QTH as example is...



21-17.17N 157-49.26W



A quick check using one of the clickable maps for your QTH yields...



42-53.30N 88-00.37W



... or thereabouts G>



> 2) As a sanity check, is there a way of immediately forcing Lentus to

> transmit?

> By the way, the "Tune" button does send a single tone.



There is no immediate way of forcing a Lentus transmit cycle that I am aware of. The TX cycles must start on a 5-minute boundary.



> 3) What is the actual transmitting time for sending "Station Info",

> "Metro Info"

> of any of the other ones?



All transmissions utilize the full 5 minute period (minus a few seconds).



Looking forward to seeing you on Lentus.



73,



'Bear' NH7SR



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#13553 Apr 7, 2012

David,



Doh!! Forgot to mention...



In order for Lentus to transmit you must select the desired interval in Beacon or QSO mode _and_ click on one of the buttons at the left i.e., Station Info, Meteo Info., etc. Lentus will then repeatedly transmit the selected field until you select a different field (as done during a Lentus QSO) or de-select the active field by clicking on its button a second time.



73,



'Bear' NH7SR



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#13556 Apr 8, 2012

Hello to all,



For latitude and longitude, you must have two figures for latitude degrees

and 3 for longitude degrees.

Example for longitude: 083-37.50E is correct but 83-37.50E is not correct.





Here are some general hints:



1. About how modes look like

f1ult.free.fr/DIGIMODES/MULTIPSK/digimodesF6CTE_en.htm

Look at this address. You have the sound and visual identification of many

modes.

Note: the RS ID is a way to identify a mode and the transmission central

frequency (see the paper above).



2) Calibration of the sound card

It is strongly recommended to calibrate the sound-card: click on the

"Adjustments" menu button, then select the "Determination of the RX/TX

sound-card sampling frequencies" option and push on the "Determination of

the 48 KHz RX sampling frequency (test on 3 minutes)" button. At the end of

the test, click on "Return",

Note about the sound level ("Level" indication in % at the top of the

screen): an AF level superior or equal to 10 % is OK. About 50 % is ideal

(but not critical). In case of very low AF level, select "16 bits" in the

"Determination of the RX/TX sound-card sampling frequencies" option

("Adjustments" menu button),



3) About the help of Multipsk:



- To bring up the text help (contextual sensitive one), click on the right

button of the mouse, with the cursor over the mode button "KISS", for

example).

- Also use the button hints (wait a fraction of second over a button).



4) About frequencies:

Click on the button "QRG" to get all the more or less HF used frequencies.



73

Patrick





-----Message d'origine-----

De.: multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] De la part

de qrpbear

Envoy..: dimanche 8 avril 2012 06:44

..: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

Objet.: [multipsk] Re: Lentus Newbee Questions



David,

--- In multipsk@yahoogroups.com, David Garnier dgarnier@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Multipksers,

>

> I haven't been paying much attention to this list lately so I

> apologize if these Lentus questions have been covered before.

>

> 1) I can't seem to format my latitude and longitude correctly so I

> have left the locations defaults at 0. (Is this why Lentus won't

> transmit?)



The latitude and longitude fields are optional. Leaving them at 0 will not

inhibit transmission.



> Please, what is the correct format for the following station location?

> ;-) latitude in degrees is: (North) +42.88417 longitude in degrees

> is: (West) -88.01298



The correct format my QTH as example is...



21-17.17N 157-49.26W



A quick check using one of the clickable maps for your QTH yields...



42-53.30N 88-00.37W



... or thereabouts G>



> 2) As a sanity check, is there a way of immediately forcing Lentus to

> transmit?

> By the way, the "Tune" button does send a single tone.



There is no immediate way of forcing a Lentus transmit cycle that I am aware

of. The TX cycles must start on a 5-minute boundary.



> 3) What is the actual transmitting time for sending "Station Info",

> "Metro Info"

> of any of the other ones?



All transmissions utilize the full 5 minute period (minus a few seconds).



Looking forward to seeing you on Lentus.



73,



'Bear' NH7SR









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Yahoo! Groups Links







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#15623 Dec 11, 2012

We have a couple of new members with questions. One is switching to Multipsk from MixW and the other is starting to use Multipsk with a Rigblaster Advantage. Any comments from our members about these two issues ?



Andy K3UK



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#17049 Oct 12, 2013

Greetings,

I am a registered used of MultiPSK.  I have some questions about the clock program.  I am using Windows 8, a Perseus SDR, and a Wellbrook loop (suitable for 60 Hz).

1. I would like to decode the date and time fromWWVB on 60 Hz.  I have tried the radio in RTTY mode and the waterfall isat about 1360 Hz.  In AM mode the waterfall is wider than the window onthe WWVB screen.  In CW mode, I can raise the frequency to about 60.100and get pretty close to 500 Hz in the clock program, but not exactly.  What mode should I beusing on the Perseus SDR? What bandwidth?

2. How does one get the PLL to lock atexactly 500 Hz?  What portion of thewaterfall should be at 500 Hz?  I can move the red line, but not get itto exactly read 500 Hz.

3. Every now and again, some of the data will fill onto the clock screen.  However, it is always incorrect.  Many times ??? will appear.  If cheap clocks can read the information, why am I having so much problem getting a clean read of the time and date data?

I would greatly appreciate it if you can helpme with the three items listed above.

Regards,George, NJ3HStephens City, Virginia USA



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#17073 Oct 12, 2013

Hello George,  >1. I would like to decode the date and time from WWVB on 60 Hz.  I have tried the radio in RTTY mode and >the waterfall is at about 1360 Hz.  In AM mode the waterfall is wider than the window on the WWVB >screen.  InFrom the manual, you must be in LSB or USB:If MSF or WWVB is chosen, on the SSB receiver, the user adjusts the frequency to 60.5 KHz in LSB or 59.5 KHz in USB, the received sound being a 500 Hz variable carrier.>get pretty close to 500 Hz in the clock program, but not exactly. You are not supposed to be at 500 Hz strictly but at any AF frequency between 400 to 1600 Hz. However, change the HF frequency according to this AF and the direction of SSB (USB or LSB).  >2. How does one get the PLL to lock at exactly 500 Hz?  What portion of the waterfall should be at 500 Hz?  I >can move the red line, but not get it to exactly read 500 Hz.See before. There is no obligation to be strictly at 500 HZ.  >3. Every now and again, some of the data will fill onto the clock screen.  However, it is always incorrect.  Many >times ??? will appear.  If cheap clocks can read the information, why am I having so much problem getting a >clean read of the time and date data?It can appear, but normally you have a synchronization only with two successive decodings.  >If cheap clocks can read the information, why am I having so much problem getting a clean read of the time and >date data?Try a test of the sound card (First test, normally it is sufficient).  73Patrick





   De : multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] De la part de nj3h@...Envoy. : samedi 12 octobre 2013 15:51. : multipsk@yahoogroups.comObjet : [multipsk] Clock Program Questions



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#17074 Oct 12, 2013

Thanks for the prompt help.  Setting the variable bandwidth filter to about 170 Hz, using USB at 59.500 Hz did the trick.

Thanks again.

Regards,GeorgeNJ3H

On Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:16 PM, Patrick Lindecker f6cte@...> wrote:

 Hello George,  >1. I would like to decode the date and time from WWVB on 60 Hz.  I have tried the radio in RTTY mode and >the waterfall is at about 1360 Hz.  In AM mode the waterfall is wider than the window on the WWVB >screen.  InFrom the manual, you must be in LSB or USB:If MSF or WWVB is chosen, on the SSB receiver, the user adjusts the frequency to 60.5 KHz in LSB or 59.5 KHz in USB, the received sound being a 500 Hz variablecarrier.>get pretty close to 500 Hz in the clock program, but not exactly. You are not supposed to be at 500 Hz strictly but at any AF frequency between 400 to 1600 Hz. However, change the HF frequency according to this AF and the direction of SSB (USB or LSB).  >2. How does one get the PLL to lock at exactly 500 Hz?  What portion of the waterfall should be at 500 Hz?  I >can move the red line, but not get it to exactly read 500 Hz.See before. There is no obligation to be strictly at 500 HZ.  >3. Every now and again, some of the data will fill onto the clock screen.  However, it is always incorrect.  Many >times ??? will appear.  If cheap clocks can read the information, why am I having so much problem getting a >clean read of the time and date data?It can appear, but normally you have a synchronization only with two successive decodings.  >If cheap clocks can read the information, why am I having so much problem getting a clean read of the time and >date data?Try a test of the sound card (First test, normally it is sufficient).  73Patrick





   De : multipsk@yahoogroups.com[mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] De la part de nj3h@...Envoy. : samedi 12 octobre 2013 15:51. : multipsk@yahoogroups.comObjet : [multipsk] Clock Program Questions



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#18140 Feb 27, 2014

Hi Patrick, 1. As I am using MulitPSK in differentconfigurations (analog radio, Virtual Audio Cable, RTL dongle, FunCube dongle) Iwas wondering if it is possible to save all settings for a specificconfiguration.Is there one file that holds all configuration data which Icould copy?Could you implement a feature where it is possible to save andrestore a specific configuration (including soundcard sample freq)? 2. As the RTL dongle is managed by MultiPSK and no "sound card(Input)" is needed I guess there is also no need to do the "Determination of thesoundcard sample frequency".Correct?But if I use a FunCube dongle (which presents a sounddevice tothe software) do I need to do the "Determination of the soundcard samplefrequency"? 3. When I am finished with the "Determination of the soundcardsample frequency" and return, the mode is always changed to PSK10.Could you put that on your 'to-do' list so that it will returnto the mode it was in?Not a real problem ofcourse :-) but every now and thenI forget to set the Mode again and wonder why the decoding isfunny. 73, Dick 







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#18142 Feb 28, 2014

Hi Patrick,Would like to add one more feature request formultiple dongles.

I very much like the feature where you show the RTLdongles that are present in the "RTL/SDR key selection" window so that you canselect the one you want to use.It is possible to assign a uniqueserialnumber to each dongle.(see rtl1090.jetvision.de  Manual,  chapter  "4.6 Serial number programming and selective dongleoperations")Is it possible to show this serialnumber in the "RTL/SDR keyselection" window?

73, Dick

----- Original Message ----- From:Acarsd To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 7:49AMSubject: [multipsk] A few questions





HiPatrick,

1. As I am using MulitPSK in different configurations (analogradio, Virtual Audio Cable, RTL dongle, FunCube dongle) I was wondering if it ispossible to save all settings for a specific configuration.Is there one filethat holds all configuration data which I could copy?Could you implement afeature where it is possible to save and restore a specific configuration(including soundcard sample freq)?

2. As the RTL dongle is managed byMultiPSK and no "sound card (Input)" is needed I guess there is also no need todo the "Determination of the soundcard sample frequency".Correct?But ifI use a FunCube dongle (which presents a sounddevice to the software) do I needto do the "Determination of the soundcard sample frequency"?

3. When I amfinished with the "Determination of the soundcard sample frequency" and return,the mode is always changed to PSK10.Could you put that on your 'to-do' listso that it will return to the mode it was in?Not a real problem ofcourse :-)but every now and then I forget to set the Mode again and wonder why thedecoding is funny.

73,Dick



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#18147 Feb 28, 2014

Hello Dick,  1.       Sorry, I have no time for this (however the need you mention is logical).  2. As the RTL dongle is managed by MultiPSK and no "sound card (Input)" is needed I guess there is also no need to do the "Determination of the soundcard sample frequency".Correct?But if I use a FunCube dongle (which presents a sounddevice to the software) do I need to do the "Determination of the soundcard sample frequency"?You don’t need this option for RTL dongle and FunCube.  3.       I will add this to my wishes list, but it is not a priority…  73Patrick    De : multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] De la part de AcarsdEnvoy. : vendredi 28 f.vrier 2014 07:50. : multipsk@yahoogroups.comObjet : [multipsk] A few questions



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#18148 Feb 28, 2014

Dick,  >Is it possible to show this serialnumber in the "RTL/SDR key selection" window?I will see if it is possible.  73Patrick

 De : multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] De la part de AcarsdEnvoy. : vendredi 28 f.vrier 2014 09:40. : multipsk@yahoogroups.comObjet : Re: [multipsk] A few questions



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#20197 Apr 24, 2015

I have read that the IOC288 sync is supposed to be a 675hz tone modulating the FM carrier, and the IOC576 is supposed to be a 300hz tone modulating the FM carrier. However I can't find any standards documentation that tells what the waveform this tone (subcarrier) is supposed to be in. Is it a sinewave? Or a squarewave? If squarewave, what is its duty cycle? 50% high and 50% low? or More like 25% high, or more like 75% high?

I've noticed that when MultiPSK is set in sync mode, if it receives a phasing signal, but no start tone, it defaults to IOC576 and will display the text "Synchro 576" in blue letters on the Synchro button, and automatically set the receiving IOC to 576. If it receives the 300hz subcarrier, before the phasing signal, it will correctly detect IOC576 and will again display the text "Synchro 576" in blue letters on the Synchro button and automatically set the receiving IOC to 576. But 99% of the time it will not correctly detect IOC288, when it receives the 675hz subcarrier. The result is that the letters on the Synchro button will turn blue, but no IOC will be indicated on the Synchro button. Furthermore, it will not automatically set the receiving IOC to 288 (whatever the previously selected IOC was, is what will be used during image decoding). During the 1% of the time that it DOES correctly detect the 675hz subcarrier, it says "Synchro 288" in blue letters on the Synchro button, and automatically sets the receiving IOC to 288.

What I want to know is just what frequency subcarrier is MultiPSK looking for, in order to detect IOC288? It must be somewhat near 675hz, because 1% of the time it does detect it (if it was too far away in frequency, it would never detect it). Anybody have any knowledge of the source code of MultiPSK, so maybe you could tell me what frequency it is in fact looking for, for IOC288? I'm trying to write my own HF Fax software, and I want it to be compatible with MultiPSK, so I need to know what MultiPSK is expecting to receive in order to autodetect IOC288. Also knowledge of what waveform it's expecting the subcarrier to be using would help.

 



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#20214 May 1, 2015

Hello Ben,  All the necessary information was found in the Klingenfuss . Guide to facsimile stations.. I suppose that you can find all theinformation on the WEB.  73Patrick  De : multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] Envoy. : samedi 25 avril 2015 05:30. : multipsk@yahoogroups.comObjet : [multipsk] Questions about weatherfax sync tone



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#21253 Jan 3 5:47 PM

Hello all.Thank you Patrick for including an Orbcomm decoder in to MultiPSK.Like other, I have questions. :)

How much transmit power does the satellite transmit? I am impressed I can receive a LEO satellite almost 1500 KM away with my Funcube dongle and magnetic mount antenna. :) Oh, of course, and MultiPSK software!

Are there other users doing unattended receiving of the satellites? If so, what are your settings?I would like to set up my laptop and just let it run for several hours. Then come back and see what was received.If I "see" the signal in the waterfall, I can decode it. But the satellite signal can be anywhere in the 600 kHz of spectrum provided by the FCD. How can tuning be done automatically?I have tried using the 'afc' and 'AFC' settings. They work, but the discovery of the signal is not quick. I am curious to know of other users have found a better way.

Separate question: Does MultiPSK support the Funcube Dongle Pro+?

Thank you,-Shawn







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#21256 Jan 4 2:35 AM

> Hello all.

> Thank you Patrick for including an Orbcomm decoder in to MultiPSK.

> Like other, I have questions. :)

>

> How much transmit power does the satellite transmit? I am impressed I can

> receive a LEO satellite almost 1500 KM away with my Funcube dongle and

> magnetic mount antenna. :) Oh, of course, and MultiPSK software!

>

> Are there other users doing unattended receiving of the satellites? If so,

> what are your settings?

> I would like to set up my laptop and just let it run for several hours.

> Then come back and see what was received.

> If I "see" the signal in the waterfall, I can decode it. But the satellite

> signal can be anywhere in the 600 kHz of spectrum provided by the FCD. How

> can tuning be done automatically?



How do you squeeze 600kc out of funcube dongle?!?!?



> I have tried using the 'afc' and 'AFC' settings. They work, but the

> discovery of the signal is not quick. I am curious to know of other users

> have found a better way.

>

> Separate question: Does MultiPSK support the Funcube Dongle Pro+?



Yes it does!!!

>

> Thank you,



youre welcme



dg9bfc



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#21259 Jan 4 12:32 PM

Hello Shawn,  >MULTIPSK in conjunction with a tracker soft like WXtrack, Orbitron or

>anyother. Look at MULTIPSK.s Help.You can interface WXTRACK with Multipsk (select the WXTRACK (sat.) menu at the top of Multipsk). Once done, WXTRACK will send regularly the frequency to Multipsk which will tune to the wished frequency on the RTL key. The frequency must be precise because the .afc. will not be useful.  However, it will not be possible to select all the ORBCOMM satellites.  73Patrick    De : multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] Envoy. : lundi 4 janvier 2016 11:35. : multipsk@yahoogroups.comObjet : [multipsk] Re: Orbcomm questions



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#21631 Feb 21, 2016

HI all around!

A question for the group .. There is a possibility that MULTIPSK scan all assigned to each satellite-frequency? Sometimes when a satellite is in range it is possible to transmit data at a frequency other than the first (if he has assigned more than one) and any information will not appear on the RX screen . On the other hand (in my case ...) I have noticed at times leaving scanning alone for hours "offset" comes to 99,999 Hz. .. I do not know if my problem or someone else has experienced the same.



73 de Txema - EA2AFR



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#21641 Feb 21, 2016

Hello Txema,  >A question for the group .. There is a possibility that MULTIPSK scan all assigned to >each satellite-frequency?It would be possible, but not simple. Perhaps in the future if it becomes indispensable.  >noticed at times leaving scanning alone for hours "offset" comes to 99,999 Hz. .. I doIf you select .Export of the sole frequency.... you must take into account the Offset. This one is the correction relatively to the theoretical frequency. If you click on the SdR waterfall or if the AFC (or afc) modifies the frequency the Offset takes into account this correction. Surely the AFC, in absence of satellite, has drift up to the limit of 99999 Hz.  I wonder:.         Not to take the AFC in the Offset (and only if the user modifies manually the SdR frequency on the waterfall),.         Reduce to 10 KHz instead of 99.999 KHz.  HW?  73Patrick    De : multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] Envoy. : dimanche 21 f.vrier 2016 10:47. : multipsk@yahoogroups.comObjet : [multipsk] Questions [1 Attachment]



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#21646 Feb 21, 2016

TKS !

73 de Txema - EA2AFR



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#22430 Nov 4, 2016

Hi guys,



As this technical question is somehow related to MultiPSK I decided to post it here in the hope that Patrick or anyone with more in-depth TCP/IP knowledge can enlighten me.



The last few weeks Mike (Display Launcher) and I have been very busy trying to understand the problems I see with VDL2-Display.

The problems seem transfer-rate related, which is why Mike cannot easily reproduce the problem.

Analysis of the problems seems to indicate that data is lost over the TCP/IP link between MultiPSK and VDL2-Display.



So eventually, to prove that the data does arrive correctly (on not) at the other end, I ran a network monitor program to have a look at the packages.

I used " Microsoft Network Monitor 3.4" and later switched to " Microsoft Message Analyzer" to be able to monitor the local 127.0.0.1 traffic.

They did arrive correctly so Mike is now looking at the code that reads the messages from the interface.



In this context it surprised me to see that for the messages between MultiPSK and VDL2-Display:

1.

The payload of the TCP/IP message is very small, most of the time only 2 character.

The largest payload I have seen was about 80 characters, but only when VDL2-Display is NOT on the same PC.

When VDL2-Display is on the same PC as MultiPSK the largest package I saw was 4 bytes...



This difference might have something to do with the way the data is transported between applications on the same PC and between applications on different PC's (using the real Ethernet network).



2.

Each character in the payload is preceded by a hex 1D (GS) character.





So:

In case of a 2 character payload AND a 1D in front of every character it means that the VDL2 message is actually transported over the TCP/IP connection with 1 character at a time.

This seems very inefficient.



PS

The network used for this was a 1.0 Gbps Ethernet using a

"Atheros L1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Controller"





Cheers,

Dick







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#22431 Nov 4, 2016

Hello Dick,

>This difference might have something to do with the way the data is transported between applications on the same PC and between >applications on different PC's (using the real Ethernet network).I suppose Ethernet must add some additional layers and so add some extra characters.

>Each character in the payload is preceded by a hex 1D (GS) character.Yes the first character depends on what sort of information to transmit, for example:

1) Characters effectively transmitted by Multipsk to the transceiver are preceded by the character CHR(28) before transmission to the client, for example for "DOG": CHR(28) D CHR(28) O CHR(28) G 2) Characters received by Multipsk are preceded by the character CHR(29) before transmission to the client, for example for "DOG": CHR(29) D CHR(29) O CHR(29) G

>So:>In case of a 2 character payload AND a 1D in front of every character it means that the VDL2 message is actually transported over >the TCP/IP connection with 1 character at a time.>This seems very inefficient.Yes it is not efficient at all, but i wanted no ambiguity at all, which was without problem as TCP/IP transmission is much quicker that any HF of VHF transmission so.I was not thinking of transmission between two PCs, but only inside one.

73Patrick

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Objet.: [multipsk] OT (Technical TCP/IP questions)Hi guys,As this technical question is somehow related to MultiPSK I decided to post it here in the hope that Patrick or anyone with more in-depth TCP/IP knowledge can enlighten me.The last few weeks Mike (Display Launcher) and I have been very busy trying to understand the problems I see with VDL2-Display.The problems seem transfer-rate related, which is why Mike cannot easily reproduce the problem.Analysis of the problems seems to indicate that data is lost over the TCP/IP link between MultiPSK and VDL2-Display.So eventually, to prove that the data does arrive correctly (on not) at the other end, I ran a network monitor program to have a look at the packages.I used " Microsoft Network Monitor 3.4" and later switched to " Microsoft Message Analyzer" to be able to monitor the local 127.0.0.1 traffic.They did arrive correctly so Mike is now looking at the code that reads the messages from the interface.In this context it surprised me to see that for the messages between MultiPSK and VDL2-Display:1. The payload of the TCP/IP message is very small, most of the time only 2 character.The largest payload I have seen was about 80 characters, but only when VDL2-Display is NOT on the same PC.When VDL2-Display is on the same PC as MultiPSK the largest package I saw was 4 bytes...This difference might have something to do with the way the data is transported between applications on the same PC and between applications on different PC's (using the real Ethernet network).2. Each character in the payload is preceded by a hex 1D (GS) character.

So:In case of a 2 character payload AND a 1D in front of every character it means that the VDL2 message is actually transported over the TCP/IP connection with 1 character at a time.This seems very inefficient.PSThe network used for this was a 1.0 Gbps Ethernet using a "Atheros L1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Controller"

Cheers,Dick





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#22432 Nov 5, 2016

Hello Patrick,I am glad to hear that these CHR(28)and .CHR(29) characters are there on purpose.  So it is correct that when I monitor the data in the TCP server stream from MultiPSK (port 3122) to VDL2-Display that I see a 1D .(hex) character which is 29 (ASCII) and thus (GS) .before in front of every character.

The Wiki explains .The separators (File, Group, Record, and Unit: FS, GS, RS and US) were made to structure data, ..So I don.t think it is necessary to use them in this case because I think there is no reason for an ambiguity challenge in this datastream.

Anyway, .I do understand that it should not make a difference to the program because as you say .a TCP/IP transmission is much quicker that any HF of VHF transmission... J  Now I understand why the payload data send over TCP/IP is twice the size of the actual data received (the VDL2 message) there is only one question left.Why is the payload .(in this case the VDL2 message + all the CHR(28) characters sent using these small packages.One or just a few packages would be so much more efficient.I wonder if this splitting up in .just a few. character pieces is the result of a network setting somewhere or maybe the result of the actual use of my network or ...  This screenshot shows the difference between internal and Ethernet communication.It shows MultiPSK sending VDL2 data to Planeplotter (port 3121 on the same PC) in 2 character messages and to VDL2-Display on port 3122 on another PC.The Ethernet message (this time) is 126, but this was the largest I have seen.The messages over the Loopback are always small (in general 2 but sometimes 4 or max 6 characters).  



So I am hoping somebody with in-depth TCP/IP knowledge .can explain this.  I don.t think there is a problem, I just want to understand these things.  73,Dick        From: multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 8:41 PMTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [multipsk] OT (Technical TCP/IP questions)







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#22435 Nov 5, 2016

Hello Dick,  >So I don.t think it is necessary to use them in this case because I think there is no reason for an ambiguity challenge in this datastream.There not only data but commands...Other prefix are used, but only one prefix character for a string would have been sufficient here.  I confirm that characters are transmitted one by one (once received) so for a character a couple of characters (prefix + character) are sent to the TCP/IP socket.  73Patrick  De : multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] Envoy. : samedi 5 novembre 2016 12:19. : multipsk@yahoogroups.comObjet : RE: [multipsk] OT (Technical TCP/IP questions)



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#22445 Nov 10, 2016

Hello Patrick,  Thank you for the explanation.  Actually I was only expecting data and not commands on the TCP/IP port (3122) to VDL2-Display.But I now realise that this feature (port 3122 . 3132) is not only used by VDL2-Display but also meant .to control MULTIPSK.EXE. as the Help explains. And of course then there will be an exchange of commands.This also explains why pressing the .Stop. and .RX. button .results in a message on this port. J .All clear now, thank you.  73,Dick    From: multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 6:19 PMTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [multipsk] OT (Technical TCP/IP questions)


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