Re: [multipsk] Fw: [digitalradio] Tests and Europ activity in 300bauds Packet


Dec 13, 2006

 


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#2440 Dec 13, 2006

Hello Glenn and Dave, In general there are much around 10149.200 (for the mark)and 10149.300 KHz for the central frequency. I did know it was a generalrecommendation. From Canada it seems difficult to decode them as the S/N minimumis around 2 or 3 dB... Hello Eric,>In Region 1 packet on 30 metres is

restricted by recommendation that, voluntarily, stations do not use it.But 10140 to 10150 KHz is for digimodesno? 73Patrick   

----- Original Message -----From:DavidBastressTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:46PMSubject: Re: [multipsk] Fw:[digitalradio] Tests and Europ activity in 300bauds Packet

GA Glenn, I read somewhere that the actual frequencies for the ARPS tones weresuppose to 10,149.200 KHz and 10,149.400 KHz.  From the limited listeningI have done that seems to be right.  I have heard several stations thatwere up to 100 Hz or so off in either direction but that is probably due totheir rig's frequency calibration being off by that amount.  So whatevercombination of audio tones and vfo frequency that puts the tones on10,149.200 KHz and 10,149.400 KHz should work.  In your case, a dialfrequency of 10,147.6 KHz in upper side band mode or 10,151.0 KHz inthe lower side band mode should put your 1600 Hz and 1800 Hz tones out of themodem right on frequency. Good Luck. 73,Dave K3GAU

>>> Glenn Wiebe ve4gn@...>12/13/2006 12:07 PM >>>

My station:TS-440S...Kam. ..300 baud tones 1600 & 1800hz.It says below 10150 khz, audio about 1000 hz which equals 10149 khzcf.I set the rig to 10.150.70 LSB (10149 khz cf) yesterday pm, no European

stations heard or displayed.

73 de Glenn...VE4GN

PatrickLindecker wrote:> For information,> > 73>Patrick> > ----- Original Message -----> *From:* JohnBradley mailto:jbradley@sasktel. net>>*To:* digitalradio@ yahoogroups. commailto:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com>>*Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:36 PM> *Subject:* Re:[digitalradio] Tests and Europ activity in 300 bauds Packet> >ok ... set up on 10150 beaconing now... will leave it run for the rest

> of the day here and see what shows up> > 73's>John> VE5MU

> > Hello John,> >>Baleares island is very inviting, especially since we have had>temps down to -25C> Baleares or Siberia?> > The mainfrequency for HF 300 bauds Packet transmissions is:> * 10150 KHzLSB> * AF around 1000 Hz.> > 73>Patrick

> > Baleares island is very inviting, especiallysince we have had> temps down to -25C, currently -10C> >Any idea what frequency they are using for all this? Would it be> worthchosing one which we could use ? We do not have any> band/baudrestrictions here (Canada)for this type of> transmission so could usewhatever suits European stations.> > John> VE5MU>

> Hello to all,> > For information, here are someinterested tests from Txema> (EA2AFR) in APRS RX and APRSrepeater.> > Baleares islands seem very sympatic (20.C!).> > 73>Patrick



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#2441 Dec 13, 2006

Hello Patrick  Yes digimodes 10140-14150 butspecifically Packet, and SSB, are not to be used in Region 1. It is not adirective, indeed my licence states I can use any mode on 30m but the IARURegion 1 Bandplan is written with the following notes:  10 MHz band.The use of Packet Radio isdiscouraged on 10 MHz band.

It is recommended that unmanned stations using digital modes shall avoid theuse of the 10 MHz band.  This is per the 1996 GeneralConference to which all European authorities subscribed. As a result Europeanstations respect this and do not use Packet or SSB on 30mtrs.  73 de Eric.        From:multipsk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:multipsk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PatrickLindecker

Sent: 13 December 2006 22:08

To: multipsk@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [multipsk] Fw: [digitalradio] Tests and Europ activity in300bauds Packet



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#2443 Dec 13, 2006

Hello Eric, RR for all. You are certainly right. However, I have the Iaru Region 1 2005 edition (inFrench) applicable from the 01/01/2006 which says, for the 10 MHz,that:* SSB is discouraged except foremergency,* it is forbidden to broadcast information reportin any mode,but nothing about Packet (however the 1200 baudsone is forbidden as its bandwidth is >500 Hz), so what is not forbidden isauthorized... 73Patrick      ----- Original Message -----From:Eric CarlingTo: multipsk@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:45PMSubject: RE: [multipsk] Fw:[digitalradio] Tests and Europ activity in 300bauds Packet



Hello Patrick

Yes digimodes 10140-14150 butspecifically Packet, and SSB, are not to be used in Region 1. It is not adirective, indeed my licence states I can use any mode on 30m but the IARURegion 1 Bandplan is written with the following notes:

10 MHzband.The use of Packet Radio isdiscouraged on 10 MHz band.It is recommended that unmanned stations usingdigital modes shall avoid the use of the 10 MHz band.

This is per the 1996 GeneralConference to which all European authorities subscribed. As a result Europeanstations respect this and do not use Packet or SSB on30mtrs.

73 de Eric.



From: multipsk@yahoogroup s.com[mailto:multipsk@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PatrickLindeckerSent: 13 December 2006 22:08To:multipsk@yahoogroup s.comSubject: Re: [multipsk] Fw:[digitalradio] Tests and Europ activity in 300baudsPacket


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