Re: Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration


Oct 14, 2003

 


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#8627 Oct 14, 2003

Doug,



Speaking of XP Remote Administration, I've upgraded my observatory

desktop to a system running XP Home Edition (Host) and my remote system

also running XP Home. I've tried setting up the Remote Administration

for remote control, however cannot get my remote to recognize the host

system. I still use PCAnywhere with both host and remote which works

fine, however would like to use RA. Any tips for the proper setup or a

link that might explain the setup.



Thanks,.



Dan

>
>

>My favourite remote control program is Windows XP Remote Administration

>Desktop. It's really quite amazing -- it's so fast you would swear you

>were working on the remote computer. It does require XP Pro on the

>observatory computer (you can control it from any version of Windows).

>

>Doug>>

>



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#8628 Oct 14, 2003

In order to run Remote Desktop in Host mode, you need to have XP

Professional. It also is quite fast compared to PCAnywhere.



Matt Russell

www.telescopes.cc



--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, Dan Ford Yahoo dford1232003@y...>

wrote: > Doug,

>

> Speaking of XP Remote Administration, I've upgraded my observatory

> desktop to a system running XP Home Edition (Host) and my remote

system > also running XP Home. I've tried setting up the Remote

Administration > for remote control, however cannot get my remote to recognize the

host > system. I still use PCAnywhere with both host and remote which

works > fine, however would like to use RA. Any tips for the proper setup

or a > link that might explain the setup.

>

> Thanks,.

>

> Dan

>

> >
> >

> >My favourite remote control program is Windows XP Remote

Administration > >Desktop. It's really quite amazing -- it's so fast you would

swear you > >were working on the remote computer. It does require XP Pro on

the > >observatory computer (you can control it from any version of

Windows). > >

> >Doug>>

> >



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#8629 Oct 14, 2003

Matt Russell wrote:

> In order to run Remote Desktop in Host mode, you need to have XP

> Professional. It also is quite fast compared to PCAnywhere.



Yes, my original e-mail did say "XP Pro".



Doug



---------------



Doug George

dgeorge@...



Diffraction Limited

Makers of Cyanogen Imaging Products

www.cyanogen.com



100 Craig Henry Drive, Unit 106,

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K2G 5W3



Phone: (613) 225-2732

Fax: (613) 225-9688



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#8630 Oct 14, 2003

If rempte administration is the same as remote desktop then the remote

machine must be running XP Pro, not XP Home.





Peter



-----Original Message-----

From: Dan Ford Yahoo [mailto:dford1232003@...]

Sent: 14 October 2003 22:13

To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [MaxImDL] Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration





Doug,



Speaking of XP Remote Administration, I've upgraded my observatory

desktop to a system running XP Home Edition (Host) and my remote system

also running XP Home. I've tried setting up the Remote Administration

for remote control, however cannot get my remote to recognize the host

system. I still use PCAnywhere with both host and remote which works

fine, however would like to use RA. Any tips for the proper setup or a

link that might explain the setup.



Thanks,.



Dan

>
>

>My favourite remote control program is Windows XP Remote Administration

>Desktop. It's really quite amazing -- it's so fast you would swear you

>were working on the remote computer. It does require XP Pro on the

>observatory computer (you can control it from any version of Windows).

>

>Doug>>

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#8631 Oct 14, 2003

If you don't have XP Pro I don't think you can enable the option to accept incoming connections in Remote Administrator. I have XP Home in the house and XP Pro in the observatory and I can only connect from inside the house to the observatory, not the other way. I like it so much I've considered upgrading my XP Home to Pro but they don't seem to cut you a break on the price when you do that.



Gil Jones



> -------- Original Message --------

> Subject: [MaxImDL] Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration

> From: "Dan Ford Yahoo" dford1232003@...>

> Date: Tue, October 14, 2003 2:13 pm

> To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

>

> Doug,

>

> Speaking of XP Remote Administration, I've upgraded my observatory

> desktop to a system running XP Home Edition (Host) and my remote system

>

> also running XP Home. I've tried setting up the Remote Administration

> for remote control, however cannot get my remote to recognize the host

>

> system. I still use PCAnywhere with both host and remote which works

> fine, however would like to use RA. Any tips for the proper setup or a

>

> link that might explain the setup.

>

> Thanks,.

>

> Dan

>

> >
> >

> >My favourite remote control program is Windows XP Remote

> Administration

> >Desktop. It's really quite amazing -- it's so fast you would swear

> you

> >were working on the remote computer. It does require XP Pro on the

> >observatory computer (you can control it from any version of

> Windows).

> >

> >Doug>>

> >

>

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#8632 Oct 14, 2003

Hello Peter..



Thanks for that i may look at this route when i buy another laptop.

I was outside earlier trying to get maxim dl working autoguiding and multi

image sequencing and every thing glitched. when i rebooted all is well except

now the filter wheel wont work.



I tried everything disconnecting cables , rebooting ect but nothing. The

funny thing is the wheel still works manually with the hand box.



Ps where are you from in uk and have you got an image of your set up heres

mine

Richard





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#8639 Oct 15, 2003

Thanks for all the responses. I now understand that I need XP Pro for

the remote communication to work. Have to save a few more bucks.



Dan



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#8642 Oct 15, 2003

Dan,



Pardon me for jumping in here. I've not been tuned into this thread and am

just seeing the conclusions. If this duplicates, my apologies for the

bandwidth use.



You can use XP Home's Remote Assistance to achieve the same thing, no? It

does require some somewhat cumbersome handshaking every time you set it up

where one system asks the other's permission to connect, but it most

certainly works, as I have established a link like this between two XP Home

systems for the purpose of helping out my daughter debug her XP setup. That

was a NC/CA internet link and the performance was excellent (broadband

connections on both ends).



Look at start/help/"ask for assistance (invite a friend to connect...)" I'm

aware of no restrictions to what you can do once connected. It does presume

you have the capability of sending and receiving email, or are connected via

windows messenger on each of the connected computers (that's the

"cumbersome" part). In other words, internet connected and with two

different email addresses.



I've never done this between 2 machines on a LAN, but assuming the LAN is

internet connected, I don't see why it wouldn't work.



Gary Ferdinand

Apex, NC







> -----Original Message-----

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> To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [MaxImDL] Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration

>

>

>

> Thanks for all the responses. I now understand that I need XP Pro for

> the remote communication to work. Have to save a few more bucks.

>

> Dan

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#8643 Oct 15, 2003

Gary,



What you are referring to is remote assistance not remote desktop. These

are two separate functions.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: Gary Ferdinand [mailto:alaparos@...]

Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:01 AM

To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [MaxImDL] Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration





Dan,



Pardon me for jumping in here. I've not been tuned into this thread and

am

just seeing the conclusions. If this duplicates, my apologies for the

bandwidth use.



You can use XP Home's Remote Assistance to achieve the same thing, no?

It

does require some somewhat cumbersome handshaking every time you set it

up

where one system asks the other's permission to connect, but it most

certainly works, as I have established a link like this between two XP

Home

systems for the purpose of helping out my daughter debug her XP setup.

That

was a NC/CA internet link and the performance was excellent (broadband

connections on both ends).



Look at start/help/"ask for assistance (invite a friend to connect...)"

I'm

aware of no restrictions to what you can do once connected. It does

presume

you have the capability of sending and receiving email, or are connected

via

windows messenger on each of the connected computers (that's the

"cumbersome" part). In other words, internet connected and with two

different email addresses.



I've never done this between 2 machines on a LAN, but assuming the LAN

is

internet connected, I don't see why it wouldn't work.



Gary Ferdinand

Apex, NC







> -----Original Message-----

> From: dford1232003 [mailto:dford1232003@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:15 AM

> To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [MaxImDL] Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration

>

>

>

> Thanks for all the responses. I now understand that I need XP Pro for

> the remote communication to work. Have to save a few more bucks.

>

> Dan

>

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#8644 Oct 15, 2003

Gary,



Yes, that function is available in XP Home. I have not tried it and do

not know if it performs the same as Remote Administration. It might be

worth a try, as long as you don't mind running back and forth to set it up.



Doug



---------------



Doug George

dgeorge@...



Diffraction Limited

Makers of Cyanogen Imaging Products

www.cyanogen.com



100 Craig Henry Drive, Unit 106,

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K2G 5W3



Phone: (613) 225-2732

Fax: (613) 225-9688



---------------



> Dan,

>

> Pardon me for jumping in here. I've not been tuned into this thread and am

> just seeing the conclusions. If this duplicates, my apologies for the

> bandwidth use.

>

> You can use XP Home's Remote Assistance to achieve the same thing, no? It

> does require some somewhat cumbersome handshaking every time you set it up

> where one system asks the other's permission to connect, but it most

> certainly works, as I have established a link like this between two XP Home

> systems for the purpose of helping out my daughter debug her XP setup. That

> was a NC/CA internet link and the performance was excellent (broadband

> connections on both ends).

>

> Look at start/help/"ask for assistance (invite a friend to connect...)" I'm

> aware of no restrictions to what you can do once connected. It does presume

> you have the capability of sending and receiving email, or are connected via

> windows messenger on each of the connected computers (that's the

> "cumbersome" part). In other words, internet connected and with two

> different email addresses.

>

> I've never done this between 2 machines on a LAN, but assuming the LAN is

> internet connected, I don't see why it wouldn't work.

>

> Gary Ferdinand

> Apex, NC

>



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#8654 Oct 15, 2003

Steve: Yes, I know I'm referring to Remote Assistance, thank you. That's

why I called it remote assistance ;-) I'm attempting to help out by

offering the man an alternative that will work on his XP Home system while

he saves up the M$ dollars to buy XP Pro.



Doug: Yes, that is definately a downside. You will have to go between the

sites to coordinate the handshake or have a person on each end. Performance

I found to be excellent and that was across a transcon internet connection.

I imagine across a 100 Mb/s LAN it would be similarly excellent.



Gary









> -----Original Message-----

> From: Douglas B. George [mailto:dgeorge@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:19 AM

> To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [MaxImDL] Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration

>

>

> Gary,

>

> Yes, that function is available in XP Home. I have not tried it and do

> not know if it performs the same as Remote Administration. It might be

> worth a try, as long as you don't mind running back and forth to

> set it up.

>

> Doug

>

---------------

>

> Doug George

> dgeorge@...

>

> Diffraction Limited

> Makers of Cyanogen Imaging Products

> www.cyanogen.com

>

> 100 Craig Henry Drive, Unit 106,

> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K2G 5W3

>

> Phone: (613) 225-2732

> Fax: (613) 225-9688

>

---------------

>

>

> > Dan,

> >

> > Pardon me for jumping in here. I've not been tuned into this

> thread and am

> > just seeing the conclusions. If this duplicates, my apologies for the

> > bandwidth use.

> >

> > You can use XP Home's Remote Assistance to achieve the same

> thing, no? It

> > does require some somewhat cumbersome handshaking every time

> you set it up

> > where one system asks the other's permission to connect, but it most

> > certainly works, as I have established a link like this between

> two XP Home

> > systems for the purpose of helping out my daughter debug her XP

> setup. That

> > was a NC/CA internet link and the performance was excellent (broadband

> > connections on both ends).

> >

> > Look at start/help/"ask for assistance (invite a friend to

> connect...)" I'm

> > aware of no restrictions to what you can do once connected. It

> does presume

> > you have the capability of sending and receiving email, or are

> connected via

> > windows messenger on each of the connected computers (that's the

> > "cumbersome" part). In other words, internet connected and with two

> > different email addresses.

> >

> > I've never done this between 2 machines on a LAN, but assuming

> the LAN is

> > internet connected, I don't see why it wouldn't work.

> >

> > Gary Ferdinand

> > Apex, NC

> >

>

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#8656 Oct 16, 2003

Thanks for the alternative Gary.



Dan








Pardon me for jumping in here. I've not been tuned into this thread and am

just seeing the conclusions. If this duplicates, my apologies for the

bandwidth use.



You can use XP Home's Remote Assistance to achieve the same thing, no? It

does require some somewhat cumbersome handshaking every time you set it up

where one system asks the other's permission to connect, but it most

certainly works, as I have established a link like this between two XP Home

systems for the purpose of helping out my daughter debug her XP setup. That

was a NC/CA internet link and the performance was excellent (broadband

connections on both ends).



Look at start/help/"ask for assistance (invite a friend to connect...)" I'm

aware of no restrictions to what you can do once connected. It does presume

you have the capability of sending and receiving email, or are connected via

windows messenger on each of the connected computers (that's the

"cumbersome" part). In other words, internet connected and with two

different email addresses.



I've never done this between 2 machines on a LAN, but assuming the LAN is

internet connected, I don't see why it wouldn't work.



Gary Ferdinand

Apex, NC>>



>

>



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#8846 Oct 31, 2003

Dan Ford Yahoo wrote:

> Speaking of XP Remote Administration, I've upgraded my observatory

> desktop to a system running XP Home Edition (Host) and my remote system

> also running XP Home. I've tried setting up the Remote Administration

> for remote control, however cannot get my remote to recognize the host

> system. I still use PCAnywhere with both host and remote which works

> fine, however would like to use RA. Any tips for the proper setup or a

> link that might explain the setup.



Dan,



Your message got stuck in my anti-spam filter for some bizarre reason,

so I didn't see it until just now (I get 2500 spams a week -- the filter

REALLY helps).



I'm afraid I don't have any good suggestions for getting remote

administration working; I just tried it and it worked. If you have some

kind of firewall between the two computers it might have an impact.



Doug



---------------



Doug George

dgeorge@...



Diffraction Limited

Makers of Cyanogen Imaging Products

www.cyanogen.com



100 Craig Henry Drive, Unit 106,

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K2G 5W3



Phone: (613) 225-2732

Fax: (613) 225-9688



---------------



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#8849 Nov 1, 2003

As far as I know, *one* of the computers must be XP Pro. XP Home can

be a client, but not a host...only XP Pro can be the host.

That is one of the abilities differentiating XP Home from XP Pro (and

supposedly justifying the extra cost).

Sorry :(



I use VNC, I like it better anyway and it's free! :)



Paul



--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas B. George" dgeorge@c...>

wrote: > Dan Ford Yahoo wrote:

>

> > Speaking of XP Remote Administration, I've upgraded my

observatory > > desktop to a system running XP Home Edition (Host) and my remote

system > > also running XP Home. I've tried setting up the Remote

Administration > > for remote control, however cannot get my remote to recognize the

host > > system. I still use PCAnywhere with both host and remote which

works > > fine, however would like to use RA. Any tips for the proper setup

or a > > link that might explain the setup.

>

> Dan,

>

> Your message got stuck in my anti-spam filter for some bizarre

reason, > so I didn't see it until just now (I get 2500 spams a week -- the

filter > REALLY helps).

>

> I'm afraid I don't have any good suggestions for getting remote

> administration working; I just tried it and it worked. If you have

some > kind of firewall between the two computers it might have an impact.

>

> Doug

>

---------------

>

> Doug George

> dgeorge@c...

>

> Diffraction Limited

> Makers of Cyanogen Imaging Products

> www.cyanogen.com

>

> 100 Craig Henry Drive, Unit 106,

> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K2G 5W3

>

> Phone: (613) 225-2732

> Fax: (613) 225-9688

>

---------------



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#8853 Nov 1, 2003

Paul wrote:

> I use VNC, I like it better anyway and it's free! :)



I used to use VNC, but found that XP Remote Administration is

night-and-day superior. The throughput is so good, you would swear you

were working on the remote machine.



One warning: turning on remote admin seems to disable VNC.



Doug



---------------



Doug George

dgeorge@...



Diffraction Limited

Makers of Cyanogen Imaging Products

www.cyanogen.com



100 Craig Henry Drive, Unit 106,

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K2G 5W3



Phone: (613) 225-2732

Fax: (613) 225-9688



---------------







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#8854 Nov 1, 2003

Douglas B. George wrote: > Paul wrote:

>

>

>>I use VNC, I like it better anyway and it's free! :)

>

>

> I used to use VNC, but found that XP Remote Administration is

> night-and-day superior. The throughput is so good, you would swear you

> were working on the remote machine.

>

> One warning: turning on remote admin seems to disable VNC.

>

> Doug



And that is part of the reason I still rely on VNC. At my office I

have Win2K, at home XPhome, on the road Win98SE. I need to be able

to remote operate my observatory PCs (all Win98SE) from any of those

platforms. VNC can, RemoteDesktop can not.



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#8855 Nov 1, 2003

At which end? I can have a Remote Desktop session to one machine and a VNC

session to another running at the same time without problems.



Chris



*****************************************

Chris L Peterson

Cloudbait Observatory

www.cloudbait.com



----- Original Message -----

From: "Douglas B. George" dgeorge@...>

To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 11:06 AM

Subject: Re: [MaxImDL] Re: Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration





> One warning: turning on remote admin seems to disable VNC.

>

> Doug



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#8856 Nov 1, 2003

While VNC is free, remote desktop is a lot faster and better integrated,

especially if you have differing size screens. You can pick the screen

resolution you want to remote, or even remote full screen. It also can

share files over a firewall and allow remoting of serial ports and other

devices. I have found the extra features of XP pro worth the investment

for the remote observatory, especially with DSL where I can log in from

work as well.



Jonathan



-----Original Message-----

From: Paul [mailto:lefevre@...]

Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 9:15 AM

To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [MaxImDL] Re: Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration



As far as I know, *one* of the computers must be XP Pro. XP Home can

be a client, but not a host...only XP Pro can be the host.

That is one of the abilities differentiating XP Home from XP Pro (and

supposedly justifying the extra cost).

Sorry :(



I use VNC, I like it better anyway and it's free! :)



Paul



--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas B. George" dgeorge@c...>

wrote: > Dan Ford Yahoo wrote:

>

> > Speaking of XP Remote Administration, I've upgraded my

observatory > > desktop to a system running XP Home Edition (Host) and my remote

system > > also running XP Home. I've tried setting up the Remote

Administration > > for remote control, however cannot get my remote to recognize the

host > > system. I still use PCAnywhere with both host and remote which

works > > fine, however would like to use RA. Any tips for the proper setup

or a > > link that might explain the setup.

>

> Dan,

>

> Your message got stuck in my anti-spam filter for some bizarre

reason, > so I didn't see it until just now (I get 2500 spams a week -- the

filter > REALLY helps).

>

> I'm afraid I don't have any good suggestions for getting remote

> administration working; I just tried it and it worked. If you have

some > kind of firewall between the two computers it might have an impact.

>

> Doug

>

---------------

>

> Doug George

> dgeorge@c...

>

> Diffraction Limited

> Makers of Cyanogen Imaging Products

> www.cyanogen.com

>

> 100 Craig Henry Drive, Unit 106,

> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K2G 5W3

>

> Phone: (613) 225-2732

> Fax: (613) 225-9688

>

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#8857 Nov 1, 2003

Chris Peterson wrote: > At which end? I can have a Remote Desktop session to one machine and a VNC

> session to another running at the same time without problems.



Server end.



Doug



---------------



Doug George

dgeorge@...



Diffraction Limited

Makers of Cyanogen Imaging Products

www.cyanogen.com



100 Craig Henry Drive, Unit 106,

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K2G 5W3



Phone: (613) 225-2732

Fax: (613) 225-9688



---------------







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#8858 Nov 1, 2003

--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, John Oliver oliver@a...> wrote: >y office I

> have Win2K, at home XPhome, on the road Win98SE. I need to be able

> to remote operate my observatory PCs (all Win98SE) from any of those

> platforms. VNC can, RemoteDesktop can not.



I'm in a similar boat as John.

All my observatory computers run Win98SE with VNC.



But, I'm willing to look at Remote Administration.

What kind of resources does XP and RA require?



BTW, my computers are all old 333MHz machiens with 128MB

of memory



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#8859 Nov 1, 2003

A 333MHz machine with 128MB will run W2K or XP better than it will run W98.

The NT kernel OSs manage resources far, far better. I actually have W2K

running on a 150MHz 64MB machine, and it does better than W98 on the same

machine.



Chris



*****************************************

Chris L Peterson

Cloudbait Observatory

www.cloudbait.com



----- Original Message -----

From: "glinos7124" tg@...>

To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 5:17 PM

Subject: [MaxImDL] Re: Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration





> --- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, John Oliver oliver@a...> wrote:

> >y office I

> > have Win2K, at home XPhome, on the road Win98SE. I need to be able

> > to remote operate my observatory PCs (all Win98SE) from any of those

> > platforms. VNC can, RemoteDesktop can not.

>

> I'm in a similar boat as John.

> All my observatory computers run Win98SE with VNC.

>

> But, I'm willing to look at Remote Administration.

> What kind of resources does XP and RA require?

>

> BTW, my computers are all old 333MHz machiens with 128MB

> of memory



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#8861 Nov 2, 2003

Chris, how did you get Win98 to even agree to install on that 150MHz

machine? I finally gave up with my little laptop with Win98 and kept it at

Win95. Every time I attempt to install Win98 early in the install process it

aborts, saying a P166 is the minimum requirement.



Regardless, I agree with your statement regarding W2K or XP at 128MB/333MHz.

Just getting out from under the curse of the way Win98 manages "system

resources," will be a boon. I would not go under 128MB on XP, however. A

good video card would be useful in that configuration as well, to take some

of the load off the CPU, if any applications tend to be graphics intensive.



Gary Ferdinand

Apex, NC





> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Peterson [mailto:clp@...]

> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 1:20 AM

> To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [MaxImDL] Re: Remote Operation with XP Remote

> Administration

>

>

> A 333MHz machine with 128MB will run W2K or XP better than it

> will run W98.

> The NT kernel OSs manage resources far, far better. I actually have W2K

> running on a 150MHz 64MB machine, and it does better than W98 on the same

> machine.

>

> Chris

>

> *****************************************

> Chris L Peterson

> Cloudbait Observatory

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "glinos7124" tg@...>

> To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 5:17 PM

> Subject: [MaxImDL] Re: Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration

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> > --- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, John Oliver oliver@a...> wrote:

> > >y office I

> > > have Win2K, at home XPhome, on the road Win98SE. I need to be able

> > > to remote operate my observatory PCs (all Win98SE) from any of those

> > > platforms. VNC can, RemoteDesktop can not.

> >

> > I'm in a similar boat as John.

> > All my observatory computers run Win98SE with VNC.

> >

> > But, I'm willing to look at Remote Administration.

> > What kind of resources does XP and RA require?

> >

> > BTW, my computers are all old 333MHz machiens with 128MB

> > of memory

>

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#8862 Nov 2, 2003

I agree with Chris. Switching to W2K will bring a level of stability that

will surprise you. XP is a bit more hungry and avant-garde, but I have both

here running flawlessly for years. Never a blue screen or lockup, and I

develop software! The key, however, is in the hardware and drivers for

same. Not the speed and/or memory, but the quality of the video processor

(mainly), CPU, and other peripherals. Plug a crappy I/O card in and you

lose. A bad driver will ruin your system's stability. I've had excellent

success with ATI RADEON video cards and Adaptec SCSI (for my 4mm DAT backup).



- Bob



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#8863 Nov 2, 2003

I didn't have a problem. The system has a 180MHz Winchip processor that

benchmarks the same as a 150MHz Pentium. So maybe it reports the higher

speed to the installer, or maybe the installer doesn't know the speed at

all. In any case, I doubt too many people will be installing NT on such a

dinosaur. My point was really that the "minimum" specs listed by MS for W2K

and XP aren't at all. In my experience, you actually need more machine to

get good performance from W98 then you do from NT.



Chris



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Chris L Peterson

Cloudbait Observatory

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Gary Ferdinand" alaparos@...>

To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:10 AM

Subject: RE: [MaxImDL] Re: Remote Operation with XP Remote Administration





> Chris, how did you get Win98 to even agree to install on that 150MHz

> machine? I finally gave up with my little laptop with Win98 and kept it at

> Win95. Every time I attempt to install Win98 early in the install process

it

> aborts, saying a P166 is the minimum requirement.

>

> Regardless, I agree with your statement regarding W2K or XP at

128MB/333MHz.

> Just getting out from under the curse of the way Win98 manages "system

> resources," will be a boon. I would not go under 128MB on XP, however. A

> good video card would be useful in that configuration as well, to take

some

> of the load off the CPU, if any applications tend to be graphics

intensive.

>

> Gary Ferdinand

> Apex, NC







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#8865 Nov 2, 2003

From: "Bob Denny" rdenny@...>

>

> Never a blue screen or lockup,



I think they changed the screen of death from blue to black. g>

I have one system with XP Home that periodically was having them and it was always when I was connected to the internet. The message said something like "DRIVER_NOT_LESS_THAN_EQUAL_TO" or something like that. I thought it was probably the modem driver but I still didn't think it should cause my whole system to crash. And I have an $80 US Robotics Performance Pro modem with the latest drivers so I thought it should be top notch.......Anyways I got a two-way satellite internet connection now and since I don't use the modem to surf the net I haven't seen the crashes anymore.



Gil Jones



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#8960 Nov 10, 2003

--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, Dan Ford Yahoo dford1232003@y...>

wrote: > Doug,

>

> Speaking of XP Remote Administration, I've upgraded my observatory

> desktop to a system running XP Home Edition (Host) and my remote

system > also running XP Home. I've tried setting up the Remote

Administration > for remote control,



I have found that an unregistered XP Home version may not permit

Remote Desktop to function correctly. Also, even opening a port in a

firewall is not enough. For ZoneAlarm I could not get it to work

without disabling the firewall.



I use Remote Administrator (www.famatech.com for $35) and it is

awesome. win95, win 98 winnt, xp pro, win2k all talking to each other

with FTP also. I won't leave home without it! I've even used it to

controll systems from across the continent with no trouble, except

getting through firewalls.



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