Re. DeBlooming raw data for PixInsight...


Dec 22, 2003

 


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#9532 Dec 22, 2003

I can't see it in the current version, but are there any plans to

offer a deblooming facility.



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#9536 Dec 23, 2003

lmhobbs2001 wrote:

> I can't see it in the current version, but are there any plans to

> offer a deblooming facility.



Yes.



Doug



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#9542 Dec 23, 2003

In case you didn't know, Ron Wodaski makes a plug-in for Maxim DL

that will debloom an image. Here's a link to his website:



www.newastro.com/newastro/downloads/default.asp#debloomer



When you buy the plug-in for Maxim, you also get the equivalent plug-

in for CCDSoft.



Jonathan

--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "lmhobbs2001" me@l...> wrote:

> I can't see it in the current version, but are there any plans to

> offer a deblooming facility.



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#9572 Dec 27, 2003

Jonathon I already looked at Ron's plug-in and was not very

impressed, it couldn't even install into the correct location. I

didn't like the results and so would maybe give $20 for it, but not

$50.



Perhaps Ron's tool is quite powerful but the manual wasn't that

helpful either. Sorry if I sound a bit critical but as someone

responsible for software quality and reviewing manuals, I was rather

disappointed.



I'll wait a bit and see what the Maxim folks have to offer and

continue to do it manually in Photoshop.



Lilian



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#9574 Dec 28, 2003

Lilian,

SIBG's CCDops has one-image-at-a-time deblooming included. It's a

free download from SBIG's site even if you don't have a SBIG camera.

It works on FITs files. It works pretty well, probably as good as

Ron's most of the time. I did buy Ron's debloomer because I got

tired of deblooming 40 or so images separately. I would agree that

all those settings in Ron's package are rather imposing, but the

defaults seems to work pretty well most of the time. It seemed a

bit pricey to me too.



Phil S.

--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "lmhobbs2001" me@l...> wrote:

> Jonathon I already looked at Ron's plug-in and was not very

> impressed, it couldn't even install into the correct location. I

> didn't like the results and so would maybe give $20 for it, but

not

> $50.

>

> Perhaps Ron's tool is quite powerful but the manual wasn't that

> helpful either. Sorry if I sound a bit critical but as someone

> responsible for software quality and reviewing manuals, I was

rather

> disappointed.

>

> I'll wait a bit and see what the Maxim folks have to offer and

> continue to do it manually in Photoshop.

>

> Lilian



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#9575 Dec 28, 2003

Hi,

A while ago, I purchased Starizona's plugin version of their bloom

removal tool...$80.00 (it was the only one available at the time..and

works quite well)



I think Ron tried to come up with something better (and

cheaper)...many people use both successfully. However it's nice to

know that Maxim will eventually incorporate this (along with sigma

combine and some other goodies)...hopefully in the near future.



Randy Nulman



--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Schumacher" philsch@e...>

wrote: > Lilian,

> SIBG's CCDops has one-image-at-a-time deblooming included. It's a

> free download from SBIG's site even if you don't have a SBIG camera.

> It works on FITs files. It works pretty well, probably as good as

> Ron's most of the time. I did buy Ron's debloomer because I got

> tired of deblooming 40 or so images separately. I would agree that

> all those settings in Ron's package are rather imposing, but the

> defaults seems to work pretty well most of the time. It seemed a

> bit pricey to me too.

>

> Phil S.

>

> --- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "lmhobbs2001" me@l...> wrote:

> > Jonathon I already looked at Ron's plug-in and was not very

> > impressed, it couldn't even install into the correct location. I

> > didn't like the results and so would maybe give $20 for it, but

> not

> > $50.

> >

> > Perhaps Ron's tool is quite powerful but the manual wasn't that

> > helpful either. Sorry if I sound a bit critical but as someone

> > responsible for software quality and reviewing manuals, I was

> rather

> > disappointed.

> >

> > I'll wait a bit and see what the Maxim folks have to offer and

> > continue to do it manually in Photoshop.

> >

> > Lilian



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#20833 Oct 6, 2005

I am currently on the 30 day evaluation of Maxim. I like the debloom

tool, but can't figure out how to do this on a whole file of images.

(I tend to use up to 18 5 minute exposures per channel, and sigma

combine them after aligning. Deblooming is important to get accurate

alignment.)

I have ended up opening all 20 images, and perform deblooming on each

image individually. This isn't terrible, but rather time consuming for

each of the 5 channels (Ha, C, R, G, B).



Any suggestions?



Thanks,

Ruben

www.stardoctor.org







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#20834 Oct 6, 2005

Ruben: Try the View|Command Sequence menu. I believe this will do it.

rb ----- Original Message -----

From: stardoctor5

To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:49 PM

Subject: [MaxImDL] deblooming





I am currently on the 30 day evaluation of Maxim. I like the debloom

tool, but can't figure out how to do this on a whole file of images.

(I tend to use up to 18 5 minute exposures per channel, and sigma

combine them after aligning. Deblooming is important to get accurate

alignment.)

I have ended up opening all 20 images, and perform deblooming on each

image individually. This isn't terrible, but rather time consuming for

each of the 5 channels (Ha, C, R, G, B).



Any suggestions?



Thanks,

Ruben

www.stardoctor.org









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#20835 Oct 6, 2005

--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "stardoctor5" stardoctor5@y...>

wrote: > I am currently on the 30 day evaluation of Maxim. I like the

debloom > tool, but can't figure out how to do this on a whole file of

images.



Provided your images are such that Remove Bloom identifies blooms

properly when you click the Automatic button, you should be able to

use the Command Sequence window to automate this process:



1. Open one image

2. Display the sequencer tool (it's in the View menu)

3. Click the dark red Record button near the bottom of sequencer

4. Select Process, Remove Bloom

5. Set the Saturation Level (if required)

6. Click Automatic (bloom identification)

7. Click OK

8. Back in the sequencer, click Stop

9. Save the current image (or close it without saving if you prefer)

10. Click the >" button in the sequencer to 'unfold' the Process

Queue.

11. You can open a bunch of images in MaxIm DL (using File, Open or

simply drag-n-drop) and add them to the queue using the Images...

button, or you can select image files from the disk to be processed

and then saved back again. Or do both. In any case, when you click

the Play Sequence on Multiple Images button (it looks like a 'fast

forward' button), MaxIm DL should process each image in turn,

automatically identify its blooms, and remove them.



All that said, there have been one or two reports that automatic

deblooming doesn't always sequence properly. This seems to be due to

something in particular users' computers, as the files I've been sent

process correctly on several different systems here. If you are

experiencing this, the alternative to repetitive drudgery is to learn

how to use MaxIm DL's automation interface (scripting methods). It

sounds scary, but isn't really that hard!



Hilderic Browne

Diffraction Limited



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#20837 Oct 6, 2005

Here is a real simple script that I use. I open all the images I want, test the bloom parameters on one of them and then run the script:



Set App = CreateObject("MaxIm.Application")

Set Docs = App.Documents

For Each Doc In Docs

Doc.RemoveBloom (34100)

Next







Tom Carrico

www.ccdargo.com ----- Original Message -----

From: stardoctor5

To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:49 PM

Subject: [MaxImDL] deblooming





I am currently on the 30 day evaluation of Maxim. I like the debloom

tool, but can't figure out how to do this on a whole file of images.

(I tend to use up to 18 5 minute exposures per channel, and sigma

combine them after aligning. Deblooming is important to get accurate

alignment.)

I have ended up opening all 20 images, and perform deblooming on each

image individually. This isn't terrible, but rather time consuming for

each of the 5 channels (Ha, C, R, G, B).



Any suggestions?



Thanks,

Ruben

www.stardoctor.org









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#20886 Oct 10, 2005

Hey, it worked! Thanks for saving me about an hour.

Here is the final result:

www.stardoctor.org/PacMan



Ruben >

> Provided your images are such that Remove Bloom identifies blooms

> properly when you click the Automatic button, you should be able to

> use the Command Sequence window to automate this process:

>

>> Hilderic Browne

> Diffraction Limited

>







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#52409 Mar 6, 2013

Hi



I have a file of about 40 images taken with a STL6303 (NABG camera). The "Add files" stack command aligns, calibrates and combines but does not allow each sub-frame to be debloomed before stacking. Is there a way of doing this?



Thanks for any info



Steve



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#52410 Mar 6, 2013

Hi Steve,



I always use the comand sequence for calibration and debloom bevore I stack them. Here you also can handle bad collums and hot pixels etc.



Gr.sse



Konstantin



Kostantin v. Poschinger





Hammerichstr. 5

22605 Hamburg

040/8805747

0171/1983476



Am 07.03.2013 um 03:47 schrieb "stevec01" stevec@...>:

> Hi

>

> I have a file of about 40 images taken with a STL6303 (NABG camera). The "Add files" stack command aligns, calibrates and combines but does not allow each sub-frame to be debloomed before stacking. Is there a way of doing this?

>

> Thanks for any info

>

> Steve

>

>





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#61465 Apr 27, 2017

I use an SBIG STL6303 for imaging. I have used, and continue to use CCDStack, but recently I have been exploring the capabilities of PixInsight. I especially like the Script Batch Processing function. However, it seems that Pix insight does not have a DeBlooming capability. In addition, when I used the DeBlooming function in CCDStack, I found that PixInsight had issues using the debloomed data as saved from CCDStack, giving errors during the PixInsight batch processing function.



Long story short... I found a procedure that seems to work well. This involves using Ron Wodaski's DeBloomer Plugin in MaximDL, then saving the results for use in PixInsight. PixInsight accepts the debloomed raw data without processing errors. In addition, Wodaski's DeBloomer seems to work much better than the DeBlooming function in CCDStack, especially when the blooming affects adjacent stars, which CCDStack wipes out, while Wodaski's DeBloomer preserves the adjacent star data. Hats off to Ron for creating this wonderful DeBlooming plugin for use in MaximDL.



Of course, this is not a problem for a non-blooming CCD cameras, but I'm not ready as yet to retire my trusty STL6303.



As a side note... Although the learning curve in PixInsight is steep, many of its functions are outstanding, eg, Noise reduction with the multiscalelineartransform function, etc.



Clear Skies,

Mike



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