Re: Question on running MaximDL with Windows 7???


Nov 29, 2014

 


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#58640 Nov 29, 2014

Hi I am currently running MaximDL on my HP PC with windows XPpro. The computer is not working well and I need to get a new one. Can anyone comment on running MaximDL with windows 7? What version are you using? Any problems? Anybody running MAximDL with a Mac? thanks Craig



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#58641 Nov 29, 2014

Maxim will run just fine on Windows 7 or Windows 8 (probably better than

it does on XP). Doesn't matter the OS version or whether it's 32 or 64

bit. No special actions are required to install it or make it operate.



Chris



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Chris L Peterson

Cloudbait Observatory

www.cloudbait.com

On 11/29/2014 2:15 PM, butterman848@... [MaxImDL] wrote:

> Hi I am currently running MaximDL on my HP PC with windows XPpro. The computer is not working well and I need to get a new one. Can anyone comment on running MaximDL with windows 7? What version are you using? Any problems? Anybody running MAximDL with a Mac? thanks Craig

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#58642 Nov 29, 2014

Thanks Chris



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#58643 Nov 29, 2014

I also use Win 7 Pro and have not experienced any problem. It works just fine. I like Win 7 better than Win 8.I have Win 8 on a new computer and I am not impressed by the menus.GaryCarpe NoctemSent From My Spaceship via Nexus 5On Nov 29, 2014 2:32 PM, "Chris Peterson lists@... [MaxImDL]" MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

.Maxim will run just fine on Windows 7 or Windows 8 (probably better than

it does on XP). Doesn't matter the OS version or whether it's 32 or 64

bit. No special actions are required to install it or make it operate.



Chris



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Chris L Peterson

Cloudbait Observatory

www.cloudbait.com



On 11/29/2014 2:15 PM, butterman848@... [MaxImDL] wrote:

> Hi I am currently running MaximDL on my HP PC with windows XPpro. The computer is not working well and I need to get a new one. Can anyone comment on running MaximDL with windows 7? What version are you using? Any problems? Anybody running MAximDL with a Mac? thanks Craig

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#58644 Nov 29, 2014

GaryDownload Classic Shell. That makes Win 8 look more like Win 7.Don

From: "Gary Jarrette garyjarrette@... [MaxImDL]" MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com> To: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [MaxImDL] Question on running MaximDL with Windows 7???

��I also use Win 7 Pro and have not experienced any problem. It works just fine. I like Win 7 better than Win 8.I have Win 8 on a new computer and I am not impressed by the menus.GaryCarpe NoctemSent From My Spaceship via Nexus 5



On Nov 29, 2014 2:32 PM, "Chris Peterson lists@... [MaxImDL]" MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

��Maxim will run just fine on Windows 7 or Windows 8 (probably better than

it does on XP). Doesn't matter the OS version or whether it's 32 or 64

bit. No special actions are required to install it or make it operate.



Chris



*******************************

Chris L Peterson

Cloudbait Observatory

www.cloudbait.com



On 11/29/2014 2:15 PM, butterman848@... [MaxImDL] wrote:

> Hi I am currently running MaximDL on my HP PC with windows XPpro. The computer is not working well and I need to get a new one. Can anyone comment on running MaximDL with windows 7? What version are you using? Any problems? Anybody running MAximDL with a Mac? thanks Craig

>

>



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#58645 Nov 29, 2014

If the menu system of Windows 8, which looks like a tablet, annoys you, or makes life more difficult, consider the small program from Stardock known as .Start8.. It returns the user interface of Windows 7, while allowing you the advantages of Windows 8. See here for Start8. ��www.stardock.com/products/start8/ ��Greg ��From: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, 30 November 2014 11:39 AMTo: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [MaxImDL] Question on running MaximDL with Windows 7???



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#58646 Nov 29, 2014

Win 8.1 is a better OS. Lots of fixes under the hood- probably a similar

improvement over W7 as W7 was over XP. I use Classic Shell to fix the

user interface nightmare. It basically gives you back the standard

desktop you're used to, and lets you lock out all the annoying corner

toggles and Metro apps. Best of both worlds, that way.



Chris



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Chris L Peterson

Cloudbait Observatory

www.cloudbait.com

On 11/29/2014 5:39 PM, Gary Jarrette garyjarrette@... [MaxImDL] wrote:

> I also use Win 7 Pro and have not experienced any problem. It works just

> fine. I like Win 7 better than Win 8.

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> I have Win 8 on a new computer and I am not impressed by the menus.

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> Gary



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#58647 Nov 29, 2014

Assuming that you are using the computer fundamentally as an image acquisition machine there really isn.t much difference at this point between using Win7 and Win8 for MaximDL as well as for most Astro software.There have been claims and counter claims with regards to .fixes., .improvements., bugs, etc. but to answer your question I think that you.ll find whichever one you use will be just fine with MaximDL.Check with Diffraction and I think that.s what they.ll say.Rgrds-Ross ��From: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:06 PMTo: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [MaxImDL] Question on running MaximDL with Windows 7???







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#58648 Nov 30, 2014

I've run Maxim 5 & 6 under Windows 7 on a Mac using VMware for acquisition. I've had no issues related to Wn 7 or the Mac.��

Pete



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#58649 Nov 30, 2014

Hi again Great responses to my question, thanks. I have a further question. As I am setting up my next PC I wish to do planetary imaging. For the Image Source and Point Grey cameras a firewire bus�� (1394b) and cabling is needed. Is anyone running these cameras on their systems. Thanks again Craig



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#58650 Nov 30, 2014

One last comment. LOL Yea sure, one???? Brace yourself.I have one new machine with Win 8.1 on it which replaced my XP machine. My transition from my XP machine to Win 7 was pretty much seamless. There is not a dimes worth of difference in the desktop and it works the same. At this stage, and it is rather early, I am not getting the "seamless" feeling from Win 8.1. I could not drag and drop shortcuts to the desk top, at least not yet but I am leaning. It also "seems" that to get from one place to another you have to do a lot of backing up or starting over to get to a particular menu.You will have to learn where to place the mouse. "hover" to have secret menu's magically appear. This means side, top right corner, right side, etc. To me I never know which one is needed or where it is or if it even exists for that application.The screen for the programs needs two clicks through two menus to get there. Once you arrive your entire screen is filled from side to side with what looks like a telephone book of names of programs on a never ending list that scrolls from left too right and then some . It always takes me forever to find the right programs. Perhaps there is a way to change that too the icon view but I have not used it enough to have that figured out yet so I must very carefully read every line and column. The familiar icons are shrunk down and difficult to distinguish one from the other. Even shutting down is a bit tricky. You can go all the way to the top right corner or to the familiar bottom left corner but be warned the bottom left corner has very small pop out menus that if you are not very careful with the mouse you can slip off of generating the need to reinitiate the sequence. Yes you can always push the power button but I was never really comfortable with that least I force a shutdown screwing something up.To me Win 8.1 wants to have many more permissions to get things done. It seems over cautious but in this day and age of cybercrime it is probably necessary, kind of like flying now which requires you to walk shoeless over ground that has absorbed the stink and sweat of millions of people that have athlete's foot while your body is bombarded with X-Rays, and is probed in your most private places by people with an IQ of 85.I can go on and on infinitum but will not least I defend all my observations one by one.To me an operating system is just that. It is an end to a means. I don't want to spend a year learning the system I just want it to launch the programs I use which are many from Computer Aided Design and CNC machining, all my astronomical programs, and the usual Microsoft stuff and browser.I am not interested in a new look of a desktop that for the most part is just used to justify the purchase of said system. It is mostly a question of fashion me thinks!I opened up the new FocusMax last night and could not even"intuitively" get to square one. It was do different that I must now actually read the manual or just give up on it. Now where would I be if I had that on a Win 8.1 screen, I shudder to think.If you are new to astronomy and do not have a plethora of programs that you are already familiar with then by all means go Win 8.1 because it will not inhibitive you as you will be overwhelmed anyway trying to configure everything, but if you are use to XP you will hardly notice the difference in the Desktop from XP to Win 7. and how it works it's the same.If you want to play computer then get 8.1. If you want to play astronomy get 7. If you have one computer and are starting out fresh get 8.1. If you have five other computers like I have with 7 on them then why would I want to strain an already dwindling supply of viable brain cells on a system that IMHO is not really needed. What are the benefits really? Someone please quantify them and let us make a real comparison as to cost vs benefit or learning curve vs benefit.I believe you can get Win 7 for about $69.00 now. At least I can. I think the full blown Win 8.1 weighs in at about 2 C notes. For the younger generation "C Notes" are Benjamins or $100.00 dollar bills. So there is a cost associated that could be a consideration.Allow me yo digress for a moment.I don't know how many of you are aware of this but Microsoft has a program ,a way in which if you qualify, you can purchase their programs for less then half of the going price. I have a University email address as retired staff that still does work for Arizona State University that qualifies me for the discount. If you are a student you qualify for the discount also. I am taking some classes so I am OK on that count also. I recently purchased Win 8.1 Tax included for $75.00. They call it the Student Edition but I am pretty sure it is all there.Well that's it in a nut shell and quite a tome I must admit but I am not one to penny pinch when it comes to words. With me "you puts your money down and you takes your chances but usually gets your monies. worth".Like I always say "the proof is in the pudding". Find someone with a Win 8.1 machine and ask them to let you try it with absolutely no guidance from them, NONE!. Do the same with Win 7.Would you buy a car without test driving it? Why should it be any different with an operating system you are about to get into bed with and will be there for many years to come.Is Win 8.1 really head and shoulders above anything out there. If the answer is yes then you have answered your own question.Well that is my 1,765,729,654 cents worth.Remember you asked the question and and have opened Pandora's box and must now suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

GaryCarpe NoctemSent From My Spaceship via Nexus 5On Nov 30, 2014 7:25 AM, "butterman848@... [MaxImDL]" MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

.Hi again Great responses to my question, thanks. I have a further question. As I am setting up my next PC I wish to do planetary imaging. For the Image Source and Point Grey cameras a firewire bus. (1394b) and cabling is needed. Is anyone running these cameras on their systems. Thanks again Craig







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#58651 Nov 30, 2014

WOW That was a tome. Had to look up Carpe Noctem. There has been some issues brought up about Windows 8 in this thread. Similar to your feelings I have no real interest in the flash that developer put into new software etc. My interest is the sky. I have been convinced by the comments here that windows 7 is the way to go for me. Lastly any comment on running astronomy software with any of the additions. Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate? Thanks everyone for helping with question. thanks Craig



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#58654 Nov 30, 2014

I run it on W7 on a variety of Dells with little problem with the computer.�� Computers as old as D630s.��

If you have specific questions you might try their new Forum and put in an owner help request.��

Cyanogen Software (Registered Customers Only) | Diffraction Limited - SBIG / Cyanogen Forum

Cyanogen Software (Registered Customers Only) | Diffraction Limited - SBIG / Cyanogen Forum MaxIm DL, MaxPoint, Quick Fringe



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#58656 Dec 1, 2014

Don't recall anyone mentioning it but MS changed hardware specs with Win 8.. Many USB to RS232 adapters will not work with 8 and never will.. Just like they changed the USB cam specs in Win 7 obsoleting a lot of web cam based planetary cams.



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#58659 Dec 1, 2014

Hi William,

My experience going to Win 8.1 was that the USB/Serial adapters didn't work (as you said) however going to the adapter's web site and getting a new driver made for 8.1 allows them to work fine.

Don

---In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, bberg100@...> wrote :

Don't recall anyone mentioning it but MS changed hardware specs with Win 8.�� Many USB to RS232 adapters will not work with 8 and never will.�� Just like they changed the USB cam specs in Win 7 obsoleting a lot of web cam based planetary cams.



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