Re: Question about Vista 64 bit and telescope drivers


Jun 12, 2009

 


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#37108 Jun 12, 2009

I would like to purchase maximdl 5.00 with automated tpoint, as soon as I can get back to astronomy.

I am using Bartels system which has an lx200 emulation.

the thing that is holding me up is the ascom drivers, which

don't work for me under vista 64 (my current laptop)



I was wondering whether maxim has addressed this compatibility issue

with vista 64.

Does maxim have his own telescope drivers?

Or am I stuck with ascom?

In this case I could not use tpoint, obviously.





thanks in advance



-luca



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#37111 Jun 13, 2009

Luca:



I don't think MaximDL comes with TPoint.

I think MaximDL has an upgrade called Maxpoint.



It comes with something similar.



I am running XP 32.



I use TPoint on The Sky version 6.

My MaximDL talks to The Sky version 6 via "The Sky Contolled Telescope"

and not thought MaximDL.

This support the Paramount (only supported from The Sky) and T point.



So, ASCOM does not get involved in my setup.



Larry





luca_grella wrote: > I would like to purchase maximdl 5.00 with automated tpoint, as soon as I can get back to astronomy.

> I am using Bartels system which has an lx200 emulation.

> the thing that is holding me up is the ascom drivers, which

> don't work for me under vista 64 (my current laptop)

>

> I was wondering whether maxim has addressed this compatibility issue

> with vista 64.

> Does maxim have his own telescope drivers?

> Or am I stuck with ascom?

> In this case I could not use tpoint, obviously.

>

>

> thanks in advance

>

> -luca

>

>

>

>

>

---------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>



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#37112 Jun 13, 2009

I believe Maxpoint contains a version of T-Point "Lite" that uses a

massive data base for plate solving in an automatic model building

procedure (as opposed to the manual calibration). I have not been too

successful in making it work - it's very particular about where you put

the data base on your computer drive, and when I lived in the light dome

of Albuquerque I could not reliably get the plate solver to succeed

owing to poor contrast in the light-bathed skies.



Perhaps someone could point out where the latest data base can be

obtained and how to install it so Maxpoint will see it.



Haven't really tried it now that I live in dark-sky East Mountains. I

like the concept of Maxpoint - it acts as a telescope hub in addition to

producing a pointing model and other cool things, but I am not sure I

really understand how it works, or maybe more properly put, interacts

with my Gemini controller for my G-11. The pointing model in the Gemini

is pretty quick to develop and very robust.



I wouldn't mind seeing some discussion on Maxpoint here, especially tips

and tricks on making it work well and peacefully with the Gemini.



Randy



--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence D. Lopez" lopez@...> wrote:

>

> Luca:

>

> I don't think MaximDL comes with TPoint.

> I think MaximDL has an upgrade called Maxpoint.

>

> It comes with something similar.

>

> I am running XP 32.

>

> I use TPoint on The Sky version 6.

> My MaximDL talks to The Sky version 6 via "The Sky Contolled

Telescope"

> and not thought MaximDL.

> This support the Paramount (only supported from The Sky) and T point.

>

> So, ASCOM does not get involved in my setup.

>

> Larry

>

>

> luca_grella wrote:

> > I would like to purchase maximdl 5.00 with automated tpoint, as soon

as I can get back to astronomy.

> > I am using Bartels system which has an lx200 emulation.

> > the thing that is holding me up is the ascom drivers, which

> > don't work for me under vista 64 (my current laptop)

> >

> > I was wondering whether maxim has addressed this compatibility issue

> > with vista 64.

> > Does maxim have his own telescope drivers?

> > Or am I stuck with ascom?

> > In this case I could not use tpoint, obviously.

> >

> >

> > thanks in advance

> >

> > -luca

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

---------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>









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#37114 Jun 13, 2009

Hi. Maybe with "TPoint" you are really refering to PinPoint (the astrometric engine). For the instructions about downloading a star catalog and how to configure it, take a look at:

support.dc3.com/wsx/%24webstar.exe/prob?129



Fernando



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De: rogauntt rogauntt@...>

Para: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

Enviado: s.bado, 13 de junio, 2009 15:42:29

Asunto: [MaxImDL] Re: Question about Vista 64 bit and telescope drivers













I believe Maxpoint contains a version of T-Point "Lite" that uses a

massive data base for plate solving in an automatic model building

procedure (as opposed to the manual calibration) . I have not been too

successful in making it work - it's very particular about where you put

the data base on your computer drive, and when I lived in the light dome

of Albuquerque I could not reliably get the plate solver to succeed

owing to poor contrast in the light-bathed skies.



Perhaps someone could point out where the latest data base can be

obtained and how to install it so Maxpoint will see it.



Haven't really tried it now that I live in dark-sky East Mountains. I

like the concept of Maxpoint - it acts as a telescope hub in addition to

producing a pointing model and other cool things, but I am not sure I

really understand how it works, or maybe more properly put, interacts

with my Gemini controller for my G-11. The pointing model in the Gemini

is pretty quick to develop and very robust.



I wouldn't mind seeing some discussion on Maxpoint here, especially tips

and tricks on making it work well and peacefully with the Gemini.



Randy

--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups .com, "Lawrence D. Lopez" lopez@...> wrote:

>

> Luca:

>

> I don't think MaximDL comes with TPoint.

> I think MaximDL has an upgrade called Maxpoint.

>

> It comes with something similar.

>

> I am running XP 32.

>

> I use TPoint on The Sky version 6.

> My MaximDL talks to The Sky version 6 via "The Sky Contolled

Telescope"

> and not thought MaximDL.

> This support the Paramount (only supported from The Sky) and T point.

>

> So, ASCOM does not get involved in my setup.

>

> Larry

>

>

> luca_grella wrote:

> > I would like to purchase maximdl 5.00 with automated tpoint, as soon

as I can get back to astronomy.

> > I am using Bartels system which has an lx200 emulation.

> > the thing that is holding me up is the ascom drivers, which

> > don't work for me under vista 64 (my current laptop)

> >

> > I was wondering whether maxim has addressed this compatibility issue

> > with vista 64.

> > Does maxim have his own telescope drivers?

> > Or am I stuck with ascom?

> > In this case I could not use tpoint, obviously.

> >

> >

> > thanks in advance

> >

> > -luca

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>



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#37115 Jun 13, 2009

Randy:



No, T Point is used by The Sky.

Max Point is used by Maxim DL.



Pinpoint is the plate solver for Maxim DL.

There is a ungrade to PinPoint.



Pinpoint works very well.



PinPoint does need to know where the data base is.

If you set it to the wrong place it won't work.



Larry



rogauntt wrote: > I believe Maxpoint contains a version of T-Point "Lite" that uses a

> massive data base for plate solving in an automatic model building

> procedure (as opposed to the manual calibration). I have not been too

> successful in making it work - it's very particular about where you put

> the data base on your computer drive, and when I lived in the light dome

> of Albuquerque I could not reliably get the plate solver to succeed

> owing to poor contrast in the light-bathed skies.

>

> Perhaps someone could point out where the latest data base can be

> obtained and how to install it so Maxpoint will see it.

>

> Haven't really tried it now that I live in dark-sky East Mountains. I

> like the concept of Maxpoint - it acts as a telescope hub in addition to

> producing a pointing model and other cool things, but I am not sure I

> really understand how it works, or maybe more properly put, interacts

> with my Gemini controller for my G-11. The pointing model in the Gemini

> is pretty quick to develop and very robust.

>

> I wouldn't mind seeing some discussion on Maxpoint here, especially tips

> and tricks on making it work well and peacefully with the Gemini.

>

> Randy

>

>

> --- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence D. Lopez" lopez@...> wrote:

>

>> Luca:

>>

>> I don't think MaximDL comes with TPoint.

>> I think MaximDL has an upgrade called Maxpoint.

>>

>> It comes with something similar.

>>

>> I am running XP 32.

>>

>> I use TPoint on The Sky version 6.

>> My MaximDL talks to The Sky version 6 via "The Sky Contolled

>>

> Telescope"

>

>> and not thought MaximDL.

>> This support the Paramount (only supported from The Sky) and T point.

>>

>> So, ASCOM does not get involved in my setup.

>>

>> Larry

>>

>>

>> luca_grella wrote:

>>

>>> I would like to purchase maximdl 5.00 with automated tpoint, as soon

>>>

> as I can get back to astronomy.

>

>>> I am using Bartels system which has an lx200 emulation.

>>> the thing that is holding me up is the ascom drivers, which

>>> don't work for me under vista 64 (my current laptop)

>>>

>>> I was wondering whether maxim has addressed this compatibility issue

>>> with vista 64.

>>> Does maxim have his own telescope drivers?

>>> Or am I stuck with ascom?

>>> In this case I could not use tpoint, obviously.

>>>

>>>

>>> thanks in advance

>>>

>>> -luca

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

---------------

>>>

>>> Yahoo! Groups Links

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

---------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>



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#37116 Jun 13, 2009

Some examples of a plate solve.

This is M13 10 second exposure F4.9 on a FLI Proline 6303E C1



GSC-1.1 (corrected)

Locating stars in image

Looking up stars in catalog

Solving using 522 image and 897 catalog stars

Matched 199 of 522 image and 897 catalog stars;

Average residual 0.4 arcsec; order 4

RA 16h 41m 34s, Dec 36d 29m 49s

Pos Angle +177. 51', FL 1469.9 mm, 1.26"/Pixel



Tycho 2

Locating stars in image

Looking up stars in catalog

Solving using 522 image and 58 catalog stars

Matched 22 of 522 image and 58 catalog stars;

Average residual 0.6 arcsec; order 2

RA 16h 41m 34s, Dec 36d 29m 49s

Pos Angle +177. 51', FL 1472.5 mm, 1.26"/Pixel



USNO-A2.0

Locating stars in image

Looking up stars in catalog

Solving using 522 image and 12782 catalog stars

Matched 166 of 522 image and 12782 catalog stars;

Average residual 0.5 arcsec; order 4

RA 16h 41m 34s, Dec 36d 29m 50s

Pos Angle +177. 52', FL 1469.7 mm, 1.26"/Pixel





Fernando Campuzano wrote: > Hi. Maybe with "TPoint" you are really refering to PinPoint (the astrometric engine). For the instructions about downloading a star catalog and how to configure it, take a look at:

> support.dc3.com/wsx/%24webstar.exe/prob?129

>

> Fernando

>

>

>

>

>

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> De: rogauntt rogauntt@...>

> Para: MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com

> Enviado: s.bado, 13 de junio, 2009 15:42:29

> Asunto: [MaxImDL] Re: Question about Vista 64 bit and telescope drivers

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I believe Maxpoint contains a version of T-Point "Lite" that uses a

> massive data base for plate solving in an automatic model building

> procedure (as opposed to the manual calibration) . I have not been too

> successful in making it work - it's very particular about where you put

> the data base on your computer drive, and when I lived in the light dome

> of Albuquerque I could not reliably get the plate solver to succeed

> owing to poor contrast in the light-bathed skies.

>

> Perhaps someone could point out where the latest data base can be

> obtained and how to install it so Maxpoint will see it.

>

> Haven't really tried it now that I live in dark-sky East Mountains. I

> like the concept of Maxpoint - it acts as a telescope hub in addition to

> producing a pointing model and other cool things, but I am not sure I

> really understand how it works, or maybe more properly put, interacts

> with my Gemini controller for my G-11. The pointing model in the Gemini

> is pretty quick to develop and very robust.

>

> I wouldn't mind seeing some discussion on Maxpoint here, especially tips

> and tricks on making it work well and peacefully with the Gemini.

>

> Randy

>

> --- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups .com, "Lawrence D. Lopez" lopez@...> wrote:

>

>> Luca:

>>

>> I don't think MaximDL comes with TPoint.

>> I think MaximDL has an upgrade called Maxpoint.

>>

>> It comes with something similar.

>>

>> I am running XP 32.

>>

>> I use TPoint on The Sky version 6.

>> My MaximDL talks to The Sky version 6 via "The Sky Contolled

>>

> Telescope"

>

>> and not thought MaximDL.

>> This support the Paramount (only supported from The Sky) and T point.

>>

>> So, ASCOM does not get involved in my setup.

>>

>> Larry

>>

>>

>> luca_grella wrote:

>>

>>> I would like to purchase maximdl 5.00 with automated tpoint, as soon

>>>

> as I can get back to astronomy.

>

>>> I am using Bartels system which has an lx200 emulation.

>>> the thing that is holding me up is the ascom drivers, which

>>> don't work for me under vista 64 (my current laptop)

>>>

>>> I was wondering whether maxim has addressed this compatibility issue

>>> with vista 64.

>>> Does maxim have his own telescope drivers?

>>> Or am I stuck with ascom?

>>> In this case I could not use tpoint, obviously.

>>>

>>>

>>> thanks in advance

>>>

>>> -luca

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>>>

>>> Yahoo! Groups Links

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

---------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>







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#37117 Jun 13, 2009

Sorry to everybody,



What I meant is MaxPoint with pinpoint,

....I was tired after all that vista tweaking.



> I would like to purchase maximdl 5.00 with automated tpoint, as soon >as I can get back to astronomy.

> I am using Bartels system which has an lx200 emulation.



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#37118 Jun 13, 2009

Luca:



I'm finding this very helpful.

I have an 8G system just sitting their and I'd love to put it in my

observatory.



Larry



luca_grella wrote: > Sorry to everybody,

>

> What I meant is MaxPoint with pinpoint,

> ....I was tired after all that vista tweaking.

>

>

>

>> I would like to purchase maximdl 5.00 with automated tpoint, as soon >as I can get back to astronomy.

>> I am using Bartels system which has an lx200 emulation.

>>

>

>

>

>

---------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>



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#37119 Jun 13, 2009

--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "luca_grella" luca_grella@...> wrote: >

> Does maxim have his own telescope drivers?



No.

> Or am I stuck with ascom?



Yes.



-Adam



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#37121 Jun 13, 2009

Adam, thanks for the clear answer.

Being stuck with ascom means beaing stuck with xp, not really an option.



So maybe you know whether maxim can use also direct serial link

with lx200, without using ascom ?





thanks again.





--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "malanalan" malanalan@...> wrote >

> > Or am I stuck with ascom?

>

> Yes.

>

> -Adam

>



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#37122 Jun 13, 2009

--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "luca_grella" luca_grella@...> wrote: >

>

> So maybe you know whether maxim can use also direct serial link

> with lx200, without using ascom ?

>



MaximDL uses ASCOM exclusively for the telescope control. Regrettably, it does not support directly the LX200 protocol. You will also have a problem with camera drivers on 64 bit Vista.



-Adam



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#37123 Jun 13, 2009

malanalan wrote:

> MaximDL uses ASCOM exclusively for the telescope control. Regrettably, it

> does not support directly the LX200 protocol. You will also have a problem

> with camera drivers on 64 bit Vista.



If you have issues with ASCOM on 64-bit systems, you should log onto the

ASCOM-Talk YahooGroup for assistance.



Some camera drivers *will* operate on Vista 64. SBIG recently released support

for Vista 64, and we have verified that it works very well with MaxIm DL. Other

vendors have indicated that they are making the transition. We should see a

general migration towards 64-bit support over the next year.



Doug



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#37124 Jun 13, 2009

You are right. I stand corrected. T-Point, PinPoint, something-point!



I am going to try it again now tht I have dark skies in my life.



Randy

--- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence D. Lopez" lopez@...> wrote:

>

> Randy:

>

> No, T Point is used by The Sky.

> Max Point is used by Maxim DL.

>

> Pinpoint is the plate solver for Maxim DL.

> There is a ungrade to PinPoint.

>

> Pinpoint works very well.

>

> PinPoint does need to know where the data base is.

> If you set it to the wrong place it won't work.

>

> Larry

>

> rogauntt wrote:

> > I believe Maxpoint contains a version of T-Point "Lite" that uses a

> > massive data base for plate solving in an automatic model building

> > procedure (as opposed to the manual calibration). I have not been too

> > successful in making it work - it's very particular about where you put

> > the data base on your computer drive, and when I lived in the light dome

> > of Albuquerque I could not reliably get the plate solver to succeed

> > owing to poor contrast in the light-bathed skies.

> >

> > Perhaps someone could point out where the latest data base can be

> > obtained and how to install it so Maxpoint will see it.

> >

> > Haven't really tried it now that I live in dark-sky East Mountains. I

> > like the concept of Maxpoint - it acts as a telescope hub in addition to

> > producing a pointing model and other cool things, but I am not sure I

> > really understand how it works, or maybe more properly put, interacts

> > with my Gemini controller for my G-11. The pointing model in the Gemini

> > is pretty quick to develop and very robust.

> >

> > I wouldn't mind seeing some discussion on Maxpoint here, especially tips

> > and tricks on making it work well and peacefully with the Gemini.

> >

> > Randy

> >

> >

> > --- In MaxImDL@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence D. Lopez" lopez@> wrote:

> >

> >> Luca:

> >>

> >> I don't think MaximDL comes with TPoint.

> >> I think MaximDL has an upgrade called Maxpoint.

> >>

> >> It comes with something similar.

> >>

> >> I am running XP 32.

> >>

> >> I use TPoint on The Sky version 6.

> >> My MaximDL talks to The Sky version 6 via "The Sky Contolled

> >>

> > Telescope"

> >

> >> and not thought MaximDL.

> >> This support the Paramount (only supported from The Sky) and T point.

> >>

> >> So, ASCOM does not get involved in my setup.

> >>

> >> Larry

> >>

> >>

> >> luca_grella wrote:

> >>

> >>> I would like to purchase maximdl 5.00 with automated tpoint, as soon

> >>>

> > as I can get back to astronomy.

> >

> >>> I am using Bartels system which has an lx200 emulation.

> >>> the thing that is holding me up is the ascom drivers, which

> >>> don't work for me under vista 64 (my current laptop)

> >>>

> >>> I was wondering whether maxim has addressed this compatibility issue

> >>> with vista 64.

> >>> Does maxim have his own telescope drivers?

> >>> Or am I stuck with ascom?

> >>> In this case I could not use tpoint, obviously.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> thanks in advance

> >>>

> >>> -luca

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

---------------

> >>>

> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

---------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>







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