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Re: [Losmandy_users] Re: G11 Permanent Pier Mounting


Aug 20, 2004

 


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#22034 Aug 20, 2004

I currently have a permanent pier setup on the deck in my backyard

where I use my Meade 2120 for observing. The telescope and fork mount

are brought outside each night that I observe, and then taken back

inside after each session. I am considering the purchase of the G11

to be able to better pursue digital astrophotography.



I was wondering what the experience of the group is with the G11 (or

G8) mount as far as permanent pier installations, especially in the

deep, humid south where I live. Is it safe to leave G11 mount

outdoors, suitably protected, or do most users bring it in after

every observing session?



If left outside, is suitable protecton considered a closed roof

observatory, or will something such as a desert storm cover provide

enough protection?



I guess I ask because with a precision mount such as the G11, it

would seem that leaving it setup after it was properly polar aligned

would be preferable to putting it on the pier and taking it off each

night. Or is it possible to do this and maintain a good polar

alignment each night?



Forgive me for my ignorance, but this would be my first venture into

a truly electronically controlled scope, and for the money paid I

would certainly want to care for it properly.



Thanks for your help,



Claude



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#22041 Aug 21, 2004

Claude,



I've had my mount in a dome without temperature/humidity control this

Summer...in Florida. No ill effects noticed...in fact, it just survived

Hurricane Charley.



Every time we get rain some moisture collects on the floor of the dome, so

I have the scope/mount covered with an inexpensive tarp from Home Depot to

prevent it from having water fall directly on it and getting inside

something. I just draped it over the scope/mount to cover the OTA and

electronics...it is not gathered and tied at the bottom, allowing it to

breath. I typically take my refractor with me, so I can use it between

visits to the dome, but have left my SCT on the mount...after Charley, I've

now decided it would make more sense to take the SCT off the mount and put

it back in its case...more setup time to use my scope, but much safer during

hurricane season.



If you have an observatory, you'll be fine leaving everything set up.



If you don't, I would take the electronics off, taking them inside with

you, and cover the mount with a Desert Storm cover (you might have to

replace the cover annually, give-or-take, depending on how severe the

weather is in your area...still a lot cheaper than erecting an observatory).



If your pier is well constructed, polar alignment should hold between

sessions.



Forrest Egan

fegan@...

www.digitalastro.com





-----Original Message-----

From: cetialpha4 [mailto:cetialpha4@...]

Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:41 AM

To: Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Losmandy_users] G11 Permanent Pier Mounting





I currently have a permanent pier setup on the deck in my backyard

where I use my Meade 2120 for observing. The telescope and fork mount

are brought outside each night that I observe, and then taken back

inside after each session. I am considering the purchase of the G11

to be able to better pursue digital astrophotography.



I was wondering what the experience of the group is with the G11 (or

G8) mount as far as permanent pier installations, especially in the

deep, humid south where I live. Is it safe to leave G11 mount

outdoors, suitably protected, or do most users bring it in after

every observing session?



If left outside, is suitable protecton considered a closed roof

observatory, or will something such as a desert storm cover provide

enough protection?



I guess I ask because with a precision mount such as the G11, it

would seem that leaving it setup after it was properly polar aligned

would be preferable to putting it on the pier and taking it off each

night. Or is it possible to do this and maintain a good polar

alignment each night?



Forgive me for my ignorance, but this would be my first venture into

a truly electronically controlled scope, and for the money paid I

would certainly want to care for it properly.



Thanks for your help,



Claude



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#22044 Aug 21, 2004

Claude,



I have my G11/Gemini setup outside on a permanent pier. It's been on

it for the last three years, covered by an equivalent of a desert

storm cover. I do take the electronics inside most of the time,

unless I expect the weather to cooperate for a few nights in a row

(can't remember the last time this has happened ;-(



I'm located in the North East US and the weather here is extremely

humid in the summer, and pretty cold (as low as 0F) in the winter.



I've seen no ill effects on the mount. It is made of non-corrosive

materials, and appears to resist moisture well. Insects are another

matter, though :)



I do regrease the mount about once a year, and grease all threads,

screws, etc. that are exposed.



Regards,



-Paul



--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "cetialpha4" cetialpha4@y...>

wrote: > I currently have a permanent pier setup on the deck in my backyard

> where I use my Meade 2120 for observing. The telescope and fork

mount > are brought outside each night that I observe, and then taken back

> inside after each session. I am considering the purchase of the G11

> to be able to better pursue digital astrophotography.

>

> I was wondering what the experience of the group is with the G11

(or > G8) mount as far as permanent pier installations, especially in the

> deep, humid south where I live. Is it safe to leave G11 mount

> outdoors, suitably protected, or do most users bring it in after

> every observing session?

>

> If left outside, is suitable protecton considered a closed roof

> observatory, or will something such as a desert storm cover provide

> enough protection?

>

> I guess I ask because with a precision mount such as the G11, it

> would seem that leaving it setup after it was properly polar

aligned > would be preferable to putting it on the pier and taking it off

each > night. Or is it possible to do this and maintain a good polar

> alignment each night?

>

> Forgive me for my ignorance, but this would be my first venture

into > a truly electronically controlled scope, and for the money paid I

> would certainly want to care for it properly.

>

> Thanks for your help,

>

> Claude







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#22045 Aug 21, 2004

Paul,



I'm guessing you take the optics in though, right? How does your alignment and pointing do--or do you re-build your model each time?



Take care,

Bob ----- Original Message -----

From: Paul K

To: Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:41 AM

Subject: [Losmandy_users] Re: G11 Permanent Pier Mounting





Claude,



I have my G11/Gemini setup outside on a permanent pier. It's been on

it for the last three years, covered by an equivalent of a desert

storm cover. I do take the electronics inside most of the time,

unless I expect the weather to cooperate for a few nights in a row

(can't remember the last time this has happened ;-(



I'm located in the North East US and the weather here is extremely

humid in the summer, and pretty cold (as low as 0F) in the winter.



I've seen no ill effects on the mount. It is made of non-corrosive

materials, and appears to resist moisture well. Insects are another

matter, though :)



I do regrease the mount about once a year, and grease all threads,

screws, etc. that are exposed.



Regards,



-Paul



--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "cetialpha4" cetialpha4@y...>

wrote:

> I currently have a permanent pier setup on the deck in my backyard

> where I use my Meade 2120 for observing. The telescope and fork

mount

> are brought outside each night that I observe, and then taken back

> inside after each session. I am considering the purchase of the G11

> to be able to better pursue digital astrophotography.

>

> I was wondering what the experience of the group is with the G11

(or

> G8) mount as far as permanent pier installations, especially in the

> deep, humid south where I live. Is it safe to leave G11 mount

> outdoors, suitably protected, or do most users bring it in after

> every observing session?

>

> If left outside, is suitable protecton considered a closed roof

> observatory, or will something such as a desert storm cover provide

> enough protection?

>

> I guess I ask because with a precision mount such as the G11, it

> would seem that leaving it setup after it was properly polar

aligned

> would be preferable to putting it on the pier and taking it off

each

> night. Or is it possible to do this and maintain a good polar

> alignment each night?

>

> Forgive me for my ignorance, but this would be my first venture

into

> a truly electronically controlled scope, and for the money paid I

> would certainly want to care for it properly.

>

> Thanks for your help,

>

> Claude











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#22048 Aug 21, 2004

Claude,



I have been using a G11 on a permanent pier for about a year now. I'm

located in Maine and we too have our share of humid weather. My G11

is housed in a roll-off roof observatory for protection, which also

allows the scope to be left in place.



Except for the occasional spider web the G11 shows no signs of wear or

weathering from the humidity or winter cold. It's operation has been

flawless even at 20 below zero in january.



I would expect that a weather-tight cover would work well to protect

your mount. And especially to allow you to keep your pointing model

and park position intact from session to session.



These two Gemini features work remarkably well in a permanent setup

with a good polar alignment and a dozen or more objects in the

pointing model. I am able to simply power on the mount after days of

inactivity and slew to any object without even doing a one star

alignment. This also makes finding planets during the day a snap.



Having the G11 permanently set up makes my startup time about 4

minutes: open roof, power up equipment, insert eyepiece or camera,

remove lens cover and begin.



If you're into imaging, you already know how particular you have to be

with setup and alignment, and how long it takes each night to get it

there. Keeping the G11 in place lets you spend *way* less time

setting up and way more time enjoying the sky.



If you can manage to find a way to keep your G11 in place permanently,

I highly recommend it!



Regards,

Wayne Krauth



ps. Here is a picture of my 6" AP and Pronto on the G11

www.maineskies.org/in-operation.jpg





--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "cetialpha4" cetialpha4@y...>

wrote: > I currently have a permanent pier setup on the deck in my backyard

> where I use my Meade 2120 for observing. The telescope and fork mount

> are brought outside each night that I observe, and then taken back

> inside after each session. I am considering the purchase of the G11

> to be able to better pursue digital astrophotography.

>

> I was wondering what the experience of the group is with the G11 (or

> G8) mount as far as permanent pier installations, especially in the

> deep, humid south where I live. Is it safe to leave G11 mount

> outdoors, suitably protected, or do most users bring it in after

> every observing session?

>

> If left outside, is suitable protecton considered a closed roof

> observatory, or will something such as a desert storm cover provide

> enough protection?

>

> I guess I ask because with a precision mount such as the G11, it

> would seem that leaving it setup after it was properly polar aligned

> would be preferable to putting it on the pier and taking it off each

> night. Or is it possible to do this and maintain a good polar

> alignment each night?

>

> Forgive me for my ignorance, but this would be my first venture into

> a truly electronically controlled scope, and for the money paid I

> would certainly want to care for it properly.

>

> Thanks for your help,

>

> Claude







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#22054 Aug 21, 2004

Hi Bob,



Yes, I take the optics inside every time. I rebuild the model about

once very 2-3 months, which is also when I redo the polar alignment.

It seems to work well for the times in between.



Regards,



-Paul





--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Benamati"

bobbenamati@c...> wrote: > Paul,

>

> I'm guessing you take the optics in though, right? How does your

alignment and pointing do--or do you re-build your model each time? >

> Take care,

> Bob

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Paul K

> To: Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:41 AM

> Subject: [Losmandy_users] Re: G11 Permanent Pier Mounting

>

>

> Claude,

>

> I have my G11/Gemini setup outside on a permanent pier. It's been

on > it for the last three years, covered by an equivalent of a desert

> storm cover. I do take the electronics inside most of the time,

> unless I expect the weather to cooperate for a few nights in a

row > (can't remember the last time this has happened ;-(

>

> I'm located in the North East US and the weather here is

extremely > humid in the summer, and pretty cold (as low as 0F) in the winter.

>

> I've seen no ill effects on the mount. It is made of non-

corrosive > materials, and appears to resist moisture well. Insects are

another > matter, though :)

>

> I do regrease the mount about once a year, and grease all

threads, > screws, etc. that are exposed.

>

> Regards,

>

> -Paul

>

> --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "cetialpha4"

cetialpha4@y...> > wrote:

> > I currently have a permanent pier setup on the deck in my

backyard > > where I use my Meade 2120 for observing. The telescope and fork

> mount

> > are brought outside each night that I observe, and then taken

back > > inside after each session. I am considering the purchase of the

G11 > > to be able to better pursue digital astrophotography.

> >

> > I was wondering what the experience of the group is with the

G11 > (or

> > G8) mount as far as permanent pier installations, especially in

the > > deep, humid south where I live. Is it safe to leave G11 mount

> > outdoors, suitably protected, or do most users bring it in

after > > every observing session?

> >

> > If left outside, is suitable protecton considered a closed roof

> > observatory, or will something such as a desert storm cover

provide > > enough protection?

> >

> > I guess I ask because with a precision mount such as the G11,

it > > would seem that leaving it setup after it was properly polar

> aligned

> > would be preferable to putting it on the pier and taking it off

> each

> > night. Or is it possible to do this and maintain a good polar

> > alignment each night?

> >

> > Forgive me for my ignorance, but this would be my first venture

> into

> > a truly electronically controlled scope, and for the money paid

I > > would certainly want to care for it properly.

> >

> > Thanks for your help,

> >

> > Claude

>

>

>

>

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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#22056 Aug 21, 2004

Interesting! I'm planning on building a shed observatory once my pier comes in, and would feel much better if I'd take the FSQ or C11 in the house rather than to risk it in the weather..... You may have convinced me that I'd be better off doing just that!



Thanks,

Bob ----- Original Message -----

From: Paul K

To: Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 8:25 PM

Subject: [Losmandy_users] Re: G11 Permanent Pier Mounting





Hi Bob,



Yes, I take the optics inside every time. I rebuild the model about

once very 2-3 months, which is also when I redo the polar alignment.

It seems to work well for the times in between.



Regards,



-Paul





--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Benamati"

bobbenamati@c...> wrote:

> Paul,

>

> I'm guessing you take the optics in though, right? How does your

alignment and pointing do--or do you re-build your model each time?

>

> Take care,

> Bob

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Paul K

> To: Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:41 AM

> Subject: [Losmandy_users] Re: G11 Permanent Pier Mounting

>

>

> Claude,

>

> I have my G11/Gemini setup outside on a permanent pier. It's been

on

> it for the last three years, covered by an equivalent of a desert

> storm cover. I do take the electronics inside most of the time,

> unless I expect the weather to cooperate for a few nights in a

row

> (can't remember the last time this has happened ;-(

>

> I'm located in the North East US and the weather here is

extremely

> humid in the summer, and pretty cold (as low as 0F) in the winter.

>

> I've seen no ill effects on the mount. It is made of non-

corrosive

> materials, and appears to resist moisture well. Insects are

another

> matter, though :)

>

> I do regrease the mount about once a year, and grease all

threads,

> screws, etc. that are exposed.

>

> Regards,

>

> -Paul

>

> --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "cetialpha4"

cetialpha4@y...>

> wrote:

> > I currently have a permanent pier setup on the deck in my

backyard

> > where I use my Meade 2120 for observing. The telescope and fork

> mount

> > are brought outside each night that I observe, and then taken

back

> > inside after each session. I am considering the purchase of the

G11

> > to be able to better pursue digital astrophotography.

> >

> > I was wondering what the experience of the group is with the

G11

> (or

> > G8) mount as far as permanent pier installations, especially in

the

> > deep, humid south where I live. Is it safe to leave G11 mount

> > outdoors, suitably protected, or do most users bring it in

after

> > every observing session?

> >

> > If left outside, is suitable protecton considered a closed roof

> > observatory, or will something such as a desert storm cover

provide

> > enough protection?

> >

> > I guess I ask because with a precision mount such as the G11,

it

> > would seem that leaving it setup after it was properly polar

> aligned

> > would be preferable to putting it on the pier and taking it off

> each

> > night. Or is it possible to do this and maintain a good polar

> > alignment each night?

> >

> > Forgive me for my ignorance, but this would be my first venture

> into

> > a truly electronically controlled scope, and for the money paid

I

> > would certainly want to care for it properly.

> >

> > Thanks for your help,

> >

> > Claude

>

>

>

>

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]











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