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Re: Pier flip


Jul 15, 2010

 


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#46467 Jul 15, 2010

Hey guys!



Another newbie question here. I have my G11 on a pier, polar aligned nicely to within a gnat's wisker of a pixel (thanks to PemPro!) and with a quick and dirty PemPro PEC have my PE down to 4 arc-seconds. I seem to have gotten the hang of using many of the GEMINI routines, and have the 'scope pretty well synched - with a warm start and a single star synch I can land most DSO's in the field of my 17 mm Nagler.



But I have a question about "pier flip." I have looked exhaustively in the menus in GEMINI and don't see a command for this. Is there one? So far I have accomplished this by simply using the handbox and manually moving the RA drive to move the 'scope until it is on the "other" side, then re-synching on a star and finding the object I was previously looking at near the Meridian. Is there an automated or easier way to do this (especially when I start photography) so that the scope just goes to the other side of the pier and goes back to the object I was already looking at?



Thanks in advance for another dumb question from a G11 neophyte!





Toxo



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#46468 Jul 15, 2010

I thought it was in the Quick Menu section.



Mike Siniscalchi

www.helixgate.net --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "David" toxo144@...> wrote:

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#46469 Jul 15, 2010

By pressing and holding down the menu button, the "meridian flip " will appear, if it is possible to flip without hitting the programed limits.

Floyd

--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "David" toxo144@...> wrote:

>

> Hey guys!

>

> Another newbie question here. I have my G11 on a pier, polar aligned nicely to within a gnat's wisker of a pixel (thanks to PemPro!) and with a quick and dirty PemPro PEC have my PE down to 4 arc-seconds. I seem to have gotten the hang of using many of the GEMINI routines, and have the 'scope pretty well synched - with a warm start and a single star synch I can land most DSO's in the field of my 17 mm Nagler.

>

> But I have a question about "pier flip." I have looked exhaustively in the menus in GEMINI and don't see a command for this. Is there one? So far I have accomplished this by simply using the handbox and manually moving the RA drive to move the 'scope until it is on the "other" side, then re-synching on a star and finding the object I was previously looking at near the Meridian. Is there an automated or easier way to do this (especially when I start photography) so that the scope just goes to the other side of the pier and goes back to the object I was already looking at?

>

> Thanks in advance for another dumb question from a G11 neophyte!

>

>

> Toxo

>



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#46470 Jul 15, 2010

Mike,



!? I didn't look there! Thanks for the tip! Will try it Friday night if the Weather gods don't still hate me...



Toxo

--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "ma_siniscalchi" helixgate@...> wrote:

>

>

> I thought it was in the Quick Menu section.

>

> Mike Siniscalchi

> www.helixgate.net

> --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "David" toxo144@> wrote:

> >

>



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#46471 Jul 16, 2010

Note the signifigance of Floyd's comment----"If it is possible....." The Meridian Flip option will not appear on the reduced menu if it is not safe to do flip. So, if you are in the wrong place, your limits are set wrong, etc. you may not see the option. It took me a while to find it.



Alex

--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "bakersfieldbiker" fblue@...> wrote:

>

> By pressing and holding down the menu button, the "meridian flip " will appear, if it is possible to flip without hitting the programed limits.

> Floyd

>

> --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "David" toxo144@> wrote:

> >

> > Hey guys!

> >

> > Another newbie question here. I have my G11 on a pier, polar aligned nicely to within a gnat's wisker of a pixel (thanks to PemPro!) and with a quick and dirty PemPro PEC have my PE down to 4 arc-seconds. I seem to have gotten the hang of using many of the GEMINI routines, and have the 'scope pretty well synched - with a warm start and a single star synch I can land most DSO's in the field of my 17 mm Nagler.

> >

> > But I have a question about "pier flip." I have looked exhaustively in the menus in GEMINI and don't see a command for this. Is there one? So far I have accomplished this by simply using the handbox and manually moving the RA drive to move the 'scope until it is on the "other" side, then re-synching on a star and finding the object I was previously looking at near the Meridian. Is there an automated or easier way to do this (especially when I start photography) so that the scope just goes to the other side of the pier and goes back to the object I was already looking at?

> >

> > Thanks in advance for another dumb question from a G11 neophyte!

> >

> >

> > Toxo

> >

>



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#46472 Jul 16, 2010

Thank you Alex for adding that, it was implied but not stated I guess. :^)

Indeed, IF the mount can flip safely, it will show in the Quick Menu but if it can not, it will not be present. This is how you can tell whether a flip can be made.

Floyd

--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "alexmcconahay" alexmcconahay@...> wrote:

>

>

> Note the signifigance of Floyd's comment----"If it is possible....." The Meridian Flip option will not appear on the reduced menu if it is not safe to do flip. So, if you are in the wrong place, your limits are set wrong, etc. you may not see the option. It took me a while to find it.

>

> Alex

>

> --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "bakersfieldbiker" fblue@> wrote:

> >

> > By pressing and holding down the menu button, the "meridian flip " will appear, if it is possible to flip without hitting the programed limits.

> > Floyd

> >

> > --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "David" toxo144@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hey guys!

> > >

> > > Another newbie question here. I have my G11 on a pier, polar aligned nicely to within a gnat's wisker of a pixel (thanks to PemPro!) and with a quick and dirty PemPro PEC have my PE down to 4 arc-seconds. I seem to have gotten the hang of using many of the GEMINI routines, and have the 'scope pretty well synched - with a warm start and a single star synch I can land most DSO's in the field of my 17 mm Nagler.

> > >

> > > But I have a question about "pier flip." I have looked exhaustively in the menus in GEMINI and don't see a command for this. Is there one? So far I have accomplished this by simply using the handbox and manually moving the RA drive to move the 'scope until it is on the "other" side, then re-synching on a star and finding the object I was previously looking at near the Meridian. Is there an automated or easier way to do this (especially when I start photography) so that the scope just goes to the other side of the pier and goes back to the object I was already looking at?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance for another dumb question from a G11 neophyte!

> > >

> > >

> > > Toxo

> > >

> >

>







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#46475 Jul 16, 2010

Toxo, the Meridian Flip only appears in the Menu when MF is allowed. If you are in the zone where a Flip would bang into the pier on the other side, the menu option doesn't appear.



Charles --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "David" toxo144@...> wrote:

>

> Mike,

>

> !? I didn't look there! Thanks for the tip! Will try it Friday night if the Weather gods don't still hate me...

>

> Toxo

>

> --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "ma_siniscalchi" helixgate@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > I thought it was in the Quick Menu section.

> >

> > Mike Siniscalchi

> > www.helixgate.net

> > --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "David" toxo144@> wrote:

> > >

> >

>



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#50887 May 1, 2012

Hi group,

Can anybody tell me how to setup a pier flip in the Gemini software in the hand control AND in the Gemini (Ascom) software?



Thanks in advance!



Kind regards,



Peter



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#50888 May 1, 2012

I do not know what kind of "setting up" you mean.



To get a meridian flip in the hand paddle, you need to press and hold the Menu button. This will cycle to the short menu--the first item is to go from Visual to Photo speed (or vice versa)....keep it pressed and it will cycle through the various other options, including parking, and other options. One of the options is Meridian Flip. Let the button go when it gets there and it starts the flip. However, it will not give you that option if, considering its pointing model and safety limits, and where it is already pointing, it does not consider it safe to flip.



I don't know about the ASCOM software, and again, I do not know if there is a way to "set up" a meridian flip so that it happens at a certain point in the process.



Alex





--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "Peter" peter.aaroe-hansen@...> wrote:

>

> Hi group,

> Can anybody tell me how to setup a pier flip in the Gemini software in the hand control AND in the Gemini (Ascom) software?

>

> Thanks in advance!

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Peter

>



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#50898 May 2, 2012

Out of curiosity, why does some software call it a "pier flip" when one hopes the pier is secure and won't flip? And of course when using a tripod you still need to do a "pier flip":)



Gale

--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "rockjockjared" jwellman@...> wrote:

>

> To execute a Pier Flip in the ASCOM "Hand Controller"...click the "Func" button and select "Perform Meridian Flip" (I think that's what it's called...once you're in that menu it will be obvious.)

>

> Jared

>

> --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "Peter" peter.aaroe-hansen@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi group,

> > Can anybody tell me how to setup a pier flip in the Gemini software in the hand control AND in the Gemini (Ascom) software?

> >

> > Thanks in advance!

> >

> > Kind regards,

> >

> > Peter

> >

>



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