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Re: Permanent Pier help?


Mar 22, 2016

 


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#57155 Mar 22, 2016

I'd build or buy (Dan's top plate) a top plate. You can use terracon screws with epoxy to bind it to the concrete or build a 'adapter' plate that you could change out.



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#57156 Mar 22, 2016

Thanks! That is a fine option but Losmandy themselves sell the Meade adapter for $100 which would bolt onto the pier. If I were to buy a solution, I think I'd just buy that. So, I'm really down to: Can I remove this bottom section in which case I think it will attach to my pier top plate just fine or do I buy the Losmandy MA Adapter.

Appreciate the response in any case. Thanks!

Stuart



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#57157 Mar 22, 2016

On 3/22/2016 12:24 PM, Stuart Heggiestuart.j.heggie@... [Losmandy_users] wrote:

.All - I have a flat top permanent pier in myobservatory. I want to put my G11 on it. The pier has a1/2" hole in the top and I have the ability to run a 1/2"bolt up through that hole (this is a Skyshed pier in caseyou know what they look like)..

My G11 has a 1/2" bolt in the bottom that "appears"to hold the lower half of the mount base on. By this, Imean the part that drops down into my G11 tripod top andthat holds the three side bolts to lock it onto thetripod. Also, the brass post that the azimuth adjusterrod passes through would appear to be part of thatassembly..

When removed the centre bolt from the bottom and thetwo lock-down bolts that go in from the top, I got nomovement at all. I realize now that the threaded rodthrough the brass azimuth adjustment post probably wouldneed to come off as well. Is it just stuck or is theremore to this?

Has anyone removed the base on their G11 and doesthe above seem like it would work?



-- Stuart Heggiewww.stuartheggie.com/featured.html



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#57158 Mar 22, 2016

Stuart,

The top part of the tripod is sold separately as pier adaptor. I would definitely get one of those, mount it to the pier and then put the G11 onto it securing it with the 3 lateral screws. Actually, this is what I did, but I did not use the center hole of the pier top but to avoid any movement drilled 6 or so blind holes into the 2-inches thick top plate of my pier, tapped them and secured the pier top with those at least 6 screws.

Hope this helps,Stephan

On 22.03.2016, at 17:24, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [Losmandy_users] Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



��All - I have a flat top permanent pier in my observatory. I want to put my G11 on it. The pier has a 1/2" hole in the top and I have the ability to run a 1/2" bolt up through that hole (this is a Skyshed pier in case you know what they look like).��

My G11 has a 1/2" bolt in the bottom that "appears" to hold the lower half of the mount base on. By this, I mean the part that drops down into my G11 tripod top and that holds the three side bolts to lock it onto the tripod. Also, the brass post that the azimuth adjuster rod passes through would appear to be part of that assembly.��

When removed the centre bolt from the bottom and the two lock-down bolts that go in from the top, I got no movement at all. I realize now that the threaded rod through the brass azimuth adjustment post probably would need to come off as well. Is it just stuck or is there more to this?

Has anyone removed the base on their G11 and does the above seem like it would work?

-- Stuart Heggiewww.stuartheggie.com/featured.html



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#57159 Mar 22, 2016

Jeff, Stephen, thanks. I mentioned that in my reply to mads0100. I think it is the ideal solution for sure. I tried ordering it on-line a few days ago but the form doesn't support orders to Canada. I sent a message to Losmandy via their Contact Us form but have not heard back.

Stephen, you're idea is a good one. I wasn't crazy about a single mounting bolt especially one that is in the centre thus allowing the top part to rotate slightly and ruin my polar alignment. My top plate has lots of tapped holes, I just need to be sure I can line up with them!.

Still kind of curious though if the bottom of the mount comes off because it amounts to the same thing (minus the extra mounting bolts to avoid rotation).

Really appreciate you guys jumping in so quickly!

Stuart



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#57160 Mar 22, 2016

Stuart,

I also have a Skyshed pier.I used the Meade LA adapter but found that the arrangement of the holes in the Skyshed pier did not match the Meade adapter. ��After a couple of tries I was able to drill new holes that really lined me up very close to North. ��Since then no problems. ��

John

Sent from my iPad



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#57161 Mar 22, 2016

They occasionally show up on Cloudy Nights. There have been three sold

there since the beginning of March for around $70 USD.



Tom





On 3/22/2016 3:15 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@...

[Losmandy_users] wrote: >

>

> Jeff, Stephen, thanks. I mentioned that in my reply to mads0100. I think

> it is the ideal solution for sure. I tried ordering it on-line a few

> days ago but the form doesn't support orders to Canada. I sent a message

> to Losmandy via their Contact Us form but have not heard back.

>

> Stephen, you're idea is a good one. I wasn't crazy about a single

> mounting bolt especially one that is in the centre thus allowing the top

> part to rotate slightly and ruin my polar alignment. My top plate has

> lots of tapped holes, I just need to be sure I can line up with them!

>

> Still kind of curious though if the bottom of the mount comes off

> because it amounts to the same thing (minus the extra mounting bolts to

> avoid rotation).

>

> Really appreciate you guys jumping in so quickly!

>

> Stuart

>

> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Jeff Cymmer jcymm@...

> mailto:jcymm@...> [Losmandy_users] Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com

> mailto:Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

>

> __

>

> On 3/22/2016 12:24 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@...

> mailto:stuart.j.heggie@...> [Losmandy_users] wrote:

>> All - I have a flat top permanent pier in my observatory. I want

>> to put my G11 on it. The pier has a 1/2" hole in the top and I

>> have the ability to run a 1/2" bolt up through that hole (this is

>> a Skyshed pier in case you know what they look like).

>>

>> My G11 has a 1/2" bolt in the bottom that "appears" to hold the

>> lower half of the mount base on. By this, I mean the part that

>> drops down into my G11 tripod top and that holds the three side

>> bolts to lock it onto the tripod. Also, the brass post that the

>> azimuth adjuster rod passes through would appear to be part of

>> that assembly.

>>

>> When removed the centre bolt from the bottom and the two lock-down

>> bolts that go in from the top, I got no movement at all. I realize

>> now that the threaded rod through the brass azimuth adjustment

>> post probably would need to come off as well. Is it just stuck or

>> is there more to this?

>>

>> Has anyone removed the base on their G11 and does the above seem

>> like it would work?

>>

>> --

>> Stuart Heggie

>> www.stuartheggie.com/featured.html

>> www.stuartheggie.com>

> What you need is a pier adaptor. Its Losmanday part name MA. Look

> for it at www.losmandy.com/access.html Jeff

>

>

>

>

> --

> Stuart Heggie

> www.stuartheggie.com/featured.html www.stuartheggie.com>

>

>

>







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#57162 Mar 22, 2016

John, that is very good to know - thanks!

Stuart



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#57163 Mar 22, 2016

Tom, thanks! I will look there. I was looking on Astromart but didn't think of CN.

Stuart



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#57164 Mar 22, 2016

I just searched for pier adapter on CN. If you have patience ( I

usually do not;-)) one may show up.



Tom



On 3/22/2016 5:53 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@...

[Losmandy_users] wrote: >

>

> Tom, thanks! I will look there. I was looking on Astromart but didn't

> think of CN.

>

> Stuart

>

> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:29 PM, tom loeblt@...

> mailto:loeblt@...> [Losmandy_users]

> Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com mailto:Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com>>

> wrote:

>

> __

>

> They occasionally show up on Cloudy Nights. There have been three sold

> there since the beginning of March for around $70 USD.

>

> Tom

>

> On 3/22/2016 3:15 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@...

> mailto:stuart.j.heggie@...>

> [Losmandy_users] wrote:

> >

> >

> > Jeff, Stephen, thanks. I mentioned that in my reply to mads0100. I think

> > it is the ideal solution for sure. I tried ordering it on-line a few

> > days ago but the form doesn't support orders to Canada. I sent a message

> > to Losmandy via their Contact Us form but have not heard back.

> >

> > Stephen, you're idea is a good one. I wasn't crazy about a single

> > mounting bolt especially one that is in the centre thus allowing the top

> > part to rotate slightly and ruin my polar alignment. My top plate has

> > lots of tapped holes, I just need to be sure I can line up with them!

> >

> > Still kind of curious though if the bottom of the mount comes off

> > because it amounts to the same thing (minus the extra mounting bolts to

> > avoid rotation).

> >

> > Really appreciate you guys jumping in so quickly!

> >

> > Stuart

> >

> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Jeff Cymmerjcymm@... mailto:jcymm@...>

> > mailto:jcymm@... mailto:jcymm@...>> [Losmandy_users]

> Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com mailto:Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com>

> > mailto:Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com

> mailto:Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com>>> wrote:

> >

> > __

> >

> > On 3/22/2016 12:24 PM, Stuart Heggiestuart.j.heggie@... mailto:stuart.j.heggie@...>

> > mailto:stuart.j.heggie@... mailto:stuart.j.heggie@...>>

> [Losmandy_users] wrote:

> >> All - I have a flat top permanent pier in my observatory. I want

> >> to put my G11 on it. The pier has a 1/2" hole in the top and I

> >> have the ability to run a 1/2" bolt up through that hole (this is

> >> a Skyshed pier in case you know what they look like).

> >>

> >> My G11 has a 1/2" bolt in the bottom that "appears" to hold the

> >> lower half of the mount base on. By this, I mean the part that

> >> drops down into my G11 tripod top and that holds the three side

> >> bolts to lock it onto the tripod. Also, the brass post that the

> >> azimuth adjuster rod passes through would appear to be part of

> >> that assembly.

> >>

> >> When removed the centre bolt from the bottom and the two lock-down

> >> bolts that go in from the top, I got no movement at all. I realize

> >> now that the threaded rod through the brass azimuth adjustment

> >> post probably would need to come off as well. Is it just stuck or

> >> is there more to this?

> >>

> >> Has anyone removed the base on their G11 and does the above seem

> >> like it would work?

> >>

> >> --

> >> Stuart Heggie

> >>www.stuartheggie.com/featured.html

> >> www.stuartheggie.com>

> > What you need is a pier adaptor. Its Losmanday part name MA. Look

> > for it atwww.losmandy.com/access.html Jeff

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Stuart Heggie

> > www.stuartheggie.com/featured.html

> www.stuartheggie.com>

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> --

> Stuart Heggie

> www.stuartheggie.com/featured.html www.stuartheggie.com>

>

>

>



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#57165 Mar 22, 2016

Thanks Tom!

On Tuesday, 22 March 2016, tom loeblt@... [Losmandy_users] Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

.I just searched for pier adapter on CN. If you have patience ( I

usually do not;-)) one may show up.



Tom



On 3/22/2016 5:53 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@...

[Losmandy_users] wrote:

>

>

> Tom, thanks! I will look there. I was looking on Astromart but didn't

> think of CN.

>

> Stuart

>

> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:29 PM, tom loeblt@...

> mailto:loeblt@...> [Losmandy_users]

> Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com mailto:Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com>>

> wrote:

>

> __

>

> They occasionally show up on Cloudy Nights. There have been three sold

> there since the beginning of March for around $70 USD.

>

> Tom

>

> On 3/22/2016 3:15 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@...

> mailto:stuart.j.heggie@...>

> [Losmandy_users] wrote:

> >

> >

> > Jeff, Stephen, thanks. I mentioned that in my reply to mads0100. I think

> > it is the ideal solution for sure. I tried ordering it on-line a few

> > days ago but the form doesn't support orders to Canada. I sent a message

> > to Losmandy via their Contact Us form but have not heard back.

> >

> > Stephen, you're idea is a good one. I wasn't crazy about a single

> > mounting bolt especially one that is in the centre thus allowing the top

> > part to rotate slightly and ruin my polar alignment. My top plate has

> > lots of tapped holes, I just need to be sure I can line up with them!

> >

> > Still kind of curious though if the bottom of the mount comes off

> > because it amounts to the same thing (minus the extra mounting bolts to

> > avoid rotation).

> >

> > Really appreciate you guys jumping in so quickly!

> >

> > Stuart

> >

> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Jeff Cymmerjcymm@... mailto:jcymm@...>

> > mailto:jcymm@... mailto:jcymm@...>> [Losmandy_users]

> Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com mailto:Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com>

> > mailto:Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com

> mailto:Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com>>> wrote:

> >

> > __

> >

> > On 3/22/2016 12:24 PM, Stuart Heggiestuart.j.heggie@... mailto:stuart.j.heggie@...>

> > mailto:stuart.j.heggie@... mailto:stuart.j.heggie@...>>

> [Losmandy_users] wrote:

> >> All - I have a flat top permanent pier in my observatory. I want

> >> to put my G11 on it. The pier has a 1/2" hole in the top and I

> >> have the ability to run a 1/2" bolt up through that hole (this is

> >> a Skyshed pier in case you know what they look like).

> >>

> >> My G11 has a 1/2" bolt in the bottom that "appears" to hold the

> >> lower half of the mount base on. By this, I mean the part that

> >> drops down into my G11 tripod top and that holds the three side

> >> bolts to lock it onto the tripod. Also, the brass post that the

> >> azimuth adjuster rod passes through would appear to be part of

> >> that assembly.

> >>

> >> When removed the centre bolt from the bottom and the two lock-down

> >> bolts that go in from the top, I got no movement at all. I realize

> >> now that the threaded rod through the brass azimuth adjustment

> >> post probably would need to come off as well. Is it just stuck or

> >> is there more to this?

> >>

> >> Has anyone removed the base on their G11 and does the above seem

> >> like it would work?

> >>

> >> --

> >> Stuart Heggie

> >>www.stuartheggie.com/featured.html

> >> www.stuartheggie.com>

> > What you need is a pier adaptor. Its Losmanday part name MA. Look

> > for it atwww.losmandy.com/access.html Jeff

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Stuart Heggie

> > www.stuartheggie.com/featured.html

> www.stuartheggie.com>

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> --

> Stuart Heggie

> www.stuartheggie.com/featured.html www.stuartheggie.com>

>

>

>







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