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Re: New Recital in Polar Alignment Scope . Question


Dec 1, 2008

 


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#40697 Dec 1, 2008

I purchased a Losmandy Polar Alignment Scope recently and the recital

doesn't match the instructions on the Losmandy site. There's another

set of alignment markers close to the markers for & UMi and the

location where it say's to place the second star looks lower when

compared to the instructions. Cassiopeia and Ursa Major are at

different locations. The recital says N-05-10-20-30



Does anybody have updated instructions?



Jim

Phoenix, AZ



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#40699 Dec 1, 2008

Hi Jim,



05 means 2005

10 means 2010

20 means 2020

30 means 2030



So the reticle is good until the year 2030.



We are in the year 2008 so place the stars a little bit nearer to the

2010 mark rather then to the 2005 mark and you are done. Interpolate

that distance into 5 egual spaces and place the stars 2 spaces from

the 2010 amrk and 3 soaces from the 2005 mark.



Of course place Polaris where it must be placed and that is in the

intersection of the 3 lines marked with Polaris.



I do not have my polar align scope here but if you want I can check it

in 3 weeks when I am at the Observatory again.





>

> > I purchased a Losmandy Polar Alignment Scope recently and the recital

> > doesn't match the instructions on the Losmandy site. There's another

> > set of alignment markers close to the markers for & UMi and the

> > location where it say's to place the second star looks lower when

> > compared to the instructions. Cassiopeia and Ursa Major are at

> > different locations. The recital says N-05-10-20-30

> >

> > Does anybody have updated instructions?

> >

> > Jim

> > Phoenix, AZ

> >

> >

> >

---------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>



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#40700 Dec 1, 2008

It's about 1 month old and I use it in a G8 mount. Both the G8 and 11

mounts use the same scope. The recital drawing that I have is

different and the orientations of Cassiopeia and Ursa Major are

rotated. There's an extra set of alignment markers at about 225

degrees and the location where it says to place the second star or &

MNi looks too low.



I don't know about magnifications problems but the other problems exist.



Jim





--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "stacey roberts" astrobsd@...>

wrote: >

> Hi Jim,

> Just on the off-chance - is that a **brand_new** G11 Polar Alignment

> Scope?

>

> Your problem appears to be similar to that which is described in this

> article: www.company7.com/library/losmandy/polefinder.html

>

> If not, sorry about the noise :-)

>

> Regards,

>

> S Roberts

>

>

> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Jim jwaters125@...> wrote:

>

> > I purchased a Losmandy Polar Alignment Scope recently and the recital

> > doesn't match the instructions on the Losmandy site. There's another

> > set of alignment markers close to the markers for & UMi and the

> > location where it say's to place the second star looks lower when

> > compared to the instructions. Cassiopeia and Ursa Major are at

> > different locations. The recital says N-05-10-20-30

> >

> > Does anybody have updated instructions?

> >

> > Jim

> > Phoenix, AZ

> >

> >

> >

---------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>



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#40702 Dec 1, 2008

Here is an useful info for the new reticle



www.losmandy.com/polar-finder.pdf



regards Rainer

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> 05 means 2005

> 10 means 2010

> 20 means 2020

> 30 means 2030

>

> So the reticle is good until the year 2030.

>

> We are in the year 2008 so place the stars a little bit nearer to the

> 2010 mark rather then to the 2005 mark and you are done. Interpolate

> that distance into 5 egual spaces and place the stars 2 spaces from

> the 2010 amrk and 3 soaces from the 2005 mark.

>

> Of course place Polaris where it must be placed and that is in the

> intersection of the 3 lines marked with Polaris.

>

> I do not have my polar align scope here but if you want I can check it

> in 3 weeks when I am at the Observatory again.

>

>

>

> >

> > > I purchased a Losmandy Polar Alignment Scope recently and the

recital > > > doesn't match the instructions on the Losmandy site. There's

another > > > set of alignment markers close to the markers for & UMi and the

> > > location where it say's to place the second star looks lower when

> > > compared to the instructions. Cassiopeia and Ursa Major are at

> > > different locations. The recital says N-05-10-20-30

> > >

> > > Does anybody have updated instructions?

> > >

> > > Jim

> > > Phoenix, AZ

> > >

> > >

> > >

---------------

> > >

> > > Yahoo! Groups Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>







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#40704 Dec 1, 2008

Hi Rainer;



I understand the date markings but the location of the alignment

markings are different and don't match the instructions. There are

also new alignment markings.



Jim



--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "Rainer" rsbfoto@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> 05 means 2005

> 10 means 2010

> 20 means 2020

> 30 means 2030

>

> So the reticle is good until the year 2030.

>

> We are in the year 2008 so place the stars a little bit nearer to the

> 2010 mark rather then to the 2005 mark and you are done. Interpolate

> that distance into 5 egual spaces and place the stars 2 spaces from

> the 2010 amrk and 3 soaces from the 2005 mark.

>

> Of course place Polaris where it must be placed and that is in the

> intersection of the 3 lines marked with Polaris.

>

> I do not have my polar align scope here but if you want I can check it

> in 3 weeks when I am at the Observatory again.

>

>

>

> >

> > > I purchased a Losmandy Polar Alignment Scope recently and the

recital

> > > doesn't match the instructions on the Losmandy site. There's

another

> > > set of alignment markers close to the markers for & UMi and the

> > > location where it say's to place the second star looks lower when

> > > compared to the instructions. Cassiopeia and Ursa Major are at

> > > different locations. The recital says N-05-10-20-30

> > >

> > > Does anybody have updated instructions?

> > >

> > > Jim

> > > Phoenix, AZ

> > >

> > >

> > >

---------------

> > >

> > > Yahoo! Groups Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>



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#40705 Dec 1, 2008

Hello,



One thing to note is that on Fig. 3 of the Company 7 link, note that

you also position Polaris at different locations within the gap

depending on the year. The same figure is on the Losmandy link in

Fig. 2. It is interesting to also point out that the "new" reticle

on page four of the Losmandy link does not show "different" placement

of Polaris while it does show the different "spots" to place Delta

Ursa Minor and 51 Cep.



So, does anyone actually place Polaris in any position other

than "center" but do place the other two stars in their proper

interpolated places?



I flailed with alignment on this past Friday night in what it seemed

like an eternity to get the mount aligned. In my previous outing, I

had the alignment within a few minutes. The recent alignment turned

out to be lousy and the one where it took only a short time, the

alignment was spot on. It really seemed strange. I was beginning to

wonder if I had the correct stars. What a deal!



By the way, is this the only alignment required to allow for good

guiding? I have heard that Polar alignment is adequate and that

further drift alignment is not necessary.



Jerry.





--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" jwaters125@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rainer;

>

> I understand the date markings but the location of the alignment

> markings are different and don't match the instructions. There are

> also new alignment markings.

>

> Jim

>

>

> --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "Rainer" rsbfoto@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Jim,

> >

> > 05 means 2005

> > 10 means 2010

> > 20 means 2020

> > 30 means 2030

> >

> > So the reticle is good until the year 2030.

> >

> > We are in the year 2008 so place the stars a little bit nearer to

the

> > 2010 mark rather then to the 2005 mark and you are done.

Interpolate

> > that distance into 5 egual spaces and place the stars 2 spaces

from

> > the 2010 amrk and 3 soaces from the 2005 mark.

> >

> > Of course place Polaris where it must be placed and that is in the

> > intersection of the 3 lines marked with Polaris.

> >

> > I do not have my polar align scope here but if you want I can

check it

> > in 3 weeks when I am at the Observatory again.

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > I purchased a Losmandy Polar Alignment Scope recently and the

> recital

> > > > doesn't match the instructions on the Losmandy site. There's

> another

> > > > set of alignment markers close to the markers for & UMi and

the

> > > > location where it say's to place the second star looks lower

when

> > > > compared to the instructions. Cassiopeia and Ursa Major are

at

> > > > different locations. The recital says N-05-10-20-30

> > > >

> > > > Does anybody have updated instructions?

> > > >

> > > > Jim

> > > > Phoenix, AZ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

---------------

> > > >

> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >

> >

>







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#40706 Dec 2, 2008

Hi Jim,



Sorry but then I do not know what sort of reticle has your Polar

Align Scope.



I ordered for my old Polar Scope a new reticle and that one is

exactly as the one depicted in the PDF instruction.



regards Rainer



>

> Hi Rainer;

>

> I understand the date markings but the location of the alignment

> markings are different and don't match the instructions. There are

> also new alignment markings.

>

> Jim

>

>

> --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "Rainer" rsbfoto@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Jim,

> >

> > 05 means 2005

> > 10 means 2010

> > 20 means 2020

> > 30 means 2030

> >

> > So the reticle is good until the year 2030.

> >

> > We are in the year 2008 so place the stars a little bit nearer to

the > > 2010 mark rather then to the 2005 mark and you are done.

Interpolate > > that distance into 5 egual spaces and place the stars 2 spaces

from > > the 2010 amrk and 3 soaces from the 2005 mark.

> >

> > Of course place Polaris where it must be placed and that is in the

> > intersection of the 3 lines marked with Polaris.

> >

> > I do not have my polar align scope here but if you want I can

check it > > in 3 weeks when I am at the Observatory again.

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > I purchased a Losmandy Polar Alignment Scope recently and the

> recital

> > > > doesn't match the instructions on the Losmandy site. There's

> another

> > > > set of alignment markers close to the markers for & UMi and

the > > > > location where it say's to place the second star looks lower

when > > > > compared to the instructions. Cassiopeia and Ursa Major are

at > > > > different locations. The recital says N-05-10-20-30

> > > >

> > > > Does anybody have updated instructions?

> > > >

> > > > Jim

> > > > Phoenix, AZ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

---------------

> > > >

> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >

> >

>



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#40723 Dec 5, 2008

The 'new style' polar scope has different markings to the others but

still works the same in principle. I have added 2 photo's to

demonstate the recticle pattern and a simple one knocked up in paint

to show its workings (the placement of Cassiopea and Ursa Major are a

bit wrong, but you will get the idea) note that Polaris should not be

placed dead centre of the gap.



Hope this helps.



--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "stacey roberts" astrobsd@...>

wrote: >

> Hi Jim,

> Just on the off-chance - is that a **brand_new** G11 Polar Alignment

> Scope?

>

> Your problem appears to be similar to that which is described in this

> article: www.company7.com/library/losmandy/polefinder.html

>

> If not, sorry about the noise :-)

>

> Regards,

>

> S Roberts

>

>

> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Jim jwaters125@...> wrote:

>

> > I purchased a Losmandy Polar Alignment Scope recently and the recital

> > doesn't match the instructions on the Losmandy site. There's another

> > set of alignment markers close to the markers for & UMi and the

> > location where it say's to place the second star looks lower when

> > compared to the instructions. Cassiopeia and Ursa Major are at

> > different locations. The recital says N-05-10-20-30

> >

> > Does anybody have updated instructions?

> >

> > Jim

> > Phoenix, AZ

> >

> >

> >

---------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>



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#40724 Dec 6, 2008

Is it difficult to upgrade an old polar scope with the new reticle?



Where did you purchase the new reticle?



Thanks,



Ralph

--- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "Rainer" rsbfoto@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> Sorry but then I do not know what sort of reticle has your Polar

> Align Scope.

>

> I ordered for my old Polar Scope a new reticle and that one is

> exactly as the one depicted in the PDF instruction.

>

> regards Rainer

>

>

> >

> > Hi Rainer;

> >

> > I understand the date markings but the location of the alignment

> > markings are different and don't match the instructions. There are

> > also new alignment markings.

> >

> > Jim

> >

> >

> > --- In Losmandy_users@yahoogroups.com, "Rainer" rsbfoto@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Jim,

> > >

> > > 05 means 2005

> > > 10 means 2010

> > > 20 means 2020

> > > 30 means 2030

> > >

> > > So the reticle is good until the year 2030.

> > >

> > > We are in the year 2008 so place the stars a little bit nearer to

> the

> > > 2010 mark rather then to the 2005 mark and you are done.

> Interpolate

> > > that distance into 5 egual spaces and place the stars 2 spaces

> from

> > > the 2010 amrk and 3 soaces from the 2005 mark.

> > >

> > > Of course place Polaris where it must be placed and that is in the

> > > intersection of the 3 lines marked with Polaris.

> > >

> > > I do not have my polar align scope here but if you want I can

> check it

> > > in 3 weeks when I am at the Observatory again.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > I purchased a Losmandy Polar Alignment Scope recently and the

> > recital

> > > > > doesn't match the instructions on the Losmandy site. There's

> > another

> > > > > set of alignment markers close to the markers for & UMi and

> the

> > > > > location where it say's to place the second star looks lower

> when

> > > > > compared to the instructions. Cassiopeia and Ursa Major are

> at

> > > > > different locations. The recital says N-05-10-20-30

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anybody have updated instructions?

> > > > >

> > > > > Jim

> > > > > Phoenix, AZ

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

---------------

> > > > >

> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > > >

> > >

> >

>







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