Re: [baofeng_uv5r] Re: Programmed Repeater Channels and CTSS/PL


Dec 29 11:32 PM

 


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#16796 Dec 29 11:32 PM

I'm new to ham radio and just received my Baofeng UV-5R Plus. I've looked through the FAQ and searched the messages without finding the answer to the following question.



I've figured out how to program the channels using the receive/transmit frequencies for several repeaters. All of them have a CTCSS/PL tone and I understand how to program that as well [menu 13]. However, it appears that the tone is a 'global' setting and not associated with the repeater channel. Do I have to change the tone separately if I switch to a repeater with a different tone?



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#16802 Dec 29 11:40 PM

The tone is a frequency and it can be and often is different for different repeaters. You have to know what your repeater uses. And you have to save the correct one for each repeater (i.e., memory channel).

--- In baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com, "rnunez55" randy@...> wrote:

>

> I'm new to ham radio and just received my Baofeng UV-5R Plus. I've looked through the FAQ and searched the messages without finding the answer to the following question.

>

> I've figured out how to program the channels using the receive/transmit frequencies for several repeaters. All of them have a CTCSS/PL tone and I understand how to program that as well [menu 13]. However, it appears that the tone is a 'global' setting and not associated with the repeater channel. Do I have to change the tone separately if I switch to a repeater with a different tone?

>



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#16805 Dec 29 11:54 PM

Incorrect. the T-CTCSs tone and about 8 other menus are stored on a per-channel basis. Visit the www.miklor.com/uv5r/ website, look for 'Menu Detailed Reference' and look at the 'Reference for UV-5R Menus'. It will show you which menu are stored.

It also lets you know which menus are inhibited in Channel mode. Menu 13 is one of them. What this means is you can not switch to a channel, and then call up menu 13 (T-CTCS) and see what tone was programmed. All you can do is toggle to 'reverse' mode (tap the [#] key) or press the PTT button and then look to the left of the upper display to see if there is a 'CT' or 'DCS' displayed. If you see either, then you know there is a tone/code programmed on that channel but you don't know what tone/code.

The good news is that at any time you can use menu 27 (MEM-CH) to update the TX frequency , menu 12 (T-DCS) and menu 13 (T-CTCS) of any exiting channel. That's how you are able to turn a simplex channel into a repeater channel. So if you think your TX CTCSS tone is wrong, program it again.

Jim KC9HI

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:32 PM, rnunez55 randy@...> wrote:

.I'm new to ham radio and just received my Baofeng UV-5R Plus. I've looked through the FAQ and searched the messages without finding the answer to the following question.



I've figured out how to program the channels using the receive/transmit frequencies for several repeaters. All of them have a CTCSS/PL tone and I understand how to program that as well [menu 13]. However, it appears that the tone is a 'global' setting and not associated with the repeater channel. Do I have to change the tone separately if I switch to a repeater with a different tone?



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#16807 Dec 30 12:07 AM

--- In baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@...> wrote: > What this means is you can not switch to a channel, and then

> call up menu 13 (T-CTCS) and see what tone was programmed.



Actually, I can. That is exactly how it works on mine, BFB251.

> The good news is that at any time you can use menu 27 (MEM-CH) to update

> the TX frequency , menu 12 (T-DCS) and menu 13 (T-CTCS) of any exiting

> channel. That's how you are able to turn a simplex channel into a repeater

> channel. So if you think your TX CTCSS tone is wrong, program it again.



Yes, but only after using Menu 28 to clear it. :)



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#16810 Dec 30 12:22 AM

Whoops... I stand corrected! Darn User's Manual. Now I get to test the rest of the menus it says are inhibited. Thanks.Jim KC9HI

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:07 PM, mickeyclicker mickeyclicker@...> wrote:

.--- In baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@...> wrote:

> What this means is you can not switch to a channel, and then

> call up menu 13 (T-CTCS) and see what tone was programmed.



Actually, I can. That is exactly how it works on mine, BFB251.



> The good news is that at any time you can use menu 27 (MEM-CH) to update

> the TX frequency , menu 12 (T-DCS) and menu 13 (T-CTCS) of any exiting

> channel. That's how you are able to turn a simplex channel into a repeater

> channel. So if you think your TX CTCSS tone is wrong, program it again.



Yes, but only after using Menu 28 to clear it. :)



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#16813 Dec 30 12:54 AM

Thanks. I actually didn't notice the columns to the right. Very helpful information. I'm glad it is saved on a channel basis.



And it appears you don't have to delete the the entire memory for that channel to update the tone settings. I'll have to go back and re-save them.



Thanks for the info.



Randy KD8TPK

--- In baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@...> wrote:

>

> Incorrect. the T-CTCSs tone and about 8 other menus are stored on a

> per-channel basis. Visit the www.miklor.com/uv5r/ website, look for

> 'Menu Detailed Reference' and look at the 'Reference for UV-5R Menus'. It

> will show you which menu are stored.

>

> It also lets you know which menus are inhibited in Channel mode. Menu 13 is

> one of them. What this means is you can not switch to a channel, and then

> call up menu 13 (T-CTCS) and see what tone was programmed. All you can do

> is toggle to 'reverse' mode (tap the [#] key) or press the PTT button and

> then look to the left of the upper display to see if there is a 'CT' or

> 'DCS' displayed. If you see either, then you know there is a tone/code

> programmed on that channel but you don't know what tone/code.

>

> The good news is that at any time you can use menu 27 (MEM-CH) to update

> the TX frequency , menu 12 (T-DCS) and menu 13 (T-CTCS) of any exiting

> channel. That's how you are able to turn a simplex channel into a repeater

> channel. So if you think your TX CTCSS tone is wrong, program it again.

>

> Jim KC9HI

>

> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:32 PM, rnunez55 randy@...> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > I'm new to ham radio and just received my Baofeng UV-5R Plus. I've looked

> > through the FAQ and searched the messages without finding the answer to the

> > following question.

> >

> > I've figured out how to program the channels using the receive/transmit

> > frequencies for several repeaters. All of them have a CTCSS/PL tone and I

> > understand how to program that as well [menu 13]. However, it appears that

> > the tone is a 'global' setting and not associated with the repeater

> > channel. Do I have to change the tone separately if I switch to a repeater

> > with a different tone?

> >

> >

> >

>







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#16816 Dec 30 1:55 AM

Correct. Menu 12, 13 and the TX frequency for each channel can be updated in-the-field whenever necessary. Menu 2, 5, 10, 10, 17, 19, 23 and the RX frequency for each channel can not be updated. To be changed, the channel must be deleted and reprogrammed.

The columns of the "Reference for UV-5R Menus" have been updated based on mickeyclicker's feedback. Thanks again.

Jim KC9HI

The columns have have been updated base on mickyclicker's observation.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM, rnunez55 randy@...> wrote:

.Thanks. I actually didn't notice the columns to the right. Very helpful information. I'm glad it is saved on a channel basis.



And it appears you don't have to delete the the entire memory for that channel to update the tone settings. I'll have to go back and re-save them.



Thanks for the info.



Randy KD8TPK



--- In baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@...> wrote:

>

> Incorrect. the T-CTCSs tone and about 8 other menus are stored on a

> per-channel basis. Visit the www.miklor.com/uv5r/ website, look for

> 'Menu Detailed Reference' and look at the 'Reference for UV-5R Menus'. It

> will show you which menu are stored.

>

> It also lets you know which menus are inhibited in Channel mode. Menu 13 is

> one of them. What this means is you can not switch to a channel, and then

> call up menu 13 (T-CTCS) and see what tone was programmed. All you can do

> is toggle to 'reverse' mode (tap the [#] key) or press the PTT button and

> then look to the left of the upper display to see if there is a 'CT' or

> 'DCS' displayed. If you see either, then you know there is a tone/code

> programmed on that channel but you don't know what tone/code.

>

> The good news is that at any time you can use menu 27 (MEM-CH) to update

> the TX frequency , menu 12 (T-DCS) and menu 13 (T-CTCS) of any exiting

> channel. That's how you are able to turn a simplex channel into a repeater

> channel. So if you think your TX CTCSS tone is wrong, program it again.

>

> Jim KC9HI

>

> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:32 PM, rnunez55 randy@...> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > I'm new to ham radio and just received my Baofeng UV-5R Plus. I've looked

> > through the FAQ and searched the messages without finding the answer to the

> > following question.

> >

> > I've figured out how to program the channels using the receive/transmit

> > frequencies for several repeaters. All of them have a CTCSS/PL tone and I

> > understand how to program that as well [menu 13]. However, it appears that

> > the tone is a 'global' setting and not associated with the repeater

> > channel. Do I have to change the tone separately if I switch to a repeater

> > with a different tone?

> >

> >

> >

>



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#16818 Dec 30 2:08 AM

--- In baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com, "mickeyclicker" mickeyclicker@...> wrote: >

> --- In baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@> wrote:

> > What this means is you can not switch to a channel, and then

> > call up menu 13 (T-CTCS) and see what tone was programmed.

>

> Actually, I can. That is exactly how it works on mine, BFB251.



I'm running BFB293 and mine shows off even thought I did program the tone. >

> > The good news is that at any time you can use menu 27 (MEM-CH) to update

> > the TX frequency , menu 12 (T-DCS) and menu 13 (T-CTCS) of any exiting

> > channel. That's how you are able to turn a simplex channel into a repeater

> > channel. So if you think your TX CTCSS tone is wrong, program it again.

>

> Yes, but only after using Menu 28 to clear it. :)

>



I cleared them first as well.



It seems like parameters like CTCSS should be configured first thing or at least before the transmit frequency is saved.



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#16820 Dec 30 2:23 AM

I cleared them first as well.



It seems like parameters like CTCSS should be configured first thing or at least before the transmit frequency is saved.



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#16822 Dec 30 2:50 AM

So, only the transmit freq and transmit tone can be added or changed. That's weird. Power level (menu 2), if anything, at least should be adjustable on the fly. PTT-ID should probably be switchable on/off at will as well. And even though I don't use it, BCL should be changeable too. Oh well, it's a nice toy for 50 bucks. Thanks for detailing the breakdown of those - I wouldn't have bothered.

--- In baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@...> wrote:

>

> Correct. Menu 12, 13 and the TX frequency for each channel can be updated

> in-the-field whenever necessary. Menu 2, 5, 10, 10, 17, 19, 23 and the RX

> frequency for each channel can not be updated.



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#16826 Dec 30 3:24 AM

Power level can be temporarily be toggled by tapping the [#] key (for BFB251 and lower firmware, TDR must be OFF for it to work).Jim KC9HI

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:50 PM, mickeyclicker mickeyclicker@...> wrote:

.So, only the transmit freq and transmit tone can be added or changed. That's weird. Power level (menu 2), if anything, at least should be adjustable on the fly. PTT-ID should probably be switchable on/off at will as well. And even though I don't use it, BCL should be changeable too. Oh well, it's a nice toy for 50 bucks. Thanks for detailing the breakdown of those - I wouldn't have bothered.

--- In baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@...> wrote:

>

> Correct. Menu 12, 13 and the TX frequency for each channel can be updated

> in-the-field whenever necessary. Menu 2, 5, 10, 10, 17, 19, 23 and the RX

> frequency for each channel can not be updated.







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#16827 Dec 30 3:51 AM

One of the nice features is you can use different pl (tone) for transmit or receive. On our repeater we use one tone for transmit and another for receive, a piece of cake for this rig. Just remember the last settings in the menus remain so you have to check each one before doing a menu 27.Another point is - I have programmed most of my memories for low power as the default. If I need more only a quick push of the '*' will up the power if needed, it is, after all, a handie talkie and not a high powered rig and the difference between 1 watt and 5 watt isn't a whole lot. But it will affect the battery life!Rudi



From: Jim Unroe rock.unroe@...> To: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [baofeng_uv5r] Re: Programmed Repeater Channels and CTSS/PL

��Power level can be temporarily be toggled by tapping the [#] key (for BFB251 and lower firmware, TDR must be OFF for it to work).Jim KC9HI

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:50 PM, mickeyclicker mickeyclicker@...> wrote:

��So, only the transmit freq and transmit tone can be added or changed. That's weird. Power level (menu 2), if anything, at least should be adjustable on the fly. PTT-ID should probably be switchable on/off at will as well. And even though I don't use it, BCL should be changeable too. Oh well, it's a nice toy for 50 bucks. Thanks for detailing the breakdown of those - I wouldn't have bothered.

--- In baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com, Jim Unroe rock.unroe@...> wrote:

>

> Correct. Menu 12, 13 and the TX frequency for each channel can be updated

> in-the-field whenever necessary. Menu 2, 5, 10, 10, 17, 19, 23 and the RX

> frequency for each channel can not be updated.



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