Re: [Bulk] Re: Morse code Re: [baofeng_uv5r] Re: kerchunking a repea


Aug 16, 2014

 


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#43946 Aug 16, 2014

IIRC it was the early 90s . the old HF/CW based SOLAS (Safety of Life At Sea) system was finally retired as it had gone to a satellite based system.. .When ham radio first started, well, everyone did morse because that was all there was... Later it was required as an adjunct for SOLAS and that remained the case (on hf anyway . we had a .Limited. license that had no morse, but you were restricted to 52mhz and up) until the SOLAS was withdrawn. .At the next WARC the requirement for morse as a .gateway. to HF operation was withdrawn and most countries withdrew the requirement from their ham licensing fairly soon afterwards.. .Hollywood aside, I would say it was really needed now, yes it can get through when voice can.t, but so can a lot of the digital and fuzzy modes, they mostly require a computer, but I.ve seen good copy coming from a signal I could barely hear and on one occasion, couldn.t hear at all, but the computer could. ��GeoffVK5GDR ��From: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com [mailto:baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2014 3:50 AMTo: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Bulk] Morse code Re: [baofeng_uv5r] Re: kerchunking a repeater



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#43948 Aug 16, 2014

Distress calls have gone through several iterations.... The original was CQD (with the mnemonic .come quick danger.) until SOS was standardised, and it was simply because it was easy to send and has a rhythm that makes it stand out, not because it actually meant anything... The voice .Mayday. call is actually an exception, it.s derived from M.aidez, French for .Help Me... .IIRC some automated hand cranked systems used during WW2 actually sent SSSS not SOS, maybe the .Gibson Girl. was one. ��GeoffVK5GDR �� ��From: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com [mailto:baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2014 4:52 AMTo: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Bulk] Re: Morse code Re: [baofeng_uv5r] Re: kerchunking a repeater



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#43950 Aug 16, 2014

IIRC, they used both signals from Titanic, the new SOS standard had just come in to force, they were the first to use SOS as such I think, the .Save Our Souls. reference is probably journalistic in origin . I don.t think it was more than a mnemonic to the operators. ��GeoffVK5GDR ��From: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com [mailto:baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2014 5:41 AMTo: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Bulk] Re: Morse code Re: [baofeng_uv5r] Re: kerchunking a repeater



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#43955 Aug 16, 2014

Interestingly this has crossed over into other areas of communications ��On the global AFTN (Aeronautical Fixed Telecommunications Network) used by ATC et al, messages are assigned a priority to the switching system (now automated but originally a bunch of com officers manually feeding teleprinter tape into senders depending on where it was going) It.s a two letter code and indicates how important and therefore how quickly the message has to be sent. ��SS(followed by five BELL signals). Distress Traffic . Highest Priority.DD Urgent message . given to a message that would normally have a lower priority but for some reason is more urgent.FF. Flight Safety messages, flight plans, departure messages etc.GG Flight Regularity (I think . it.s been a while) Arrival messages and similar.LL. Most other stuff met forecasts and so on.KK. Adminsitrivia . lowest of the low. ��GeoffVK5GDR �� ��From: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com [mailto:baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2014 6:21 AMTo: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Bulk] Re: Morse code Re: [baofeng_uv5r] Re: kerchunking a repeater



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#43985 Aug 16, 2014

www.hf.ro/#trdThe page I was looking for...��At 1:46 am they mention someone heard the titantic call SOS, but I believe they are referring to the cqd ...

--KF5QEOJohn Guillorywestlakegeek@...Cell: 601-754-9233Pinger: 337-240-7890Google Voice:��601-265-1307



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#43986 Aug 16, 2014

The reports I read said a mix of SOS and CQD, but SOS is morse code, there was no "save our souls", "save our ship", or other mnemonic attached to it. Those mnemonics were attached by folks who wanted an easy way to write about the call. It really doesn't stand for anything.



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#43991 Aug 16, 2014

The documentary I watched, perhaps the Ballard one, said they were sendingout emergency messages including the newly designated SOS, and they mentionedthe Save Our Souls possible meaning while talking about it.��I got a idea.... they say radio signals never die, but keeps going andgoing.�� So why don.t someone figure out the position of the earth when theTitanic sunk, the distance the signal has traveled since then.�� Build afaster then light speed vehicle, and race out into space to listen to the actualsignal and put this debate finally to rest :)����Bruce��From: mailto:baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 8:11 AMTo: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Morse code Re: [baofeng_uv5r] Re:kerchunking a repea



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#43992 Aug 16, 2014

The only debate here is what SOS means, not that it was sent or not. It did not mean "Save Our Souls". That was added by a clueless "documentarian". It's not an acronym, it has no word meaning. It's just a set of sounds.

Steve Spence, KK4HFJDirector, Green Trustwww.green-trust.org ---Links-Are-Forbidden--- m



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#43993 Aug 16, 2014

somewhat symmetrical with 3 dahs, 3 dits and then 3 dahs===easy for abt anyone to remember andsend if the radioman was down---

72/73 TIMOTHY-ALLEN ALBERTSON

KD.OIA/(ex KG6IRH)



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#43996 Aug 16, 2014

I thought some people were saying Titanic never sent SOS??�� Whatever:)�� Not really important.��I also want to correct something I said, David Sarnoff worked for theMarconi Wireless Company, not Morse.�� I have a mental block about the nameMarconi :)�� Spent a couple of sleepless nights replacing a flawed Marconiswitch with the same model years ago before replacing them with a differentmodel.��Bruce��From: mailto:baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:07 AMTo: baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Morse code Re: [baofeng_uv5r] Re:kerchunking a repea







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#43999 Aug 16, 2014

��==

Have scanner, will listen.





From: "'Bruce-WB2EQM' wb2eqm@... [baofeng_uv5r]" baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com>

Spent a couple of sleepless nights replacing a flawed Marconiswitch with the same model years ago before replacing them with a differentmodel.

"Thou shalt not contact an operator using a different brand radio."



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#44009 Aug 16, 2014

Let me guess....�� You got your ham license AFTER they eliminated themorse code requirement, didn't you��OSO OSO OSO OSO OSO����From: mailto:baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com



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#44010 Aug 16, 2014

yes

72/73 TIMOTHY-ALLEN ALBERTSONKD.OIA/(ex KG6IRH)



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#44051 Aug 17, 2014

I believe the debate has already been settled (if you read the Titantic transcript from the wireless operator that was posted).. They sent C-Q-D over and over.



On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Timothy-Allen Albertson kd0oia@... [baofeng_uv5r] baofeng_uv5r@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

.yes

72/73 TIMOTHY-ALLEN ALBERTSONKD.OIA/(ex KG6IRH)



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