Re: advice needed


Nov 18, 2005

 


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#30086 Nov 18, 2005

On a different topic, how are things going with the MBA observatory? Dean

Harless (Tommy's dad-2010)



>From: "Mark Manner" jmm@...>

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>To: ap-ug@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: [ap-ug] advice needed

>Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:22:27 -0000

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>Hello, OT to some extent, but I would appreciate your advice. I have

>an AP155/AP1200, which I am keeping, but I am also considering one of

>the following: TMB 203 F7, TMB 203 F9 (both only months old), and a TEC

>200 (new). The two F9s are the same price, the F7 a couple of thousand

>dollars more. Which of the three would you get, if any of them (perhaps

>waiting to find an AP180F9). Thanks for your thoughts, Mark Manner

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#30087 Nov 18, 2005

I'd get 2 F/9's and make a Binoscope :-)



Joe



Mark Manner wrote:

>Hello, OT to some extent, but I would appreciate your advice. I have

>an AP155/AP1200, which I am keeping, but I am also considering one of

>the following: TMB 203 F7, TMB 203 F9 (both only months old), and a TEC

>200 (new). The two F9s are the same price, the F7 a couple of thousand

>dollars more. Which of the three would you get, if any of them (perhaps

>waiting to find an AP180F9). Thanks for your thoughts, Mark Manner

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#30088 Nov 18, 2005

An excellent idea, but my closely spaced eyes may prohibit it.

--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, astrojoe astrojoe@o...> wrote:

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> I'd get 2 F/9's and make a Binoscope :-)

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> Joe

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> Mark Manner wrote:

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> >Hello, OT to some extent, but I would appreciate your advice. I

have

> >an AP155/AP1200, which I am keeping, but I am also considering one

of

> >the following: TMB 203 F7, TMB 203 F9 (both only months old), and

a TEC

> >200 (new). The two F9s are the same price, the F7 a couple of

thousand

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(perhaps

> >waiting to find an AP180F9). Thanks for your thoughts, Mark Manner

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#30089 Nov 18, 2005

I believe it is proceeding as planned. I need to get an update

myself. I will let you know. Mark

--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Harless" dmharless@h...> wrote:

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> On a different topic, how are things going with the MBA

observatory? Dean

> Harless (Tommy's dad-2010)

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> >From: "Mark Manner" jmm@h...>

> >Reply-To: ap-ug@yahoogroups.com

> >To: ap-ug@yahoogroups.com

> >Subject: [ap-ug] advice needed

> >Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:22:27 -0000

> >

> >Hello, OT to some extent, but I would appreciate your advice. I

have

> >an AP155/AP1200, which I am keeping, but I am also considering one

of

> >the following: TMB 203 F7, TMB 203 F9 (both only months old), and

a TEC

> >200 (new). The two F9s are the same price, the F7 a couple of

thousand

> >dollars more. Which of the three would you get, if any of them

(perhaps

> >waiting to find an AP180F9). Thanks for your thoughts, Mark Manner

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#30090 Nov 18, 2005

I can build the Binobacks to work for 54mm to 76mm IPD. You're narrower

than 54mm ?



Joe



Mark Manner wrote:

>An excellent idea, but my closely spaced eyes may prohibit it.

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>--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, astrojoe astrojoe@o...> wrote:

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>>I'd get 2 F/9's and make a Binoscope :-)

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#30091 Nov 18, 2005

but I am also considering one of > the following: TMB 203 F7, TMB 203 F9 (both only months old), and a

TEC > 200 (new). The two F9s are the same price, the F7 a couple of

thousand > dollars more. Which of the three would you get,



If I am going to go for a 200 I would bypass all three that you have

mentioned here and settle for a TEC fluorite version, I realize that

it requires a little more pocket change, but that is what I would

consider.



Thanks,

Vahe



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#30092 Nov 18, 2005

Joe, I was attempting humor in indicating I have little space between

my eyes! I should always follow advice given to me to "tell people

when you are joking, you are so bad at it". A twin 200 apo

binoviewer would be pretty amazing. I hate to think of the mount

needed. Regards, Mark



--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, astrojoe astrojoe@o...> wrote:

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> I can build the Binobacks to work for 54mm to 76mm IPD. You're

narrower

> than 54mm ?

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> Joe

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> Mark Manner wrote:

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> >An excellent idea, but my closely spaced eyes may prohibit it.

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> >--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, astrojoe astrojoe@o...> wrote:

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> >>I'd get 2 F/9's and make a Binoscope :-)

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> >>Joe

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> >>Mark Manner wrote:

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> >>>Hello, OT to some extent, but I would appreciate your advice. I

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Manner

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#30096 Nov 19, 2005

I will provide my AP180/F9 (or for > that matter AP206/F7)



Did AP produce F/7 version of their 8" apo? Man you are sitting on a

gold mine, if the slower version goes for 100K this one should be

worth at least twice that amount.



Thanks,

Vahe



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#30098 Nov 19, 2005

Vahe, actually the AP206 is a F/7.9. These were made I think for a 2

year run in early 90's. The only other 8 inch AP I am aware of is a

8inch F/15, made in late 80's (this may be fable). I am not aware of a

206/f7 (my mistake in prior message). I don't know where you got the

$100,000 from,but would be nice though. Joe

--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "vahe352" vahe@f...> wrote:

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> I will provide my AP180/F9 (or for

> > that matter AP206/F7)

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> Did AP produce F/7 version of their 8" apo? Man you are sitting on a

> gold mine, if the slower version goes for 100K this one should be

> worth at least twice that amount.

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> Thanks,

> Vahe

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#30104 Nov 20, 2005

Thanks to you and others for their advice on this topic. I got a lot

of good public and private information as usual. Best regards, Mark

Manner

PS--Joe, the 100k comes from Herb York's Astromart ad for his 8" AP.

--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "jjbadal2003" jbadal21169@a...> wrote:

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> Vahe, actually the AP206 is a F/7.9. These were made I think for a

2

> year run in early 90's. The only other 8 inch AP I am aware of is a

> 8inch F/15, made in late 80's (this may be fable). I am not aware

of a

> 206/f7 (my mistake in prior message). I don't know where you got

the

> $100,000 from,but would be nice though. Joe

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> --- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "vahe352" vahe@f...> wrote:

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> > I will provide my AP180/F9 (or for

> > > that matter AP206/F7)

> >

> > Did AP produce F/7 version of their 8" apo? Man you are sitting

on a

> > gold mine, if the slower version goes for 100K this one should be

> > worth at least twice that amount.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Vahe

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#30107 Nov 20, 2005

At 09:37 PM 11/18/2005, jjbadal2003 wrote:

>I went through same dilemma a year ago and ended up purchasing a

>used AP180/F9. If you like your 155, you will love the AP180. It is

>a very light , managable scope. Unfortunately there are no good

>objective comparisons available for 7 inch triplets . Very few

>people have observed simultatiously with different equipment in

>unbiased fashion (that I am aware of). AP has long term proven track

>record. Others still need to prove long term, consistent quality.

>You will pay a premium, but have a greater likely-hood of recouping

>your investment. FOR ANY TAKERS, I will provide my AP180/F9 (or for

>that matter AP206/F7) for a comparison with TMB or TEC. WSP might be

>a good place.



Joe: my 7" f/7 will be at WSP too ...



But I expect the differences may be very subtle.





Dave



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#30108 Nov 20, 2005

See you their, will have the AP206---Joe



In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@a...> wrote: >

> At 09:37 PM 11/18/2005, jjbadal2003 wrote:

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> >I went through same dilemma a year ago and ended up purchasing a

> >used AP180/F9. If you like your 155, you will love the AP180. It

is > >a very light , managable scope. Unfortunately there are no good

> >objective comparisons available for 7 inch triplets . Very few

> >people have observed simultatiously with different equipment in

> >unbiased fashion (that I am aware of). AP has long term proven

track > >record. Others still need to prove long term, consistent quality.

> >You will pay a premium, but have a greater likely-hood of

recouping > >your investment. FOR ANY TAKERS, I will provide my AP180/F9 (or

for > >that matter AP206/F7) for a comparison with TMB or TEC. WSP might

be > >a good place.

>

> Joe: my 7" f/7 will be at WSP too ...

>

> But I expect the differences may be very subtle.

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>

> Dave

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#30110 Nov 20, 2005

At 03:07 PM 11/20/2005, jjbadal2003 wrote:

>See you their, will have the AP206---Joe



I think that will be the first 206 down there since 1995 when Dan Good

brought his down.



Dave



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#30111 Nov 20, 2005

--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@a...> wrote: >

> At 03:07 PM 11/20/2005, jjbadal2003 wrote:

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> >See you their, will have the AP206---Joe

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> I think that will be the first 206 down there since 1995 when Dan Good

> brought his down.

>

> Dave



Dave,

What has happened to Dan? Haven't seen him at any WSP's I've been to

since the late 90's. --Greg



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#30112 Nov 20, 2005

--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@a...> wrote: >

> At 03:07 PM 11/20/2005, jjbadal2003 wrote:

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> >See you their, will have the AP206---Joe

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> I think that will be the first 206 down there since 1995 when Dan

Good > brought his down.

>

> Dave



Dave,



There was a 206 there this year.



Steve



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#30113 Nov 21, 2005

At 05:02 PM 11/20/2005, gpalman wrote: >--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@a...> wrote:

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> > At 03:07 PM 11/20/2005, jjbadal2003 wrote:

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> > >See you their, will have the AP206---Joe

> >

> > I think that will be the first 206 down there since 1995 when Dan Good

> > brought his down.

> >

> > Dave

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>Dave,

>What has happened to Dan? Haven't seen him at any WSP's I've been to

>since the late 90's. --Greg



Since he bought Jack Newton's place at Chiefland, he doesn't get down to

WSP ...

He goes to Chiefland several times a year now that he is retired.



Dave



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#30114 Nov 21, 2005

At 07:21 PM 11/20/2005, sqrlman7 wrote: >--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@a...> wrote:

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> > At 03:07 PM 11/20/2005, jjbadal2003 wrote:

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> > >See you their, will have the AP206---Joe

> >

> > I think that will be the first 206 down there since 1995 when Dan

>Good

> > brought his down.

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> > Dave

>

>Dave,

>

> There was a 206 there this year.

>

>Steve



Hmmm wonder how I missed it ... where was it?



Dave



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#30125 Nov 21, 2005

--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@a...> wrote: >

> At 07:21 PM 11/20/2005, sqrlman7 wrote:

> >--- In ap-ug@yahoogroups.com, "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@a...> wrote:

> > >

> > > At 03:07 PM 11/20/2005, jjbadal2003 wrote:

> > >

> > > >See you their, will have the AP206---Joe

> > >

> > > I think that will be the first 206 down there since 1995 when

Dan > >Good

> > > brought his down.

> > >

> > > Dave

> >

> >Dave,

> >

> > There was a 206 there this year.

> >

> >Steve

>

> Hmmm wonder how I missed it ... where was it?

>

> Dave



It was near the area where you normally are set up but closer to

the road. A little east of where the binocular Newtonian (16"?) was

located.



Steve






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