Re: 1200 shipping containers


Sep 8, 2003

 


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#8552 Sep 8, 2003

Can anyone suggest a source for storage/carrying cases for the 1200?



Thanks,



Bill



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#8554 Sep 8, 2003

Hi Bill, Well there's one business that I will personally tell you NOT to so business with, and that's NRG Cases in N Hollywood, CA, and in Las vegas NV.



Although Dave Jurasevich had good luck with them, as he was a local customer, my experience was absolutely the worst with these folks. I've never been taken for such a ride in my life as I had with them. Thier son first stole my payment, they messed up on the case size (Too large) and they shipped my cases cross country unprotected. Some idiot there just slapped a lable on them, and shipped them. They were so full of crap telling me that UPS took them out of the boxes at some halfway point.



Then they screwed up shipping them Blue label second day air, which actually took a week to arrive. I refused to pay them the $200 they wanted for shipping, and stopped payment on a personal check.



Don Holcomb at ScopeGuard Cases seems to be making real fine products, both for scopes, and for mounts. I've heard nothing but 100% satisfied customers from Don, and TEC Telescopes themselves insist on using Don's cases for thier 140mm Apo, and Mak Scopes. I'm sure Don could make a set of very sweet cases for the 1200GTO. Naturally you need two cases for this mount. To pack the entire 1200 Head into one case would just be too much. It would be way too heavy, and would compromise the protection for this mount.



My personal "NRG" Cases are not all that bad considering, but when you're gonna spend $600 to perhaps $800 for a pair of ATA type Flight cases, you want the best for your money. I think Don would be the one to come through for you.



Marty Cohen at Company 7 can also have 1200 cases made for you. You can go as far as getting them Velvet lined, the whole 9 yards! I'm sure they're gorgeous. Expect to pay in excess of $1,000 for these. They are most likely made by Calzone I'm pretty sure. Mark



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#8556 Sep 8, 2003

Hi Mark,



Thanks so much for the tips. I'll definitely follow your advice.



Bill



-----Original Message-----

From: Mark [mailto:markdambrosio@...]

Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 7:35 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 shipping containers





Hi Bill, Well there's one business that I will personally tell you NOT to

so business with, and that's NRG Cases in N Hollywood, CA, and in Las vegas

NV.



Although Dave Jurasevich had good luck with them, as he was a local

customer, my experience was absolutely the worst with these folks. I've

never been taken for such a ride in my life as I had with them. Thier son

first stole my payment, they messed up on the case size (Too large) and they

shipped my cases cross country unprotected. Some idiot there just slapped a

lable on them, and shipped them. They were so full of crap telling me that

UPS took them out of the boxes at some halfway point.



Then they screwed up shipping them Blue label second day air, which actually

took a week to arrive. I refused to pay them the $200 they wanted for

shipping, and stopped payment on a personal check.



Don Holcomb at ScopeGuard Cases seems to be making real fine products, both

for scopes, and for mounts. I've heard nothing but 100% satisfied customers

from Don, and TEC Telescopes themselves insist on using Don's cases for

thier 140mm Apo, and Mak Scopes. I'm sure Don could make a set of very

sweet cases for the 1200GTO. Naturally you need two cases for this mount. To

pack the entire 1200 Head into one case would just be too much. It would be

way too heavy, and would compromise the protection for this mount.



My personal "NRG" Cases are not all that bad considering, but when you're

gonna spend $600 to perhaps $800 for a pair of ATA type Flight cases, you

want the best for your money. I think Don would be the one to come through

for you.



Marty Cohen at Company 7 can also have 1200 cases made for you. You can go

as far as getting them Velvet lined, the whole 9 yards! I'm sure they're

gorgeous. Expect to pay in excess of $1,000 for these. They are most

likely made by Calzone I'm pretty sure. Mark





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#8557 Sep 8, 2003

Mark.....as usual thank you for the kind words in reference to our

cases.



Don

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" markdambrosio@w...> wrote:

> Hi Bill, Well there's one business that I will personally tell you

NOT to so business with, and that's NRG Cases in N Hollywood, CA, and

in Las vegas NV.

>

> Although Dave Jurasevich had good luck with them, as he was a local

customer, my experience was absolutely the worst with these folks.

I've never been taken for such a ride in my life as I had with them.

Thier son first stole my payment, they messed up on the case size

(Too large) and they shipped my cases cross country unprotected.

Some idiot there just slapped a lable on them, and shipped them.

They were so full of crap telling me that UPS took them out of the

boxes at some halfway point.

>

> Then they screwed up shipping them Blue label second day air, which

actually took a week to arrive. I refused to pay them the $200 they

wanted for shipping, and stopped payment on a personal check.

>

> Don Holcomb at ScopeGuard Cases seems to be making real fine

products, both for scopes, and for mounts. I've heard nothing but

100% satisfied customers from Don, and TEC Telescopes themselves

insist on using Don's cases for thier 140mm Apo, and Mak Scopes. I'm

sure Don could make a set of very sweet cases for the 1200GTO.

Naturally you need two cases for this mount. To pack the entire 1200

Head into one case would just be too much. It would be way too

heavy, and would compromise the protection for this mount.

>

> My personal "NRG" Cases are not all that bad considering, but when

you're gonna spend $600 to perhaps $800 for a pair of ATA type Flight

cases, you want the best for your money. I think Don would be the

one to come through for you.

>

> Marty Cohen at Company 7 can also have 1200 cases made for you. You

can go as far as getting them Velvet lined, the whole 9 yards! I'm

sure they're gorgeous. Expect to pay in excess of $1,000 for these.

They are most likely made by Calzone I'm pretty sure. Mark







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#8558 Sep 8, 2003

Bill,



Hi....we, ScopeGuard, build custom cases for just about everything

including the AP1200GTO. You can contact me off group at

donholco@... if you are interested.



Regards,

Don

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "dynaflopumps" wtf@d...> wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a source for storage/carrying cases for the 1200?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bill



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#8565 Sep 8, 2003

Although I have not (yet) purchased cases for my 1200 mount, I did

get a custom case made by Don with Scopeguard Cases for my AP155EDF.

I wanted a case that had a full measure of safety for shipping the

scope via airlines. The smaller grey AP case that comes with the 155

is fine for normal out to the observing site type of run, but I

wanted much more for shipping the scope when I am not the one doing

the handling. Extremely well made and nice to look at to boot! Check

them out at:



www.scopeguard.com/



Rick.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "dynaflopumps" wtf@d...> wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a source for storage/carrying cases for the 1200?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bill



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#8568 Sep 9, 2003

Bill,



I have had scopeguard make me a few cases and their customer service is

great too. Presently using two cases for my 1200 mount and counterwieghts.

Don even made me a huge case for my scope. It does look like a coffin

though, but it is very sturdy, looks great and gets the job done



Another satisfied customer.



Mark



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#8575 Sep 9, 2003

Check out Thermodyne -- there are pictures in the "files" section of

this site.



I bought two cases for my 1200. Nothing against scopeguard (I've

never actually seen their products, only the pictures), but the

Thermodyne cases are great. The interior "foam" is incredibly

sturdy. I would get wheels for at least one of the cases -- the

mount as you know is heavy. It will take two cases to hold the

1200. At the end of the day, it's easier to roll them than to carry

them any significant distance.



W/two cases you can store the two mount pieces, the keypad, and

several other smaller accessories.



I'll eventually get another case for counterweights, counterweight

shaft, mounting rings, and mounting plate.



They probably have the 1200 dimensions in a file somewhere. I have

no idea what they charge at this point.



Just adding my two cents that you should at least check it out.



Chuck

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "dynaflopumps" wtf@d...> wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a source for storage/carrying cases for the 1200?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bill



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#8576 Sep 10, 2003

At the suggestion of someone from another list, I purchase a case from

Cabbage Cases, www.cabbagecases.com They make cases for sound equipment,

photography equipment, etc. It arrived last Friday and I'm very pleased

with quality and service I received. I bought the case for an AP400 and

they custom cut the foam to fit every accessory associated with my

mount, including the polar scope. They have stock cases that the foam

can be custom cut or you can have the case made to order. It came with a

pull out handle and roller wheels similar to a suitcase to facilitate

easier handling. Talk to Bud, he was extremely helpful.



Scott Hammonds





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Subject: [ap-gto] 1200 shipping containers



Can anyone suggest a source for storage/carrying cases for the 1200?



Thanks,



Bill





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#8737 Sep 20, 2003

I have the Thermodyne cases for the 1200GTO.



The biggest plus is that the foam interior is fitted to the shape of

the mount halves. Also, the exterior skin is very tough. The looks

are strictly "industrial".



The biggest negative is delivery time. I think I had to nag them

for nearly a _year_ before they finally delivered it.



It's a good case, if you can get delivery.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "diskprotek" wrote:

> Check out Thermodyne



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#8764 Sep 23, 2003

Hi James, Awhile back, when I had contacted Thermodyne, they seemed

very eager to discuss, design, and manufacture the cases for the

1200GTO Mount Head. Problem was, a few of us that recieved these did

NOT like the cases. I myself thought, and my view was shared with

others, that the cases were inadequate with the amount of foam

protection around the mount,(Even though the foam used was hi-

density Ethafoam, there was only 3/4" in some areas) the fact that

for the Polar halve required that the mount be placed exactly at a

predetermined latitude setting to even get the case to fit inside

(Which was a real pain IMO), and that the supplied off the shelf

cases were just not exactly the correct required size. They were a

makeshift arrangement from what Thermodyne had on their shelves

there,(An in-stock size) and not truly a custom size specifically

designed for the AP1200GTO. Had we ordered 1000 of these cases, I'm

sure Thermodyne would have then made the required correct size

cases. My other dislike of these cases (Yes, I had a pair, and they

quickly went back) were thier supposedly Mil-Spec latches, and

hinges, and they looked quite wimpy to me, and displayed slop also.

What are your thoughts about my observations on these cases?



I did not have any type of problem with thier promptness, or

willingness to provide thier products though. Mark--- In ap-

gto@yahoogroups.com, "James Van Artsdalen" james-egroups@j...>

wrote: > I have the Thermodyne cases for the 1200GTO.

>

> The biggest plus is that the foam interior is fitted to the shape

of > the mount halves. Also, the exterior skin is very tough. The

looks > are strictly "industrial".

>

> The biggest negative is delivery time. I think I had to nag them

> for nearly a _year_ before they finally delivered it.

>

> It's a good case, if you can get delivery.

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "diskprotek" wrote:

> > Check out Thermodyne







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#8777 Sep 23, 2003

Hello:



I did not have any of the delay problems w/the cases. My only

problem was that they shipped me the wrong color. They promptly paid

to have the cases shipped back and sent me the right color (and added

wheels to one of the cases at not charge). I thought they were very

helpful.



I don't understand the placement issue you describe -- there are no

predetermined settings required to place the mount pieces in the

cases.



W/regard to the thickness surrounding the mount, I guess that's

something to consider -- but you also have to take into account the

shape of the outer shell and its ability to distribute any load

applied.



I'm pleased. I'd post pictures, but I don't think there is anything

to add to the pictures already in the files section.



Chuck

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" markdambrosio@w...> wrote:

> Hi James, Awhile back, when I had contacted Thermodyne, they seemed

> very eager to discuss, design, and manufacture the cases for the

> 1200GTO Mount Head. Problem was, a few of us that recieved these

did

> NOT like the cases. I myself thought, and my view was shared with

> others, that the cases were inadequate with the amount of foam

> protection around the mount,(Even though the foam used was hi-

> density Ethafoam, there was only 3/4" in some areas) the fact that

> for the Polar halve required that the mount be placed exactly at a

> predetermined latitude setting to even get the case to fit inside

> (Which was a real pain IMO), and that the supplied off the shelf

> cases were just not exactly the correct required size. They were a

> makeshift arrangement from what Thermodyne had on their shelves

> there,(An in-stock size) and not truly a custom size specifically

> designed for the AP1200GTO. Had we ordered 1000 of these cases,

I'm

> sure Thermodyne would have then made the required correct size

> cases. My other dislike of these cases (Yes, I had a pair, and they

> quickly went back) were thier supposedly Mil-Spec latches, and

> hinges, and they looked quite wimpy to me, and displayed slop also.

> What are your thoughts about my observations on these cases?

>

> I did not have any type of problem with thier promptness, or

> willingness to provide thier products though. Mark--- In ap-

> gto@yahoogroups.com, "James Van Artsdalen" james-egroups@j...>

> wrote:

> > I have the Thermodyne cases for the 1200GTO.

> >

> > The biggest plus is that the foam interior is fitted to the shape

> of

> > the mount halves. Also, the exterior skin is very tough. The

> looks

> > are strictly "industrial".

> >

> > The biggest negative is delivery time. I think I had to nag them

> > for nearly a _year_ before they finally delivered it.

> >

> > It's a good case, if you can get delivery.

> >

> > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "diskprotek" wrote:

> > > Check out Thermodyne



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#8801 Sep 25, 2003

I have experience with thermodyne as well. Had one built for a 12.5 RC.

I also had a Hardigg case

www.cpd-cases.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CI&Category_Code=hardigg

built for my FCT150. There is no comparison. The Hardigg Case is by

far the superior product. A true shipping quality case where the

Thermodyne is not.



Michael Cole

UrbanImager Astrophotography website

home.earthlink.net/~urbanimager/index.htm







Mark wrote:

>Hi James, Awhile back, when I had contacted Thermodyne, they seemed

>very eager to discuss, design, and manufacture the cases for the

>1200GTO Mount Head. Problem was, a few of us that recieved these did

>NOT like the cases. I myself thought, and my view was shared with

>others, that the cases were inadequate with the amount of foam

>protection around the mount,(Even though the foam used was hi-

>density Ethafoam, there was only 3/4" in some areas) the fact that

>for the Polar halve required that the mount be placed exactly at a

>predetermined latitude setting to even get the case to fit inside

>(Which was a real pain IMO), and that the supplied off the shelf

>cases were just not exactly the correct required size. They were a

>makeshift arrangement from what Thermodyne had on their shelves

>there,(An in-stock size) and not truly a custom size specifically

>designed for the AP1200GTO. Had we ordered 1000 of these cases, I'm

>sure Thermodyne would have then made the required correct size

>cases. My other dislike of these cases (Yes, I had a pair, and they

>quickly went back) were thier supposedly Mil-Spec latches, and

>hinges, and they looked quite wimpy to me, and displayed slop also.

>What are your thoughts about my observations on these cases?

>

>I did not have any type of problem with thier promptness, or

>willingness to provide thier products though. Mark--- In ap-

>gto@yahoogroups.com, "James Van Artsdalen" james-egroups@j...>

>wrote:

>

>

>>I have the Thermodyne cases for the 1200GTO.

>>

>>The biggest plus is that the foam interior is fitted to the shape

>>

>>

>of

>

>

>>the mount halves. Also, the exterior skin is very tough. The

>>

>>

>looks

>

>

>>are strictly "industrial".

>>

>>The biggest negative is delivery time. I think I had to nag them

>>for nearly a _year_ before they finally delivered it.

>>

>>It's a good case, if you can get delivery.

>>

>>--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "diskprotek" wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Check out Thermodyne

>>>

>>>

>

>

>

>

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#8826 Sep 28, 2003

I agree with Michael Cole that the Thermodyne cases are not the best.



Over a year ago, as part of a bulk purchase w/other AP mount owners,

Thermodyne sent me two cases. I sent them back for several reasons.



First, the company changed the case types w/o my permission. Second,

the foam was cut for a mount with a significantly different lattitude

than mine (I'd have to change my mount azimuth adjustment every time

I stored it in the case). Third, the case hardware did not appear to

be particularly robust. The latter was the most important limitation.





Michael Cole wrote: > I have experience with thermodyne as well. Had one built for a

12.5 RC. > I also had a Hardigg case

> www.cpd-cases.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?

Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CI&Category_Code=hardigg > built for my FCT150. There is no comparison. The Hardigg Case is

by > far the superior product. A true shipping quality case where the

> Thermodyne is not.

>

> Michael Cole



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