Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park


Oct 16, 2002

 


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#5853 Oct 16, 2002

The declination axis of mount is always tilted 10 degrees to west in

Park3 position. The mount is perfectly polar aligned within one arc

second. Any explanation? Photo of mount available on request. Mahesh

Yadav



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#5854 Oct 16, 2002

In a message dated 10/16/2002 4:28:09 PM Central Daylight Time,

ryadav@... writes:



> The declination axis of mount is always tilted 10 degrees to west in

> Park3 position. The mount is perfectly polar aligned within one arc

> second. Any explanation



Your clock time entry is wrong, or you have not entered the proper daylight

savings number. Adjust the time until the mount parks at the proper point.

You can also check your longitude number to make sure it is correct. Either

of these errors will cause the mount to park there.



Roland Christen





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#11461 Jan 6, 2005

With an AP1200 mount

When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?



Thank you





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

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#11464 Jan 6, 2005

In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> With an AP1200 mount

> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still move in RA

> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>



How are you sending this park signal?



All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time without any

sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the power. No

need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will continue to

track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you powered down.



It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected Alt-Az

position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off the power.

Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the keypad into

the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.



Roland Christen





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#11466 Jan 6, 2005

I should have asked this more specific question,



I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount parks

to where I had designated "park" to be.

Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few hours

later the mount has moved in RA.



So my question is

Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the mount

stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?



I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at this

time





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park





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> In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> With an AP1200 mount

>> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still move in

>> RA

>> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>

>

> How are you sending this park signal?

>

> All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time without any

> sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

> power. No

> need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will continue

> to

> track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you powered

> down.

>

> It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected Alt-Az

> position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off the

> power.

> Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the keypad

> into

> the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

>

> Roland Christen

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#11469 Jan 6, 2005

Mark,

My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope does not move

thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server settings" ?



Richard





At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>I should have asked this more specific question,

>

>I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount parks

>to where I had designated "park" to be.

>Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few hours

>later the mount has moved in RA.

>

>So my question is

>Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the mount

>stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>

>I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

>again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at this

>time

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

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>----- Original Message -----

>From: chris1011@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

> > aajohnah@... writes:

> >

> >

> >> With an AP1200 mount

> >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still move in

> >> RA

> >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> >>

> >

> > How are you sending this park signal?

> >

> > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time without any

> > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

> > power. No

> > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will continue

> > to

> > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you powered

> > down.

> >

> > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected Alt-Az

> > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off the

> > power.

> > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the keypad

> > into

> > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

> >

> > Roland Christen

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#11470 Jan 6, 2005

In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:57:22 AM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the mount

>

> stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>

> I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

> again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at this

> time

>



Yes. The command to stop moving is a specific command which is given in the

command protocol. I do not know if The Sky actually sends this "stop moving"

command to the mount. If it does not do so, the mount will continue to track at

the sidereal rate since no command has been sent to stop tracking. If The Sky

does not send this stop command, then you will have to type it in and send it

manually.



Roland Christen





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#11472 Jan 6, 2005

Roland,



thank you exactly what I needed to know

So more than likely TheSky does not send a park then stop command to the AP

mount, just the Park command and the mount then obviously moves.





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"







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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:39 AM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:57:22 AM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the

>> mount

>>

>> stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>>

>> I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

>> again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at

>> this

>> time

>>

>

> Yes. The command to stop moving is a specific command which is given in

> the

> command protocol. I do not know if The Sky actually sends this "stop

> moving"

> command to the mount. If it does not do so, the mount will continue to

> track at

> the sidereal rate since no command has been sent to stop tracking. If The

> Sky

> does not send this stop command, then you will have to type it in and send

> it

> manually.

>

> Roland Christen

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#11473 Jan 6, 2005

Roland,



You wrote: >> I do not know if The Sky actually sends this "stop moving"

>>command to the mount.



And, in a message dated 12/10/2001 7:05:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, you wrote:

>>Marj and I have checked out The Sky for various functions including Park, and

>>have not seen any problems - when used properly.



Has something changed wrt the AP's park command since you wrote the above? If so, please let me know.



Thanks.



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: chris1011@... [mailto:chris1011@...]

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:39 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park







In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:57:22 AM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the mount

>

> stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>

> I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

> again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at this

> time

>



Yes. The command to stop moving is a specific command which is given in the

command protocol. I do not know if The Sky actually sends this "stop moving"

command to the mount. If it does not do so, the mount will continue to track at

the sidereal rate since no command has been sent to stop tracking. If The Sky

does not send this stop command, then you will have to type it in and send it

manually.



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#11474 Jan 6, 2005

Richard,



Missed the allow set park

Might be the one that messed me up

Thank you





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park









Mark,

My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope does not move

thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server settings"

?



Richard





At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:



>I should have asked this more specific question,

>

>I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount parks

>to where I had designated "park" to be.

>Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few

>hours

>later the mount has moved in RA.

>

>So my question is

>Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the mount

>stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>

>I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

>again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at this

>time

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: chris1011@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

> > aajohnah@... writes:

> >

> >

> >> With an AP1200 mount

> >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still move

> >> in

> >> RA

> >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> >>

> >

> > How are you sending this park signal?

> >

> > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time without

> > any

> > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

> > power. No

> > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will

> > continue

> > to

> > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you

> > powered

> > down.

> >

> > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected

> > Alt-Az

> > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off the

> > power.

> > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the

> > keypad

> > into

> > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

> >

> > Roland Christen

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#11478 Jan 6, 2005

In a message dated 1/6/2005 11:25:56 AM Central Standard Time,

daniel@... writes:



>

> Has something changed wrt the AP's park command since you wrote the above?

> If so, please let me know.

>



Nothing has changed in the command protocol.



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#11483 Jan 6, 2005

That did not work

Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though since I am not

running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"





----- Original Message -----

From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park









Mark,

My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope does not move

thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server settings"

?



Richard





At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:



>I should have asked this more specific question,

>

>I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount parks

>to where I had designated "park" to be.

>Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few

>hours

>later the mount has moved in RA.

>

>So my question is

>Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the mount

>stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>

>I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

>again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at this

>time

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: chris1011@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

> > aajohnah@... writes:

> >

> >

> >> With an AP1200 mount

> >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still move

> >> in

> >> RA

> >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> >>

> >

> > How are you sending this park signal?

> >

> > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time without

> > any

> > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

> > power. No

> > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will

> > continue

> > to

> > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you

> > powered

> > down.

> >

> > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected

> > Alt-Az

> > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off the

> > power.

> > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the

> > keypad

> > into

> > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

> >

> > Roland Christen

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#11487 Jan 6, 2005

Mark

Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into TheSky 6? Also,

you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to see if that

works differently.



Richard









At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>That did not work

>Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though since I am not

>running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>

>Mark,

>My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope does not move

>thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server settings"

>?

>

>Richard

>

>

>At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>

> >I should have asked this more specific question,

> >

> >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount parks

> >to where I had designated "park" to be.

> >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few

> >hours

> >later the mount has moved in RA.

> >

> >So my question is

> >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the mount

> >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

> >

> >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

> >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at this

> >time

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: chris1011@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

> > > aajohnah@... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > >> With an AP1200 mount

> > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still move

> > >> in

> > >> RA

> > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> > >>

> > >

> > > How are you sending this park signal?

> > >

> > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time without

> > > any

> > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

> > > power. No

> > > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will

> > > continue

> > > to

> > > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you

> > > powered

> > > down.

> > >

> > > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected

> > > Alt-Az

> > > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off the

> > > power.

> > > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the

> > > keypad

> > > into

> > > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

> > >

> > > Roland Christen

> > >

> > >

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#11488 Jan 6, 2005

The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6



AP firmware 4.12



With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park your scope stays

in one place over time?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park







Mark

Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into TheSky 6? Also,

you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to see if that

works differently.



Richard









At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:



>That did not work

>Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though since I am not

>running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>

>Mark,

>My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope does not move

>thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

>settings"

>?

>

>Richard

>

>

>At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>

> >I should have asked this more specific question,

> >

> >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount

> >parks

> >to where I had designated "park" to be.

> >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few

> >hours

> >later the mount has moved in RA.

> >

> >So my question is

> >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the

> >mount

> >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

> >

> >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

> >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at

> >this

> >time

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: chris1011@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

> > > aajohnah@... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > >> With an AP1200 mount

> > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still move

> > >> in

> > >> RA

> > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> > >>

> > >

> > > How are you sending this park signal?

> > >

> > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time without

> > > any

> > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

> > > power. No

> > > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will

> > > continue

> > > to

> > > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you

> > > powered

> > > down.

> > >

> > > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected

> > > Alt-Az

> > > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off

> > > the

> > > power.

> > > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the

> > > keypad

> > > into

> > > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

> > >

> > > Roland Christen

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#11489 Jan 6, 2005

In a message dated 1/6/2005 7:09:31 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>

> AP firmware 4.12

>



The keypad software/firmware has no effect on the function of the servos when

you are controlling the mount via any other program, i.e. The Sky. In fact,

you can unplug the keypad without losing any functionality. Think of the keypad

as just another planetarium program that is sidelined when you control the

mount with a different program.



Roland Christen





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



----------------------------

#11490 Jan 6, 2005

Either way TheSkyv6 will park the mount but the mount is still tracking





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: chris1011@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:39 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/6/2005 7:09:31 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>>

>> AP firmware 4.12

>>

>

> The keypad software/firmware has no effect on the function of the servos

> when

> you are controlling the mount via any other program, i.e. The Sky. In

> fact,

> you can unplug the keypad without losing any functionality. Think of the

> keypad

> as just another planetarium program that is sidelined when you control the

> mount with a different program.

>

> Roland Christen

>

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#11491 Jan 6, 2005

Mark

Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount disconnects when it

gets to the Park position?





Richard









At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>

>AP firmware 4.12

>

>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park your scope stays

>in one place over time?

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>Mark

>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into TheSky 6? Also,

>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to see if that

>works differently.

>

>Richard

>

>

>

>

>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>

> >That did not work

> >Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though since I am not

> >running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> >

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Mark,

> >My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope does not move

> >thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

> >settings"

> >?

> >

> >Richard

> >

> >

> >At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

> >

> > >I should have asked this more specific question,

> > >

> > >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount

> > >parks

> > >to where I had designated "park" to be.

> > >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few

> > >hours

> > >later the mount has moved in RA.

> > >

> > >So my question is

> > >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the

> > >mount

> > >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

> > >

> > >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

> > >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at

> > >this

> > >time

> > >

> > >

> > >Mark

> > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > >N 27. 52' 20"

> > >W 082. 28' 57"

> > >

> > >

> > >----- Original Message -----

> > >From: chris1011@...>

> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

> > > > aajohnah@... writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >> With an AP1200 mount

> > > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still move

> > > >> in

> > > >> RA

> > > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > > How are you sending this park signal?

> > > >

> > > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time without

> > > > any

> > > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

> > > > power. No

> > > > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will

> > > > continue

> > > > to

> > > > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you

> > > > powered

> > > > down.

> > > >

> > > > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected

> > > > Alt-Az

> > > > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off

> > > > the

> > > > power.

> > > > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the

> > > > keypad

> > > > into

> > > > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

> > > >

> > > > Roland Christen

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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#11492 Jan 6, 2005

Yes you are right

Think that I found the issue tonight.

When Ascom v4 was installed looks like there is a driver issue here

I found a file that was not present in the v4 but in others

RegisterDriver.vbs

I put it in and looks like the mount stopped when parked

Doing a complete session now will know if works once again in am





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:28 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park







Mark

Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount disconnects when it

gets to the Park position?





Richard









At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:



>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>

>AP firmware 4.12

>

>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park your scope stays

>in one place over time?

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>Mark

>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into TheSky 6? Also,

>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to see if that

>works differently.

>

>Richard

>

>

>

>

>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>

> >That did not work

> >Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though since I am not

> >running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> >

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Mark,

> >My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope does not move

> >thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

> >settings"

> >?

> >

> >Richard

> >

> >

> >At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

> >

> > >I should have asked this more specific question,

> > >

> > >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount

> > >parks

> > >to where I had designated "park" to be.

> > >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few

> > >hours

> > >later the mount has moved in RA.

> > >

> > >So my question is

> > >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the

> > >mount

> > >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

> > >

> > >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

> > >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at

> > >this

> > >time

> > >

> > >

> > >Mark

> > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > >N 27. 52' 20"

> > >W 082. 28' 57"

> > >

> > >

> > >----- Original Message -----

> > >From: chris1011@...>

> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

> > > > aajohnah@... writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >> With an AP1200 mount

> > > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> > > >> move

> > > >> in

> > > >> RA

> > > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > > How are you sending this park signal?

> > > >

> > > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time

> > > > without

> > > > any

> > > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

> > > > power. No

> > > > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will

> > > > continue

> > > > to

> > > > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you

> > > > powered

> > > > down.

> > > >

> > > > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected

> > > > Alt-Az

> > > > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off

> > > > the

> > > > power.

> > > > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the

> > > > keypad

> > > > into

> > > > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

> > > >

> > > > Roland Christen

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > > >

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#11494 Jan 7, 2005

I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is a problem

with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



----- Original Message -----

From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:28 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park







Mark

Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount disconnects when it

gets to the Park position?





Richard









At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:



>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>

>AP firmware 4.12

>

>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park your scope stays

>in one place over time?

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>Mark

>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into TheSky 6? Also,

>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to see if that

>works differently.

>

>Richard

>

>

>

>

>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>

> >That did not work

> >Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though since I am not

> >running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> >

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Mark,

> >My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope does not move

> >thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

> >settings"

> >?

> >

> >Richard

> >

> >

> >At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

> >

> > >I should have asked this more specific question,

> > >

> > >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount

> > >parks

> > >to where I had designated "park" to be.

> > >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few

> > >hours

> > >later the mount has moved in RA.

> > >

> > >So my question is

> > >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the

> > >mount

> > >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

> > >

> > >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

> > >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at

> > >this

> > >time

> > >

> > >

> > >Mark

> > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > >N 27. 52' 20"

> > >W 082. 28' 57"

> > >

> > >

> > >----- Original Message -----

> > >From: chris1011@...>

> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

> > > > aajohnah@... writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >> With an AP1200 mount

> > > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> > > >> move

> > > >> in

> > > >> RA

> > > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > > How are you sending this park signal?

> > > >

> > > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time

> > > > without

> > > > any

> > > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

> > > > power. No

> > > > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will

> > > > continue

> > > > to

> > > > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you

> > > > powered

> > > > down.

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> > > > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected

> > > > Alt-Az

> > > > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off

> > > > the

> > > > power.

> > > > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the

> > > > keypad

> > > > into

> > > > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

> > > >

> > > > Roland Christen

> > > >

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#11495 Jan 7, 2005

In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:54:49 AM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is a problem

> with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

> The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off

>



The mount will respond to external commands. If it is not turning off then it

is not getting a command to do so. You can verify the function of the 1200

mount by sending the proper command manually using Hyperterminal. A program like

Portmon can determine if the turn off command is missing.



Roland Christen





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----------------------------

#11496 Jan 7, 2005

Mark,



Did you verify the status of the telescope cross hairs. Moving or not

after parking? You must zoom-in to see some motion if the telescope is

parked.



Good luck,

Yves





aajohnah wrote:

>I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is a problem

>with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

>The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:28 PM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>Mark

>Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount disconnects when it

>gets to the Park position?

>

>

>Richard

>

>

>

>

>At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>

>

>

>>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>>

>>AP firmware 4.12

>>

>>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park your scope stays

>>in one place over time?

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into TheSky 6? Also,

>>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to see if that

>>works differently.

>>

>>Richard

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>That did not work

>>>Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though since I am not

>>>running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

>>>

>>>

>>>Mark

>>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>----- Original Message -----

>>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

>>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Mark,

>>>My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope does not move

>>>thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

>>>settings"

>>>?

>>>

>>>Richard

>>>

>>>

>>>At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>I should have asked this more specific question,

>>>>

>>>>I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount

>>>>parks

>>>>to where I had designated "park" to be.

>>>>Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few

>>>>hours

>>>>later the mount has moved in RA.

>>>>

>>>>So my question is

>>>>Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the

>>>>mount

>>>>stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>>>>

>>>>I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

>>>>again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at

>>>>this

>>>>time

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Mark

>>>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>----- Original Message -----

>>>>From: chris1011@...>

>>>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>>>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

>>>>>aajohnah@... writes:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>With an AP1200 mount

>>>>>>When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

>>>>>>move

>>>>>>in

>>>>>>RA

>>>>>>over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>How are you sending this park signal?

>>>>>

>>>>>All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time

>>>>>without

>>>>>any

>>>>>sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

>>>>>power. No

>>>>>need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will

>>>>>continue

>>>>>to

>>>>>track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you

>>>>>powered

>>>>>down.

>>>>>

>>>>>It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected

>>>>>Alt-Az

>>>>>position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off

>>>>>the

>>>>>power.

>>>>>Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the

>>>>>keypad

>>>>>into

>>>>>the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

>>>>>

>>>>>Roland Christen

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>







----------------------------

#11497 Jan 7, 2005

Better, since there is nothing connected to the mount after a Park command

from TheSky. Everything terminates

Small level on the counterweight shaft. The bubble moves significantly over

5 min

This has been tested in a few ways, and there looks like a tracking stop

issue with TheSky at this point.

The mount parks perfectly all the time. Just not stop tracking signal goes

out





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Yves Laroche" yves.laroche@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park





>

> Mark,

>

> Did you verify the status of the telescope cross hairs. Moving or not

> after parking? You must zoom-in to see some motion if the telescope is

> parked.

>

> Good luck,

> Yves

>

>

> aajohnah wrote:

>

>>I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is a problem

>>with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

>>The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>

>>

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:28 PM

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount disconnects when it

>>gets to the Park position?

>>

>>

>>Richard

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>>>

>>>AP firmware 4.12

>>>

>>>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park your scope

>>>stays

>>>in one place over time?

>>>

>>>

>>>Mark

>>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>>----- Original Message -----

>>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Mark

>>>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into TheSky 6?

>>>Also,

>>>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to see if that

>>>works differently.

>>>

>>>Richard

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>That did not work

>>>>Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though since I am not

>>>>running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Mark

>>>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>----- Original Message -----

>>>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

>>>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Mark,

>>>>My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope does not

>>>>move

>>>>thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

>>>>settings"

>>>>?

>>>>

>>>>Richard

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>I should have asked this more specific question,

>>>>>

>>>>>I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200 mount. The mount

>>>>>parks

>>>>>to where I had designated "park" to be.

>>>>>Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I arrive a few

>>>>>hours

>>>>>later the mount has moved in RA.

>>>>>

>>>>>So my question is

>>>>>Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount and have the

>>>>>mount

>>>>>stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>>>>>

>>>>>I want the mount to move to the designated position, and no longer move

>>>>>again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to the mount at

>>>>>this

>>>>>time

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Mark

>>>>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>>>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>>>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>----- Original Message -----

>>>>>From: chris1011@...>

>>>>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>>>>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

>>>>>>aajohnah@... writes:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>With an AP1200 mount

>>>>>>>When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

>>>>>>>move

>>>>>>>in

>>>>>>>RA

>>>>>>>over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>How are you sending this park signal?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time

>>>>>>without

>>>>>>any

>>>>>>sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is to turn off the

>>>>>>power. No

>>>>>>need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the mount will

>>>>>>continue

>>>>>>to

>>>>>>track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it was when you

>>>>>>powered

>>>>>>down.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to a preselected

>>>>>>Alt-Az

>>>>>>position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode before turning off

>>>>>>the

>>>>>>power.

>>>>>>Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until you place the

>>>>>>keypad

>>>>>>into

>>>>>>the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Roland Christen

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>

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#11498 Jan 7, 2005

Roland,



When TheSky6's Telescope | Park command is invoked, TheSky6 sends the ":KA#" command to the AP control system.



Here is the latest AP documentation for the ":KA#" command:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Command: :KA#



Response: (none)

This command invokes the parked mode. The tracking stops and the motors are de-energized when slewing has completed.

The mount will remain parked, even if power is cycled, until a move, quit, calibrate, or park-off command is issued. However,

a power surge or glitch may cause the mount to start tracking once again.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<



1. Is this documentation correct?

2. Does TheSky6 have to send additional commands to park the AP mount?

3. Why has this issue not come up before?

4. Am I missing something?



I'd like to get to the bottom of this, and fix any issues. Thanks in advance for your help...



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: chris1011@... [mailto:chris1011@...]

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:49 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park







In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:54:49 AM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is a problem

> with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

> The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off

>



The mount will respond to external commands. If it is not turning off then it

is not getting a command to do so. You can verify the function of the 1200

mount by sending the proper command manually using Hyperterminal. A program like

Portmon can determine if the turn off command is missing.



Roland Christen





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#11499 Jan 7, 2005

In a message dated 1/7/2005 12:12:41 PM Central Standard Time,

daniel@... writes:



>

> Roland,

>

> When TheSky6's Telescope | Park command is invoked, TheSky6 sends the ":KA#"

> command to the AP control system.

>



Yes, that is correct. We just verified that again with TheSky6 and it does

work.



Roland Christen





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----------------------------

#11500 Jan 7, 2005

We verified that TheSky6 v6.0.0.20 parks properly when using the older control boxes and the new GTOCP3 control box. Here is an exerpt from our keypad manual that describes the procedure:



7).Parking the mount. This feature can be used by all GTO mounts. However, if your chip is dated earlier than 11-13-00, the power to your mount must remain on between sessions. Keep in mind, we recommend that the power be disconnected so that you minimize the chance of damage due to lightening or power surges.

a).Slew to the position that you want to designate as your park position.

b).Click Telescope | Options | Set Park Position to set that position.

c).When you have completed your observing session, select Telescope | Options | Park. The telescope will slew to the position that you have established.



Clear skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc.

11250 Forest Hills Road

Rockford, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

Please include this e-mail with your response.



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>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:51 AM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is

>a problem

>with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

>The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:28 PM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>Mark

>Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount

>disconnects when it

>gets to the Park position?

>

>

>Richard

>

>

>

>

>At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>

>>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>>

>>AP firmware 4.12

>>

>>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park

>your scope stays

>>in one place over time?

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into

>TheSky 6? Also,

>>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to see if that

>>works differently.

>>

>>Richard

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>> >That did not work

>> >Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though

>since I am not

>> >running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

>> >

>> >

>> >Mark

>> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>> >N 27. 52' 20"

>> >W 082. 28' 57"

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >----- Original Message -----

>> >From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

>> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >Mark,

>> >My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope

>does not move

>> >thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

>> >settings"

>> >?

>> >

>> >Richard

>> >

>> >

>> >At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>> >

>> > >I should have asked this more specific question,

>> > >

>> > >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200

>mount. The mount

>> > >parks

>> > >to where I had designated "park" to be.

>> > >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I

>arrive a few

>> > >hours

>> > >later the mount has moved in RA.

>> > >

>> > >So my question is

>> > >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount

>and have the

>> > >mount

>> > >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>> > >

>> > >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and

>no longer move

>> > >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to

>the mount at

>> > >this

>> > >time

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >Mark

>> > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>> > >N 27. 52' 20"

>> > >W 082. 28' 57"

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >----- Original Message -----

>> > >From: chris1011@...>

>> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > >

>> > > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

>> > > > aajohnah@... writes:

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >> With an AP1200 mount

>> > > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the

>mount still

>> > > >> move

>> > > >> in

>> > > >> RA

>> > > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>> > > >>

>> > > >

>> > > > How are you sending this park signal?

>> > > >

>> > > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time

>> > > > without

>> > > > any

>> > > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is

>to turn off the

>> > > > power. No

>> > > > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the

>mount will

>> > > > continue

>> > > > to

>> > > > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it

>was when you

>> > > > powered

>> > > > down.

>> > > >

>> > > > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to

>a preselected

>> > > > Alt-Az

>> > > > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode

>before turning off

>> > > > the

>> > > > power.

>> > > > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until

>you place the

>> > > > keypad

>> > > > into

>> > > > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

>> > > >

>> > > > Roland Christen

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>> > > >

>> > > >

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#11501 Jan 7, 2005

Marj and Roland,



Thanks for your help. Sorry to be a pest, but,



Mark Keitel wrote:

>>This has been tested in a few ways, and there looks like a tracking stop

>>issue with TheSky at this point.



Is this assertion wrong?



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: Marjorie Christen [mailto:marj@...]

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:37 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park







We verified that TheSky6 v6.0.0.20 parks properly when using the older control boxes and the new GTOCP3 control box. Here is an exerpt from our keypad manual that describes the procedure:



7).Parking the mount. This feature can be used by all GTO mounts. However, if your chip is dated earlier than 11-13-00, the power to your mount must remain on between sessions. Keep in mind, we recommend that the power be disconnected so that you minimize the chance of damage due to lightening or power surges.

a).Slew to the position that you want to designate as your park position.

b).Click Telescope | Options | Set Park Position to set that position.

c).When you have completed your observing session, select Telescope | Options | Park. The telescope will slew to the position that you have established.



Clear skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc.

11250 Forest Hills Road

Rockford, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

Please include this e-mail with your response.



>-----Original Message-----

>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:51 AM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is

>a problem

>with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

>The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:28 PM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>Mark

>Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount

>disconnects when it

>gets to the Park position?

>

>

>Richard

>

>

>

>

>At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>

>>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>>

>>AP firmware 4.12

>>

>>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park

>your scope stays

>>in one place over time?

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into

>TheSky 6? Also,

>>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to see if that

>>works differently.

>>

>>Richard

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>> >That did not work

>> >Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though

>since I am not

>> >running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

>> >

>> >

>> >Mark

>> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>> >N 27. 52' 20"

>> >W 082. 28' 57"

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >----- Original Message -----

>> >From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

>> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >Mark,

>> >My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope

>does not move

>> >thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

>> >settings"

>> >?

>> >

>> >Richard

>> >

>> >

>> >At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>> >

>> > >I should have asked this more specific question,

>> > >

>> > >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200

>mount. The mount

>> > >parks

>> > >to where I had designated "park" to be.

>> > >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I

>arrive a few

>> > >hours

>> > >later the mount has moved in RA.

>> > >

>> > >So my question is

>> > >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount

>and have the

>> > >mount

>> > >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>> > >

>> > >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and

>no longer move

>> > >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to

>the mount at

>> > >this

>> > >time

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >Mark

>> > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>> > >N 27. 52' 20"

>> > >W 082. 28' 57"

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >----- Original Message -----

>> > >From: chris1011@...>

>> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > >

>> > > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

>> > > > aajohnah@... writes:

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >> With an AP1200 mount

>> > > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the

>mount still

>> > > >> move

>> > > >> in

>> > > >> RA

>> > > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>> > > >>

>> > > >

>> > > > How are you sending this park signal?

>> > > >

>> > > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time

>> > > > without

>> > > > any

>> > > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is

>to turn off the

>> > > > power. No

>> > > > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the

>mount will

>> > > > continue

>> > > > to

>> > > > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it

>was when you

>> > > > powered

>> > > > down.

>> > > >

>> > > > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to

>a preselected

>> > > > Alt-Az

>> > > > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode

>before turning off

>> > > > the

>> > > > power.

>> > > > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until

>you place the

>> > > > keypad

>> > > > into

>> > > > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

>> > > >

>> > > > Roland Christen

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

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#11502 Jan 7, 2005

So then it never states that tracking will end once the mount has slewed to

the desired position?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"





----- Original Message -----

From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:37 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park







We verified that TheSky6 v6.0.0.20 parks properly when using the older

control boxes and the new GTOCP3 control box. Here is an exerpt from our

keypad manual that describes the procedure:



7) Parking the mount. This feature can be used by all GTO mounts. However,

if your chip is dated earlier than 11-13-00, the power to your mount must

remain on between sessions. Keep in mind, we recommend that the power be

disconnected so that you minimize the chance of damage due to lightening or

power surges.

a) Slew to the position that you want to designate as your park position.

b) Click Telescope | Options | Set Park Position to set that position.

c) When you have completed your observing session, select Telescope |

Options | Park. The telescope will slew to the position that you have

established.



Clear skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc.

11250 Forest Hills Road

Rockford, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

Please include this e-mail with your response.





>-----Original Message-----

>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:51 AM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is

>a problem

>with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

>The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:28 PM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>Mark

>Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount

>disconnects when it

>gets to the Park position?

>

>

>Richard

>

>

>

>

>At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>

>>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>>

>>AP firmware 4.12

>>

>>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park

>your scope stays

>>in one place over time?

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into

>TheSky 6? Also,

>>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to see if that

>>works differently.

>>

>>Richard

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>> >That did not work

>> >Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though

>since I am not

>> >running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

>> >

>> >

>> >Mark

>> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>> >N 27. 52' 20"

>> >W 082. 28' 57"

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >----- Original Message -----

>> >From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

>> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >Mark,

>> >My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope

>does not move

>> >thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

>> >settings"

>> >?

>> >

>> >Richard

>> >

>> >

>> >At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>> >

>> > >I should have asked this more specific question,

>> > >

>> > >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200

>mount. The mount

>> > >parks

>> > >to where I had designated "park" to be.

>> > >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I

>arrive a few

>> > >hours

>> > >later the mount has moved in RA.

>> > >

>> > >So my question is

>> > >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount

>and have the

>> > >mount

>> > >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>> > >

>> > >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and

>no longer move

>> > >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to

>the mount at

>> > >this

>> > >time

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >Mark

>> > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>> > >N 27. 52' 20"

>> > >W 082. 28' 57"

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >----- Original Message -----

>> > >From: chris1011@...>

>> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > >

>> > > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

>> > > > aajohnah@... writes:

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >> With an AP1200 mount

>> > > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the

>mount still

>> > > >> move

>> > > >> in

>> > > >> RA

>> > > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>> > > >>

>> > > >

>> > > > How are you sending this park signal?

>> > > >

>> > > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time

>> > > > without

>> > > > any

>> > > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is

>to turn off the

>> > > > power. No

>> > > > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the

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>> > > > powered

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>you place the

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>> > > > Roland Christen

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#11503 Jan 7, 2005

We cannot replicate the problem. TheSky6 works properly.



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>-----Original Message-----

>From: Daniel R. Bisque [mailto:daniel@...]

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:49 PM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>Marj and Roland,

>

>Thanks for your help. Sorry to be a pest, but,

>

>Mark Keitel wrote:

>

>>>This has been tested in a few ways, and there looks like a

>tracking stop

>>>issue with TheSky at this point.

>

>Is this assertion wrong?

>

>Daniel R. Bisque

>Software Bisque

>912 12th St.

>Golden, CO 80401

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>Email: daniel at bisque dot com

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>-----Original Message-----

>From: Marjorie Christen [mailto:marj@...]

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:37 PM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>We verified that TheSky6 v6.0.0.20 parks properly when using

>the older control boxes and the new GTOCP3 control box. Here

>is an exerpt from our keypad manual that describes the procedure:

>

>7).Parking the mount. This feature can be used by all GTO

>mounts. However, if your chip is dated earlier than 11-13-00,

>the power to your mount must remain on between sessions. Keep

>in mind, we recommend that the power be disconnected so that

>you minimize the chance of damage due to lightening or power surges.

>a).Slew to the position that you want to designate as your

>park position.

>b).Click Telescope | Options | Set Park Position to set

>that position.

>c).When you have completed your observing session, select

>Telescope | Options | Park. The telescope will slew to the

>position that you have established.

>

>Clear skies,

>Marj Christen

>Astro-Physics, Inc.

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>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:51 AM

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is

>>a problem

>>with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

>>The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>

>>

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:28 PM

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount

>>disconnects when it

>>gets to the Park position?

>>

>>

>>Richard

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>>>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>>>

>>>AP firmware 4.12

>>>

>>>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park

>>your scope stays

>>>in one place over time?

>>>

>>>

>>>Mark

>>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>>----- Original Message -----

>>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Mark

>>>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into

>>TheSky 6? Also,

>>>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to

>see if that

>>>works differently.

>>>

>>>Richard

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>>

>>> >That did not work

>>> >Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though

>>since I am not

>>> >running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >Mark

>>> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>> >N 27. 52' 20"

>>> >W 082. 28' 57"

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >----- Original Message -----

>>> >From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

>>> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >Mark,

>>> >My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope

>>does not move

>>> >thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

>>> >settings"

>>> >?

>>> >

>>> >Richard

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>> >

>>> > >I should have asked this more specific question,

>>> > >

>>> > >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200

>>mount. The mount

>>> > >parks

>>> > >to where I had designated "park" to be.

>>> > >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I

>>arrive a few

>>> > >hours

>>> > >later the mount has moved in RA.

>>> > >

>>> > >So my question is

>>> > >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount

>>and have the

>>> > >mount

>>> > >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>>> > >

>>> > >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and

>>no longer move

>>> > >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to

>>the mount at

>>> > >this

>>> > >time

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >Mark

>>> > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>> > >N 27. 52' 20"

>>> > >W 082. 28' 57"

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >----- Original Message -----

>>> > >From: chris1011@...>

>>> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>>> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > >

>>> > > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

>>> > > > aajohnah@... writes:

>>> > > >

>>> > > >

>>> > > >> With an AP1200 mount

>>> > > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the

>>mount still

>>> > > >> move

>>> > > >> in

>>> > > >> RA

>>> > > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>> > > >>

>>> > > >

>>> > > > How are you sending this park signal?

>>> > > >

>>> > > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time

>>> > > > without

>>> > > > any

>>> > > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is

>>to turn off the

>>> > > > power. No

>>> > > > need to physically park the mount. Upon power up, the

>>mount will

>>> > > > continue

>>> > > > to

>>> > > > track at the sidereal rate and will remember where it

>>was when you

>>> > > > powered

>>> > > > down.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > It is not necessary, but if you wish, you can slew to

>>a preselected

>>> > > > Alt-Az

>>> > > > position and place the keypad in the "Stop" mode

>>before turning off

>>> > > > the

>>> > > > power.

>>> > > > Upon power up, the mount will remain motionless until

>>you place the

>>> > > > keypad

>>> > > > into

>>> > > > the "sidereal" mode. Then it will resume tracking the stars.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Roland Christen

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#11504 Jan 7, 2005

Tracking will stop. We tested it here. Please outline the exact procedure that you used.



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>-----Original Message-----

>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:47 PM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>So then it never states that tracking will end once the mount

>has slewed to

>the desired position?

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:37 PM

>Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>We verified that TheSky6 v6.0.0.20 parks properly when using the older

>control boxes and the new GTOCP3 control box. Here is an

>exerpt from our

>keypad manual that describes the procedure:

>

>7) Parking the mount. This feature can be used by all GTO

>mounts. However,

>if your chip is dated earlier than 11-13-00, the power to your

>mount must

>remain on between sessions. Keep in mind, we recommend that

>the power be

>disconnected so that you minimize the chance of damage due to

>lightening or

>power surges.

>a) Slew to the position that you want to designate as your

>park position.

>b) Click Telescope | Options | Set Park Position to set that position.

>c) When you have completed your observing session, select Telescope |

>Options | Park. The telescope will slew to the position that you have

>established.

>

>Clear skies,

>Marj Christen

>Astro-Physics, Inc.

>11250 Forest Hills Road

>Rockford, IL 61115

>Phone: 815-282-1513

>Fax: 815-282-9847

>www.astro-physics.com

>Please include this e-mail with your response.

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>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:51 AM

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is

>>a problem

>>with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

>>The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>

>>

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:28 PM

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount

>>disconnects when it

>>gets to the Park position?

>>

>>

>>Richard

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>>>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>>>

>>>AP firmware 4.12

>>>

>>>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park

>>your scope stays

>>>in one place over time?

>>>

>>>

>>>Mark

>>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>>----- Original Message -----

>>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Mark

>>>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into

>>TheSky 6? Also,

>>>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to

>see if that

>>>works differently.

>>>

>>>Richard

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>>

>>> >That did not work

>>> >Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though

>>since I am not

>>> >running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >Mark

>>> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>> >N 27. 52' 20"

>>> >W 082. 28' 57"

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >----- Original Message -----

>>> >From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

>>> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >Mark,

>>> >My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope

>>does not move

>>> >thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

>>> >settings"

>>> >?

>>> >

>>> >Richard

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>> >

>>> > >I should have asked this more specific question,

>>> > >

>>> > >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200

>>mount. The mount

>>> > >parks

>>> > >to where I had designated "park" to be.

>>> > >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I

>>arrive a few

>>> > >hours

>>> > >later the mount has moved in RA.

>>> > >

>>> > >So my question is

>>> > >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount

>>and have the

>>> > >mount

>>> > >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>>> > >

>>> > >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and

>>no longer move

>>> > >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to

>>the mount at

>>> > >this

>>> > >time

>>> > >

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>>> > >From: chris1011@...>

>>> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>>> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>> > >

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>>> > > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

>>> > > > aajohnah@... writes:

>>> > > >

>>> > > >

>>> > > >> With an AP1200 mount

>>> > > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the

>>mount still

>>> > > >> move

>>> > > >> in

>>> > > >> RA

>>> > > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>> > > >>

>>> > > >

>>> > > > How are you sending this park signal?

>>> > > >

>>> > > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time

>>> > > > without

>>> > > > any

>>> > > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is

>>to turn off the

>>> > > > power. No

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>>> > > > Alt-Az

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>>you place the

>>> > > > keypad

>>> > > > into

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In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:47:06 PM Central Standard Time,

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> Mark Keitel wrote:

>

> >>This has been tested in a few ways, and there looks like a tracking stop

> >>issue with TheSky at this point.

>

> Is this assertion wrong?

>



As far as I know, that assertion would be wrong. He can test the mount

funcion by going to one of the Park positions on his Keypad. If the mount stops at

the end of the Park sequence using the keypad, then it will also do so with any

external planetarium program that sends the proper stop command. One can also

test the function using Hyperterminal and sending the KA stop command.



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#11506 Jan 7, 2005

In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:52:52 PM Central Standard Time,

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> So then it never states that tracking will end once the mount has slewed to

>

> the desired position



Does your mount stop tracking when you park via the keypad? If not, this

would indicate a problem with the servo. If it does stop with the keypad, you may

want to verify the command via Hyperterminal on your computer. This would

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#11507 Jan 7, 2005

TheSkyv6 connected serial port to AP1200 mount

At end of imaging session TheSky parks the mount. Mount parks perfectly

Mount still tracks in RA so since the mount is in Park 1 position the

counterweight shaft moves up and the scope moves down.



Maybe there is a problem then with the mount and not TheSky? I am just

trying to figure out where the problem lies with this scenario since I can

produce it 100% of the time





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"





----- Original Message -----

From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:54 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park







Tracking will stop. We tested it here. Please outline the exact procedure

that you used.



Clear skies,

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>-----Original Message-----

>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:47 PM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>So then it never states that tracking will end once the mount

>has slewed to

>the desired position?

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:37 PM

>Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>We verified that TheSky6 v6.0.0.20 parks properly when using the older

>control boxes and the new GTOCP3 control box. Here is an

>exerpt from our

>keypad manual that describes the procedure:

>

>7) Parking the mount. This feature can be used by all GTO

>mounts. However,

>if your chip is dated earlier than 11-13-00, the power to your

>mount must

>remain on between sessions. Keep in mind, we recommend that

>the power be

>disconnected so that you minimize the chance of damage due to

>lightening or

>power surges.

>a) Slew to the position that you want to designate as your

>park position.

>b) Click Telescope | Options | Set Park Position to set that position.

>c) When you have completed your observing session, select Telescope |

>Options | Park. The telescope will slew to the position that you have

>established.

>

>Clear skies,

>Marj Christen

>Astro-Physics, Inc.

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>Rockford, IL 61115

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>Fax: 815-282-9847

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>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:51 AM

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is

>>a problem

>>with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

>>The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>

>>

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:28 PM

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>Yes, it does not move. I assume the link to your mount

>>disconnects when it

>>gets to the Park position?

>>

>>

>>Richard

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>At 08:07 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>>>The AP gto mount driver in TheSkyv6

>>>

>>>AP firmware 4.12

>>>

>>>With using the above when TheSky tells your mount to park

>>your scope stays

>>>in one place over time?

>>>

>>>

>>>Mark

>>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>>----- Original Message -----

>>>From: "Richard Seavey" reseavey@...>

>>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:54 PM

>>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Mark

>>>Are you using the ASCOM driver or the AP driver built into

>>TheSky 6? Also,

>>>you might try using the Park feature of Pulseguide just to

>see if that

>>>works differently.

>>>

>>>Richard

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>At 03:04 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>>

>>> >That did not work

>>> >Mount keeps on moving. Server is not connected though

>>since I am not

>>> >running CCDSoft. Or is it connected to something else?

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >Mark

>>> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>> >N 27. 52' 20"

>>> >W 082. 28' 57"

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

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>>> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>> >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27 AM

>>> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >Mark,

>>> >My 1200 and TheSky 6 park the scope correctly and the scope

>>does not move

>>> >thereafter. Did you check both of the the Park boxes under "server

>>> >settings"

>>> >?

>>> >

>>> >Richard

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >At 10:55 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>>> >

>>> > >I should have asked this more specific question,

>>> > >

>>> > >I have TheSkyv6 send the "park" command to the 1200

>>mount. The mount

>>> > >parks

>>> > >to where I had designated "park" to be.

>>> > >Since this is done with me not in the Observatory, when I

>>arrive a few

>>> > >hours

>>> > >later the mount has moved in RA.

>>> > >

>>> > >So my question is

>>> > >Can one send a "park" command, or a command to the mount

>>and have the

>>> > >mount

>>> > >stop moving after the mount has reached its desired location?

>>> > >

>>> > >I want the mount to move to the designated position, and

>>no longer move

>>> > >again. The guider will no longer be sending commands to

>>the mount at

>>> > >this

>>> > >time

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >Mark

>>> > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

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>>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:45 AM

>>> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park

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>>> > > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:53:35 AM Central Standard Time,

>>> > > > aajohnah@... writes:

>>> > > >

>>> > > >

>>> > > >> With an AP1200 mount

>>> > > >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the

>>mount still

>>> > > >> move

>>> > > >> in

>>> > > >> RA

>>> > > >> over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>> > > >>

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>>> > > > How are you sending this park signal?

>>> > > >

>>> > > > All of our mounts can be parked wherever you wish at any time

>>> > > > without

>>> > > > any

>>> > > > sort of formal "Park" cammand. All you need to do is

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>>> > > > powered

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>>> > > > Alt-Az

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>>> > > > keypad

>>> > > > into

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>>> > > >

>>> > > > Roland Christen

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#11508 Jan 7, 2005

Will test the keypad later today



Test "want to verify the command via Hyperterminal on your computer" do not

know what that is. This has gone over my head now





Mark

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Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:56 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park





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> In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:52:52 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> So then it never states that tracking will end once the mount has slewed

>> to

>>

>> the desired position

>

> Does your mount stop tracking when you park via the keypad? If not, this

> would indicate a problem with the servo. If it does stop with the keypad,

> you may

> want to verify the command via Hyperterminal on your computer. This would

> establish that the mount is or is not the problem.

>

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#11509 Jan 7, 2005

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, chris1011@a... wrote: > In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:52:52 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@t... writes:

>

>

> > So then it never states that tracking will end once the mount has

slewed to > >

> > the desired position

>

> Does your mount stop tracking when you park via the keypad? If not,

this > would indicate a problem with the servo. If it does stop with the

keypad, you may > want to verify the command via Hyperterminal on your computer. This

would > establish that the mount is or is not the problem.

>

> Roland Christen



Is there some write-up on how to use Hyperterminal for this purpose?

I have Windows XP.



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#11510 Jan 7, 2005

In a message dated 1/7/2005 2:10:18 PM Central Standard Time,

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> Will test the keypad later today

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> Test "want to verify the command via Hyperterminal on your computer" do not

>

> know what that is. This has gone over my head now

>



Hyperterminal is a Windows program that comes with your Windows software

package and should be installed on your computer. I believe there is also a simple

mode in TheSky6 that allows you to manually enter a command. Just type in the

4 characters " :KA# " in the command window and press "send". The mount

should stop moving. You can verify that the motor is not turning by removing the

motor cover and looking at the motor shaft. First try it with the keypad to

make sure that the mount will stop at the end of the "park" command.



Roland Christen











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#11511 Jan 7, 2005

Alright

Later has come and gone



Used the hand controller and the mount parked and after 10min there was

still no movement. I would say that is long enough to wait



1) Hand controller works, mount parks and tracking stops tested for 10min

interval

2) TheSkyv6 is suppose to have the proper command in it ( will park the

mount, tracking does not stop )



I guess that would leave the computer now, doing something with the command

that TheSky is suppose to issue?

New computer with SP2 embedded into the operating system



Any suggestions on the next test so I can find the problem to this ?



Thank you



Mark



----- Original Message -----

From: chris1011@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:17 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/7/2005 2:10:18 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> Will test the keypad later today

>>

>> Test "want to verify the command via Hyperterminal on your computer" do

>> not

>>

>> know what that is. This has gone over my head now

>>

>

> Hyperterminal is a Windows program that comes with your Windows software

> package and should be installed on your computer. I believe there is also

> a simple

> mode in TheSky6 that allows you to manually enter a command. Just type in

> the

> 4 characters " :KA# " in the command window and press "send". The mount

> should stop moving. You can verify that the motor is not turning by

> removing the

> motor cover and looking at the motor shaft. First try it with the keypad

> to

> make sure that the mount will stop at the end of the "park" command.

>

> Roland Christen









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#11512 Jan 7, 2005

In a message dated 1/7/2005 2:10:18 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> Test "want to verify the command via Hyperterminal on your computer" do

> not

> know what that is. This has gone over my head now

>



After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and the mount is tracking

at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal". You will see a

dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount " :KA# ". Then verify

that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion of the motor shaft.



I don't know how to make it any easier for you to check out the system short

of flying out there myself.



Roland Christen





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----------------------------

#11513 Jan 7, 2005

I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

driver is not communicating properly with the mount. the mount seems

to get some of the command but seems to drop parts of it. I can see

this when I do a init mount and the LAT/Long has the seconds truncated

to 00 and the time zone offfset is set incorrectly(I use the get

location from mount command on the keypad). The result is I can't park

in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

tracking like it did a slew only. Now if I do the same using Pulse

Guide it works properly and I can now park in position #3 using The

Sky (I park in #3 using the keypad and then do a set park in The Sky

first).This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

is doing a mount init improperly. I wonder if installing the ASCOM4

upgrade has caused some sort of driver swap and The Sky may be using

the wrong AP driver. I have to admit that I did do the ASCOM upgrade

and Patch to The Sky ver 5 at the same time (don't remember the

order). I have never used The Sky to park before this and I had

intended to use the ASCOM4 to allow MaxinDL to control the mount thru

The Sky and Tpoint. I have not tested this part yet as we still have

storms comming through.

Jim



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

>

> With an AP1200 mount

> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>

> Thank you



----------------------------

#11514 Jan 7, 2005

Mark,



There's instructions for setting up and sending commands via a terminal application on the SB web site...



1. Go to www.bisque.com/telescope.

2. Search for "Using a Terminal Application"

3. Click on the "Using a terminal application" contents link.



Direct URL:

www.bisque.com/help/TheSkyV6/telescope/Telescope.htm#Using_a_Terminal_application.htm>



Hope this helps...



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:01 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park







Will test the keypad later today



Test "want to verify the command via Hyperterminal on your computer" do not

know what that is. This has gone over my head now





Mark

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To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:56 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:52:52 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> So then it never states that tracking will end once the mount has slewed

>> to

>>

>> the desired position

>

> Does your mount stop tracking when you park via the keypad? If not, this

> would indicate a problem with the servo. If it does stop with the keypad,

> you may

> want to verify the command via Hyperterminal on your computer. This would

> establish that the mount is or is not the problem.

>

> Roland Christen

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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#11515 Jan 7, 2005

Jim,



Right about the time of my upgrade to Ascomv4 this has happened to me too

Bob Denny stated that Ascom has nothing to do with TheSky and Bisque uses

their own drivers for this.





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:31 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

>

> I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> driver is not communicating properly with the mount. the mount seems

> to get some of the command but seems to drop parts of it. I can see

> this when I do a init mount and the LAT/Long has the seconds truncated

> to 00 and the time zone offfset is set incorrectly(I use the get

> location from mount command on the keypad). The result is I can't park

> in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> tracking like it did a slew only. Now if I do the same using Pulse

> Guide it works properly and I can now park in position #3 using The

> Sky (I park in #3 using the keypad and then do a set park in The Sky

> first).This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> is doing a mount init improperly. I wonder if installing the ASCOM4

> upgrade has caused some sort of driver swap and The Sky may be using

> the wrong AP driver. I have to admit that I did do the ASCOM upgrade

> and Patch to The Sky ver 5 at the same time (don't remember the

> order). I have never used The Sky to park before this and I had

> intended to use the ASCOM4 to allow MaxinDL to control the mount thru

> The Sky and Tpoint. I have not tested this part yet as we still have

> storms comming through.

> Jim

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

>>

>> With an AP1200 mount

>> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>

>> Thank you

>

>

>

>

>

>

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#11516 Jan 7, 2005

Mark,



1. If the "Telescope | Park" command is issued from TheSky6, then a ":KA#" command is being issued to the device.

2. You can verify, unequivocally, that TheSky6 is sending the command by logging TheSky6's serial commands.



How to Log Commands:

1. Go to www.bisque.com/telescope.

2. Search for "Logging Serial Communication"

3. Click on the "Logging Serial Communication" contents link.



Direct URL:

www.bisque.com/help/TheSkyV6/telescope/Telescope.htm#Logging_TheSky_Serial_Comm.htm>



After setting up TheSky6 to log the communication, perform the "Telescope |Park" sequence, and then open the "AP Log.txt" file using any text editor.



You'll see the ":KA#" somewhere in the sequence.



You can email the log file to me if you need help.



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:27 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park







Alright

Later has come and gone



Used the hand controller and the mount parked and after 10min there was

still no movement. I would say that is long enough to wait



1) Hand controller works, mount parks and tracking stops tested for 10min

interval

2) TheSkyv6 is suppose to have the proper command in it ( will park the

mount, tracking does not stop )



I guess that would leave the computer now, doing something with the command

that TheSky is suppose to issue?

New computer with SP2 embedded into the operating system



Any suggestions on the next test so I can find the problem to this ?



Thank you



Mark



----- Original Message -----

From: chris1011@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:17 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/7/2005 2:10:18 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> Will test the keypad later today

>>

>> Test "want to verify the command via Hyperterminal on your computer" do

>> not

>>

>> know what that is. This has gone over my head now

>>

>

> Hyperterminal is a Windows program that comes with your Windows software

> package and should be installed on your computer. I believe there is also

> a simple

> mode in TheSky6 that allows you to manually enter a command. Just type in

> the

> 4 characters " :KA# " in the command window and press "send". The mount

> should stop moving. You can verify that the motor is not turning by

> removing the

> motor cover and looking at the motor shaft. First try it with the keypad

> to

> make sure that the mount will stop at the end of the "park" command.

>

> Roland Christen









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#11517 Jan 7, 2005

So is there any way to confirm that The Sky is using the correct

driver? If there is I hope it is not to complicated. I am running

win2k Pro with the latest sp intalled. I hope we can get this all

sorted out as I want to use CCDautopilot which uses ASCOM4 (actually

ASCOM3 but I can only find the upgratde to ASCOM4).



Thanks

jim

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> Jim,

>

> Right about the time of my upgrade to Ascomv4 this has happened to

me too

> Bob Denny stated that Ascom has nothing to do with TheSky and Bisque

uses

> their own drivers for this.

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@p...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:31 PM

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> >

> > I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> > driver is not communicating properly with the mount. the mount seems

> > to get some of the command but seems to drop parts of it. I can see

> > this when I do a init mount and the LAT/Long has the seconds truncated

> > to 00 and the time zone offfset is set incorrectly(I use the get

> > location from mount command on the keypad). The result is I can't park

> > in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> > tracking like it did a slew only. Now if I do the same using Pulse

> > Guide it works properly and I can now park in position #3 using The

> > Sky (I park in #3 using the keypad and then do a set park in The Sky

> > first).This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> > is doing a mount init improperly. I wonder if installing the ASCOM4

> > upgrade has caused some sort of driver swap and The Sky may be using

> > the wrong AP driver. I have to admit that I did do the ASCOM upgrade

> > and Patch to The Sky ver 5 at the same time (don't remember the

> > order). I have never used The Sky to park before this and I had

> > intended to use the ASCOM4 to allow MaxinDL to control the mount thru

> > The Sky and Tpoint. I have not tested this part yet as we still have

> > storms comming through.

> > Jim

> >

> >

> > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> >>

> >> With an AP1200 mount

> >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> > move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> >>

> >> Thank you

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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#11518 Jan 7, 2005

* TheSky uses native drivers, and does not rely on third-party software for telescope control.

> I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> driver is not communicating properly with the mount.



This is not possible. TheSky verifies every command sent to the mount. If the correct response is not received by TheSky (for commands the provide a response), an error massage is posted.

> The result is I can't park

> in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> tracking like it did a slew only.



As I understand, this is because TheSky is converting alt/az coordinates to ra/dec, then issuing a "Go to RA/Dec" command instead of sending a "go to alt/az". Ray can clarify if necessary.

>This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> is doing a mount init improperly.



See above.



* Make sure you're using the latest version of TheSky 5 from www.bisque.com/hotfixes.







Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com



----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:31 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

>

> I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> driver is not communicating properly with the mount. the mount seems

> to get some of the command but seems to drop parts of it. I can see

> this when I do a init mount and the LAT/Long has the seconds truncated

> to 00 and the time zone offfset is set incorrectly(I use the get

> location from mount command on the keypad). The result is I can't park

> in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> tracking like it did a slew only. Now if I do the same using Pulse

> Guide it works properly and I can now park in position #3 using The

> Sky (I park in #3 using the keypad and then do a set park in The Sky

> first).This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> is doing a mount init improperly. I wonder if installing the ASCOM4

> upgrade has caused some sort of driver swap and The Sky may be using

> the wrong AP driver. I have to admit that I did do the ASCOM upgrade

> and Patch to The Sky ver 5 at the same time (don't remember the

> order). I have never used The Sky to park before this and I had

> intended to use the ASCOM4 to allow MaxinDL to control the mount thru

> The Sky and Tpoint. I have not tested this part yet as we still have

> storms comming through.

> Jim

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

>>

>> With an AP1200 mount

>> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>

>> Thank you

>

>

>

>

>

>

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#11519 Jan 7, 2005

TheSky uses the driver specified under Telescope | Setup.



If you select "Astro-Physics GTO German Equatorial Mount" then TheSky's native driver is used to control the telescope.

If you select "TeleAPI" then TheSky's will use the third-party driver from the TeleAPI.dll file to control the telescope.





Daniel R. Bisque

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USA

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-----Original Message-----

From: Jim Nomura [mailto:jnomura@...]

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:43 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park









So is there any way to confirm that The Sky is using the correct

driver? If there is I hope it is not to complicated. I am running

win2k Pro with the latest sp intalled. I hope we can get this all

sorted out as I want to use CCDautopilot which uses ASCOM4 (actually

ASCOM3 but I can only find the upgratde to ASCOM4).



Thanks

jim

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> Jim,

>

> Right about the time of my upgrade to Ascomv4 this has happened to

me too

> Bob Denny stated that Ascom has nothing to do with TheSky and Bisque

uses

> their own drivers for this.

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@p...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:31 PM

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> >

> > I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> > driver is not communicating properly with the mount. the mount seems

> > to get some of the command but seems to drop parts of it. I can see

> > this when I do a init mount and the LAT/Long has the seconds truncated

> > to 00 and the time zone offfset is set incorrectly(I use the get

> > location from mount command on the keypad). The result is I can't park

> > in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> > tracking like it did a slew only. Now if I do the same using Pulse

> > Guide it works properly and I can now park in position #3 using The

> > Sky (I park in #3 using the keypad and then do a set park in The Sky

> > first).This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> > is doing a mount init improperly. I wonder if installing the ASCOM4

> > upgrade has caused some sort of driver swap and The Sky may be using

> > the wrong AP driver. I have to admit that I did do the ASCOM upgrade

> > and Patch to The Sky ver 5 at the same time (don't remember the

> > order). I have never used The Sky to park before this and I had

> > intended to use the ASCOM4 to allow MaxinDL to control the mount thru

> > The Sky and Tpoint. I have not tested this part yet as we still have

> > storms comming through.

> > Jim

> >

> >

> > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> >>

> >> With an AP1200 mount

> >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> > move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> >>

> >> Thank you

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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#11520 Jan 7, 2005

Mark,



Please try this test:



1. Restart your computer.

2. Launch TheSky.

3. Click Telescope | Setup.

4. Select "Astro-Physics GTO German Equatorial Mount" and then click Close.

5. Click Telescope | Link | Establish.

6. Click Telescope | Park.



Does the mount continue to track?



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:35 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Jim,



Right about the time of my upgrade to Ascomv4 this has happened to me too

Bob Denny stated that Ascom has nothing to do with TheSky and Bisque uses

their own drivers for this.





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:31 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

>

> I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> driver is not communicating properly with the mount. the mount seems

> to get some of the command but seems to drop parts of it. I can see

> this when I do a init mount and the LAT/Long has the seconds truncated

> to 00 and the time zone offfset is set incorrectly(I use the get

> location from mount command on the keypad). The result is I can't park

> in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> tracking like it did a slew only. Now if I do the same using Pulse

> Guide it works properly and I can now park in position #3 using The

> Sky (I park in #3 using the keypad and then do a set park in The Sky

> first).This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> is doing a mount init improperly. I wonder if installing the ASCOM4

> upgrade has caused some sort of driver swap and The Sky may be using

> the wrong AP driver. I have to admit that I did do the ASCOM upgrade

> and Patch to The Sky ver 5 at the same time (don't remember the

> order). I have never used The Sky to park before this and I had

> intended to use the ASCOM4 to allow MaxinDL to control the mount thru

> The Sky and Tpoint. I have not tested this part yet as we still have

> storms comming through.

> Jim

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

>>

>> With an AP1200 mount

>> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>

>> Thank you

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Daniel,



Will test this later today ( have not done the bottom exactly like that yet,

will let you know



Is this the first test you would like or the log commands?





Mark





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From: "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:05 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



Please try this test:



1. Restart your computer.

2. Launch TheSky.

3. Click Telescope | Setup.

4. Select "Astro-Physics GTO German Equatorial Mount" and then click Close.

5. Click Telescope | Link | Establish.

6. Click Telescope | Park.



Does the mount continue to track?



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:35 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Jim,



Right about the time of my upgrade to Ascomv4 this has happened to me too

Bob Denny stated that Ascom has nothing to do with TheSky and Bisque uses

their own drivers for this.





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"





----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:31 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

>

> I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> driver is not communicating properly with the mount. the mount seems

> to get some of the command but seems to drop parts of it. I can see

> this when I do a init mount and the LAT/Long has the seconds truncated

> to 00 and the time zone offfset is set incorrectly(I use the get

> location from mount command on the keypad). The result is I can't park

> in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> tracking like it did a slew only. Now if I do the same using Pulse

> Guide it works properly and I can now park in position #3 using The

> Sky (I park in #3 using the keypad and then do a set park in The Sky

> first).This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> is doing a mount init improperly. I wonder if installing the ASCOM4

> upgrade has caused some sort of driver swap and The Sky may be using

> the wrong AP driver. I have to admit that I did do the ASCOM upgrade

> and Patch to The Sky ver 5 at the same time (don't remember the

> order). I have never used The Sky to park before this and I had

> intended to use the ASCOM4 to allow MaxinDL to control the mount thru

> The Sky and Tpoint. I have not tested this part yet as we still have

> storms comming through.

> Jim

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

>>

>> With an AP1200 mount

>> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>

>> Thank you

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#11522 Jan 7, 2005

At 06:51 AM 1/7/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>I am sure now after last nights playing and runs that there is a problem

>with TheSkyv6 and the AP1200mount

>The park command works fine, the tracking is not turned off



Richard Seavey said that TheSky6 and the AP1200 he was using worked fine

with Parking Mark, so it appears as if the problem is somehow related to

what you are doing.

I suggest you work off-line with Richard and go step-by-step through his setup.





Dave







----------------------------

#11523 Jan 7, 2005

You can do both at once.



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

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-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:10 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Daniel,



Will test this later today ( have not done the bottom exactly like that yet,

will let you know



Is this the first test you would like or the log commands?





Mark





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From: "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:05 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



Please try this test:



1. Restart your computer.

2. Launch TheSky.

3. Click Telescope | Setup.

4. Select "Astro-Physics GTO German Equatorial Mount" and then click Close.

5. Click Telescope | Link | Establish.

6. Click Telescope | Park.



Does the mount continue to track?



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:35 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Jim,



Right about the time of my upgrade to Ascomv4 this has happened to me too

Bob Denny stated that Ascom has nothing to do with TheSky and Bisque uses

their own drivers for this.





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"





----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:31 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

>

> I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> driver is not communicating properly with the mount. the mount seems

> to get some of the command but seems to drop parts of it. I can see

> this when I do a init mount and the LAT/Long has the seconds truncated

> to 00 and the time zone offfset is set incorrectly(I use the get

> location from mount command on the keypad). The result is I can't park

> in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> tracking like it did a slew only. Now if I do the same using Pulse

> Guide it works properly and I can now park in position #3 using The

> Sky (I park in #3 using the keypad and then do a set park in The Sky

> first).This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> is doing a mount init improperly. I wonder if installing the ASCOM4

> upgrade has caused some sort of driver swap and The Sky may be using

> the wrong AP driver. I have to admit that I did do the ASCOM upgrade

> and Patch to The Sky ver 5 at the same time (don't remember the

> order). I have never used The Sky to park before this and I had

> intended to use the ASCOM4 to allow MaxinDL to control the mount thru

> The Sky and Tpoint. I have not tested this part yet as we still have

> storms comming through.

> Jim

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

>>

>> With an AP1200 mount

>> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>

>> Thank you

>

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#11526 Jan 7, 2005

At 03:34 PM 1/7/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>Jim,

>

>Right about the time of my upgrade to Ascomv4 this has happened to me too

>Bob Denny stated that Ascom has nothing to do with TheSky and Bisque uses

>their own drivers for this.



Mark: this is a KEY question --

Are you using the TheSky6 built-in driver to run your mount, or are you

using the ASCOM driver for the AstroPhysics mount, because this makes a

crucial difference to trouble-shooting.



Dave



----------------------------

#11527 Jan 7, 2005

Thanks for the insight Daniel.



So it seems that attempting park in position #3 is at the mercy of

small errors during translation from Ra/Dec to Alt/Az (getting park

position) and then back to Ra/Dec from Alt/Az. Being poistion #3 is

toward the Pole we may see large positional Ra deviations. Does The

Sky version 6 also use Alt/Az internally and have the same issues?

Looks like for now I will try position 1 or 2 or manually park using

keypad or PulseGuide. It may be that the Ra movement when reparking

(using The Sky) may be due to round off errors rather than the

tracking and making me think the mount was still tracking. I will

verify the commands and proper parking again. It is probably working

as it is supposed to.



Thanks

Jim



-- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@b...> wrote: >

> * TheSky uses native drivers, and does not rely on third-party

software for telescope control. >

> > I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> > driver is not communicating properly with the mount.

>

> This is not possible. TheSky verifies every command sent to the

mount. If the correct response is not received by TheSky (for commands

the provide a response), an error massage is posted. >

> > The result is I can't park

> > in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> > tracking like it did a slew only.

>

> As I understand, this is because TheSky is converting alt/az

coordinates to ra/dec, then issuing a "Go to RA/Dec" command instead

of sending a "go to alt/az". Ray can clarify if necessary. >

> >This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> > is doing a mount init improperly.

>

> See above.

>

> * Make sure you're using the latest version of TheSky 5 from

www.bisque.com/hotfixes. >

>

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@p...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:31 PM

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> >

> > I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> > driver is not communicating properly with the mount. the mount seems

> > to get some of the command but seems to drop parts of it. I can see

> > this when I do a init mount and the LAT/Long has the seconds truncated

> > to 00 and the time zone offfset is set incorrectly(I use the get

> > location from mount command on the keypad). The result is I can't park

> > in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> > tracking like it did a slew only. Now if I do the same using Pulse

> > Guide it works properly and I can now park in position #3 using The

> > Sky (I park in #3 using the keypad and then do a set park in The Sky

> > first).This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> > is doing a mount init improperly. I wonder if installing the ASCOM4

> > upgrade has caused some sort of driver swap and The Sky may be using

> > the wrong AP driver. I have to admit that I did do the ASCOM upgrade

> > and Patch to The Sky ver 5 at the same time (don't remember the

> > order). I have never used The Sky to park before this and I had

> > intended to use the ASCOM4 to allow MaxinDL to control the mount thru

> > The Sky and Tpoint. I have not tested this part yet as we still have

> > storms comming through.

> > Jim

> >

> >

> > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> >>

> >> With an AP1200 mount

> >> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> > move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?

> >>

> >> Thank you

> >

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#11529 Jan 7, 2005

Dave,



I know that it is not the Ascomv4 upgrade

Already found out that Software Bisque does not use the Ascom platform. So

that is not the issue.



It is either my computer or something in TheSky

I can imagine that a new operating system with SP2 imbedded in it can be the

culprit. Hey I am just trying to go down the list one by one till I find

this problem.



The mount parks perfectly, and then the connection is terminated just like

it should

Just tracking continues. So not sure on where my actual set-up would be the

cause other than operating system, or my cosmic auora ???





Mark

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To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:15 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> At 03:34 PM 1/7/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>

>>Jim,

>>

>>Right about the time of my upgrade to Ascomv4 this has happened to me too

>>Bob Denny stated that Ascom has nothing to do with TheSky and Bisque uses

>>their own drivers for this.

>

> Mark: this is a KEY question --

> Are you using the TheSky6 built-in driver to run your mount, or are you

> using the ASCOM driver for the AstroPhysics mount, because this makes a

> crucial difference to trouble-shooting.

>

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#11530 Jan 7, 2005

At 04:30 PM 1/7/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>Dave,

>

>I know that it is not the Ascomv4 upgrade

>Already found out that Software Bisque does not use the Ascom platform. So

>that is not the issue.



We need to be clear on this ....



In TheSky6, do you use the SB driver for AP, or are you using the

teleapi.dll and using the ASCOM driver?

As Daniel asked in his message:



If you select "Astro-Physics GTO German Equatorial Mount" then TheSky's

native driver is used to control the telescope.

If you select "TeleAPI" then TheSky's will use the third-party driver from

the TeleAPI.dll file to control the telescope.







Dave



----------------------------

#11531 Jan 7, 2005

In the sky

AstroPhysics Driver none other for this right now



Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:55 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> At 04:30 PM 1/7/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>

>>Dave,

>>

>>I know that it is not the Ascomv4 upgrade

>>Already found out that Software Bisque does not use the Ascom platform.

>>So

>>that is not the issue.

>

> We need to be clear on this ....

>

> In TheSky6, do you use the SB driver for AP, or are you using the

> teleapi.dll and using the ASCOM driver?

> As Daniel asked in his message:

>

> If you select "Astro-Physics GTO German Equatorial Mount" then TheSky's

> native driver is used to control the telescope.

> If you select "TeleAPI" then TheSky's will use the third-party driver from

> the TeleAPI.dll file to control the telescope.

>

>

>

> Dave

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#11532 Jan 7, 2005

Alright here goes



1) did the following **Mount did not stop tracking



1. Restart your computer.

2. Launch TheSky.

3. Click Telescope | Setup.

4. Select "Astro-Physics GTO German Equatorial Mount" and then click Close.

5. Click Telescope | Link | Establish.

6. Click Telescope | Park.









2) Did the following and got **no response all the time



After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and the mount is

tracking

at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal". You will see a

dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount " :KA# ". Then

verify

that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion of the motor

shaft.





3) did the following, Serial communication log

** I have no TheSky Astronomy Software in the Stat/Program menu could not do

the serial communication with the telescope as described on the web.











Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:05 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



Please try this test:



1. Restart your computer.

2. Launch TheSky.

3. Click Telescope | Setup.

4. Select "Astro-Physics GTO German Equatorial Mount" and then click Close.

5. Click Telescope | Link | Establish.

6. Click Telescope | Park.



Does the mount continue to track?



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:35 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Jim,



Right about the time of my upgrade to Ascomv4 this has happened to me too

Bob Denny stated that Ascom has nothing to do with TheSky and Bisque uses

their own drivers for this.





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"





----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:31 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

>

> I also have a similar problem using The Sky 5. For some reason the

> driver is not communicating properly with the mount. the mount seems

> to get some of the command but seems to drop parts of it. I can see

> this when I do a init mount and the LAT/Long has the seconds truncated

> to 00 and the time zone offfset is set incorrectly(I use the get

> location from mount command on the keypad). The result is I can't park

> in Park #3 with out a 2-6 hour RA offset happening and the mount keeps

> tracking like it did a slew only. Now if I do the same using Pulse

> Guide it works properly and I can now park in position #3 using The

> Sky (I park in #3 using the keypad and then do a set park in The Sky

> first).This is strange behavior and it acts like The Sky or the driver

> is doing a mount init improperly. I wonder if installing the ASCOM4

> upgrade has caused some sort of driver swap and The Sky may be using

> the wrong AP driver. I have to admit that I did do the ASCOM upgrade

> and Patch to The Sky ver 5 at the same time (don't remember the

> order). I have never used The Sky to park before this and I had

> intended to use the ASCOM4 to allow MaxinDL to control the mount thru

> The Sky and Tpoint. I have not tested this part yet as we still have

> storms comming through.

> Jim

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

>>

>> With an AP1200 mount

>> When I send the signal to park the mount, should the mount still

> move in RA over time? Or should the mount stay put?

>>

>> Thank you

>

>

>

>

>

>

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#11533 Jan 7, 2005

At 05:30 PM 1/7/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>In the sky

>AstroPhysics Driver none other for this right now



OK, because I saw your questions on the ASCOM group and I just wanted to be

sure, especially since Marj also stated that TheSky6 is working correctly

in their testing.

I'll leave you to run Daniel's tests -- getting ready for work here.



Dave



----------------------------

#11534 Jan 7, 2005

Dave,



I asked the question on the Ascom group just to close that portion of this

puzzle

I had to make sure that it was not their issue, and Bob clarified what

drivers did what



Enjoy your night at work





Mark

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From: "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:01 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> At 05:30 PM 1/7/2005, aajohnah wrote:

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>>In the sky

>>AstroPhysics Driver none other for this right now

>

> OK, because I saw your questions on the ASCOM group and I just wanted to

> be

> sure, especially since Marj also stated that TheSky6 is working correctly

> in their testing.

> I'll leave you to run Daniel's tests -- getting ready for work here.

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#11535 Jan 7, 2005

In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

>

> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and the mount is

> tracking

> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal". You will see a

> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount " :KA# ". Then

> verify

> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion of the motor

> shaft.

>



Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that does not mean that

the mount did not receive your command. No Response means that the mount did

not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably stopped and you did

not realize it because you did not take the cover off the motor box and check

the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and this time look at the

motor.



Roland Christen





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----------------------------

#11536 Jan 7, 2005

Correct

Will look



Mark





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Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

>>

>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and the mount is

>> tracking

>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal". You will see

>> a

>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount " :KA# ". Then

>> verify

>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion of the motor

>> shaft.

>>

>

> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that does not mean

> that

> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means that the mount

> did

> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably stopped and you

> did

> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the motor box and

> check

> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and this time look at

> the

> motor.

>

> Roland Christen

>

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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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#11538 Jan 7, 2005

I tried the code :KA#

got the no response and the count stopped tracking



So that would sound like for some reason when my version of TheSky parks the

stop tracking code is not sent?

Or am I wrong with that?



Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: chris1011@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

>>

>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and the mount is

>> tracking

>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal". You will see

>> a

>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount " :KA# ". Then

>> verify

>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion of the motor

>> shaft.

>>

>

> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that does not mean

> that

> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means that the mount

> did

> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably stopped and you

> did

> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the motor box and

> check

> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and this time look at

> the

> motor.

>

> Roland Christen

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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#11539 Jan 8, 2005

Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be specific. I was using v6.0.0.20.



Clear skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc.

11250 Forest Hills Road

Rockford, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

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>-----Original Message-----

>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>I tried the code :KA#

>got the no response and the count stopped tracking

>

>So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

>TheSky parks the

>stop tracking code is not sent?

>Or am I wrong with that?

>

>Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>----- Original Message -----

>From: chris1011@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>>

>> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

>> aajohnah@... writes:

>>

>>

>>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

>>>

>>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and the mount is

>>> tracking

>>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

>You will see

>>> a

>>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

>:KA# ". Then

>>> verify

>>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

>of the motor

>>> shaft.

>>>

>>

>> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

>does not mean

>> that

>> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

>that the mount

>> did

>> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

>stopped and you

>> did

>> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

>motor box and

>> check

>> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

>this time look at

>> the

>> motor.

>>

>> Roland Christen

>>

>>

>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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#11540 Jan 8, 2005

I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

serial cable via com 2

Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft

3.0ghz . 2gig ram



Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per Roland's

instructions

I received the No Response in the box, as Roland had said I would in his

second e-mail

The RA motor on the AP1200 mount stopped.



I disconnected everything

Set up once again

TheSkyv6.0.0.29

Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here though, the

mount goes to the Position all the time)

I then sent the park command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

Park1 position as directed perfectly

HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking



In summation:

Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA motors

Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the mount into the proper

positions BUT the RA motor is still operational the mount still tracks



Is that enough specific information?

Need any other information or suggestions please help here







Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be specific. I was

using v6.0.0.20.



Clear skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc.

11250 Forest Hills Road

Rockford, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

Please include this e-mail with your response.





>-----Original Message-----

>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>I tried the code :KA#

>got the no response and the count stopped tracking

>

>So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

>TheSky parks the

>stop tracking code is not sent?

>Or am I wrong with that?

>

>Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>----- Original Message -----

>From: chris1011@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>>

>> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

>> aajohnah@... writes:

>>

>>

>>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

>>>

>>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and the mount is

>>> tracking

>>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

>You will see

>>> a

>>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

>:KA# ". Then

>>> verify

>>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

>of the motor

>>> shaft.

>>>

>>

>> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

>does not mean

>> that

>> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

>that the mount

>> did

>> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

>stopped and you

>> did

>> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

>motor box and

>> check

>> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

>this time look at

>> the

>> motor.

>>

>> Roland Christen

>>

>>

>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>

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#11542 Jan 8, 2005

In a message dated 1/7/2005 11:17:59 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



>

> I tried the code :KA#

> got the no response and the count stopped tracking

>

>



That is what the mount will do when this code is sent. So, this means that

your computer works, at least for this command, and that the mount works

correctly and has not lost its mind somewhere along the way. What is left then is the

software. Marj checked out your version of TheSky6 here and it also works

properly in the normal Park mode - the mount parks and the motors shut off.

Therefore it cannot be a fault of this version of TheSky6. Perhaps you have a

corrupted version of the software on your computer.



Roland Christen





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----------------------------

#11543 Jan 8, 2005

Mark,



I downloaded v6.0.0.29. The park command works properly and the mount stops tracking. We have established that your version of TheSky6 (v6.0,0.29) parks properly and the mount stops when issued the :KA# command. There is some other variable in this equation.



Clear skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc.

11250 Forest Hills Road

Rockford, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

Please include this e-mail with your response.



>-----Original Message-----

>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:20 AM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

>AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

>serial cable via com 2

>Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft

>3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

>Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per Roland's

>instructions

>I received the No Response in the box, as Roland had said I

>would in his

>second e-mail

>The RA motor on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

>I disconnected everything

>Set up once again

>TheSkyv6.0.0.29

>Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

>Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

>though, the

>mount goes to the Position all the time)

>I then sent the park command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount

>slewed to the

>Park1 position as directed perfectly

>HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

>In summation:

>Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA motors

>Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the mount into

>the proper

>positions BUT the RA motor is still operational the mount still tracks

>

>Is that enough specific information?

>Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

>Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

>distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

>specific. I was

>using v6.0.0.20.

>

>Clear skies,

>Marj Christen

>Astro-Physics, Inc.

>11250 Forest Hills Road

>Rockford, IL 61115

>Phone: 815-282-1513

>Fax: 815-282-9847

>www.astro-physics.com

>Please include this e-mail with your response.

>

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>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

>>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>>I tried the code :KA#

>>got the no response and the count stopped tracking

>>

>>So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

>>TheSky parks the

>>stop tracking code is not sent?

>>Or am I wrong with that?

>>

>>Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

>>

>>

>>Mark

>>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>>N 27. 52' 20"

>>W 082. 28' 57"

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: chris1011@...>

>>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

>>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>>

>>> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

>>> aajohnah@... writes:

>>>

>>>

>>>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

>>>>

>>>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

>the mount is

>>>> tracking

>>>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

>>You will see

>>>> a

>>>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

>>:KA# ". Then

>>>> verify

>>>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

>>of the motor

>>>> shaft.

>>>>

>>>

>>> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

>>does not mean

>>> that

>>> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

>>that the mount

>>> did

>>> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

>>stopped and you

>>> did

>>> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

>>motor box and

>>> check

>>> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

>>this time look at

>>> the

>>> motor.

>>>

>>> Roland Christen

>>>

>>>

>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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#11544 Jan 8, 2005

Mark,



Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?



Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?



Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount from your CCD camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

camera.



Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try using a real serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.



-Ray









> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> serial cable via com 2

> Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

> Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

> I disconnected everything

> Set up once again

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> though, the

> mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> Park1 position as directed perfectly

> HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

> In summation:

> Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> operational the mount still tracks

>

> Is that enough specific information?

> Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

> distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> specific. I was

> using v6.0.0.20.

>

> Clear skies,

> Marj Christen

> Astro-Physics, Inc.

> 11250 Forest Hills Road

> Rockford, IL 61115

> Phone: 815-282-1513

> Fax: 815-282-9847

> www.astro-physics.com

> Please include this e-mail with your response.

>

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> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >I tried the code :KA#

> >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> >

> >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> >TheSky parks the

> >stop tracking code is not sent?

> >Or am I wrong with that?

> >

> >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: chris1011@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >>

> >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> >> aajohnah@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> >>>

> >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> the mount is

> >>> tracking

> >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> >You will see

> >>> a

> >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> >:KA# ". Then

> >>> verify

> >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> >of the motor

> >>> shaft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> >does not mean

> >> that

> >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> >that the mount

> >> did

> >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> >stopped and you

> >> did

> >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> >motor box and

> >> check

> >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> >this time look at

> >> the

> >> motor.

> >>

> >> Roland Christen

> >>

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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#11545 Jan 8, 2005

Thank you,

All that I can do then is uninstall TheSkyv6 do the hot fixes and then see

if that works



Now I guess my next question is for Software Bisque

If the Microsoft XP Pro with the SP2 embedded ( I was told that it may be

slightly different than the normal update) would have anything to do with

blocking the command?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

NO 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



----- Original Message -----

From: chris1011@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:51 AM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/7/2005 11:17:59 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>>

>> I tried the code :KA#

>> got the no response and the count stopped tracking

>>

>>

>

> That is what the mount will do when this code is sent. So, this means that

> your computer works, at least for this command, and that the mount works

> correctly and has not lost its mind somewhere along the way. What is left

> then is the

> software. Marj checked out your version of TheSky6 here and it also works

> properly in the normal Park mode - the mount parks and the motors shut

> off.

> Therefore it cannot be a fault of this version of TheSky6. Perhaps you

> have a

> corrupted version of the software on your computer.

>

> Roland Christen

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

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#11546 Jan 8, 2005

Have the original controller from 3 years ago

only change is the updated firmware to 4.12



Computer has no serial port at all

I did the Pulseguide test on the com port and signal was constantly being

updated if that is what is correct



I will take my other computer out to the Observatory and see if that sends

the correct signal to the mount.

Will have to install TheSkyv6 on it first though





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



----- Original Message -----

From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?



Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?



Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount from your CCD

camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

camera.



Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try using a real

serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.



-Ray











> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> serial cable via com 2

> Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

> Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

> I disconnected everything

> Set up once again

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> though, the

> mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> Park1 position as directed perfectly

> HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

> In summation:

> Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> operational the mount still tracks

>

> Is that enough specific information?

> Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

> distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> specific. I was

> using v6.0.0.20.

>

> Clear skies,

> Marj Christen

> Astro-Physics, Inc.

> 11250 Forest Hills Road

> Rockford, IL 61115

> Phone: 815-282-1513

> Fax: 815-282-9847

> www.astro-physics.com

> Please include this e-mail with your response.

>

>

> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >I tried the code :KA#

> >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> >

> >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> >TheSky parks the

> >stop tracking code is not sent?

> >Or am I wrong with that?

> >

> >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: chris1011@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >>

> >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> >> aajohnah@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> >>>

> >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> the mount is

> >>> tracking

> >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> >You will see

> >>> a

> >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> >:KA# ". Then

> >>> verify

> >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> >of the motor

> >>> shaft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> >does not mean

> >> that

> >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> >that the mount

> >> did

> >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> >stopped and you

> >> did

> >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> >motor box and

> >> check

> >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> >this time look at

> >> the

> >> motor.

> >>

> >> Roland Christen

> >>

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >>

> >>

> >>

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> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> --

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> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.

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#11547 Jan 8, 2005

What about the autoguider cable? Is one connected?



-Ray

> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:11 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> Have the original controller from 3 years ago only change is

> the updated firmware to 4.12

>

> Computer has no serial port at all

> I did the Pulseguide test on the com port and signal was

> constantly being updated if that is what is correct

>

> I will take my other computer out to the Observatory and see

> if that sends the correct signal to the mount.

> Will have to install TheSkyv6 on it first though

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Mark,

>

> Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?

>

> Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?

>

> Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount

> from your CCD

> camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

> disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

> remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

> camera.

>

> Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try

> using a real

> serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.

>

> -Ray

>

>

>

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> > serial cable via com 2

> > Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

> >

> > Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> > Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> > as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> > on the AP1200 mount stopped.

> >

> > I disconnected everything

> > Set up once again

> > TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> > Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> > though, the

> > mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> > command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> > Park1 position as directed perfectly

> > HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

> >

> > In summation:

> > Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> > motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> > mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> > operational the mount still tracks

> >

> > Is that enough specific information?

> > Need any other information or suggestions please help here

> >

> >

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> > Did you set a park position first, then park the mount?

> These are two

> > distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> > specific. I was

> > using v6.0.0.20.

> >

> > Clear skies,

> > Marj Christen

> > Astro-Physics, Inc.

> > 11250 Forest Hills Road

> > Rockford, IL 61115

> > Phone: 815-282-1513

> > Fax: 815-282-9847

> > www.astro-physics.com

> > Please include this e-mail with your response.

> >

> >

> > >-----Original Message-----

> > >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >I tried the code :KA#

> > >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> > >

> > >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> > >TheSky parks the

> > >stop tracking code is not sent?

> > >Or am I wrong with that?

> > >

> > >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> > >

> > >

> > >Mark

> > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > >N 27. 52' 20"

> > >W 082. 28' 57"

> > >----- Original Message -----

> > >From: chris1011@...>

> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > >>

> > >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> > >> aajohnah@... writes:

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> > >>>

> > >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> > the mount is

> > >>> tracking

> > >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> > >You will see

> > >>> a

> > >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> > >:KA# ". Then

> > >>> verify

> > >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> > >of the motor

> > >>> shaft.

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> > >does not mean

> > >> that

> > >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> > >that the mount

> > >> did

> > >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> > >stopped and you

> > >> did

> > >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> > >motor box and

> > >> check

> > >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> > >this time look at

> > >> the

> > >> motor.

> > >>

> > >> Roland Christen

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >>

> > >>

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#11548 Jan 8, 2005

Ray,



YES autoguider cable was connected last night. Since I tried to image last

night . Guider was off though in Maxim



When I have been testing this though the camera was never connected to the

computer or on. Just the mount, computer and TheSky





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



----- Original Message -----

From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:41 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







What about the autoguider cable? Is one connected?



-Ray



> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:11 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> Have the original controller from 3 years ago only change is

> the updated firmware to 4.12

>

> Computer has no serial port at all

> I did the Pulseguide test on the com port and signal was

> constantly being updated if that is what is correct

>

> I will take my other computer out to the Observatory and see

> if that sends the correct signal to the mount.

> Will have to install TheSkyv6 on it first though

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Mark,

>

> Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?

>

> Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?

>

> Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount

> from your CCD

> camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

> disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

> remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

> camera.

>

> Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try

> using a real

> serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.

>

> -Ray

>

>

>

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> > serial cable via com 2

> > Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

> >

> > Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> > Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> > as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> > on the AP1200 mount stopped.

> >

> > I disconnected everything

> > Set up once again

> > TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> > Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> > though, the

> > mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> > command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> > Park1 position as directed perfectly

> > HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

> >

> > In summation:

> > Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> > motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> > mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> > operational the mount still tracks

> >

> > Is that enough specific information?

> > Need any other information or suggestions please help here

> >

> >

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> > Did you set a park position first, then park the mount?

> These are two

> > distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> > specific. I was

> > using v6.0.0.20.

> >

> > Clear skies,

> > Marj Christen

> > Astro-Physics, Inc.

> > 11250 Forest Hills Road

> > Rockford, IL 61115

> > Phone: 815-282-1513

> > Fax: 815-282-9847

> > www.astro-physics.com

> > Please include this e-mail with your response.

> >

> >

> > >-----Original Message-----

> > >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >I tried the code :KA#

> > >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> > >

> > >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> > >TheSky parks the

> > >stop tracking code is not sent?

> > >Or am I wrong with that?

> > >

> > >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> > >

> > >

> > >Mark

> > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > >N 27. 52' 20"

> > >W 082. 28' 57"

> > >----- Original Message -----

> > >From: chris1011@...>

> > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > >>

> > >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> > >> aajohnah@... writes:

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> > >>>

> > >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> > the mount is

> > >>> tracking

> > >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> > >You will see

> > >>> a

> > >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> > >:KA# ". Then

> > >>> verify

> > >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> > >of the motor

> > >>> shaft.

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> > >does not mean

> > >> that

> > >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> > >that the mount

> > >> did

> > >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> > >stopped and you

> > >> did

> > >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> > >motor box and

> > >> check

> > >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> > >this time look at

> > >> the

> > >> motor.

> > >>

> > >> Roland Christen

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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#11549 Jan 8, 2005

Mark,



Before trying the other computer, to eliminate any possibility of the autoguider cable being the cause, please try your test again

with that cable disconnected at the mount.



-Ray

> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:58 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> Ray,

>

> YES autoguider cable was connected last night. Since I tried

> to image last night . Guider was off though in Maxim

>

> When I have been testing this though the camera was never

> connected to the computer or on. Just the mount, computer and TheSky

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:41 PM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> What about the autoguider cable? Is one connected?

>

> -Ray

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:11 AM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > Have the original controller from 3 years ago only change is

> > the updated firmware to 4.12

> >

> > Computer has no serial port at all

> > I did the Pulseguide test on the com port and signal was

> > constantly being updated if that is what is correct

> >

> > I will take my other computer out to the Observatory and see

> > if that sends the correct signal to the mount.

> > Will have to install TheSkyv6 on it first though

> >

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> > Mark,

> >

> > Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?

> >

> > Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?

> >

> > Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount

> > from your CCD

> > camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

> > disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

> > remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

> > camera.

> >

> > Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try

> > using a real

> > serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.

> >

> > -Ray

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > > I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > > AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> > > serial cable via com 2

> > > Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

> > >

> > > Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> > > Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> > > as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> > > on the AP1200 mount stopped.

> > >

> > > I disconnected everything

> > > Set up once again

> > > TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > > Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> > > Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> > > though, the

> > > mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> > > command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> > > Park1 position as directed perfectly

> > > HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

> > >

> > > In summation:

> > > Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> > > motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> > > mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> > > operational the mount still tracks

> > >

> > > Is that enough specific information?

> > > Need any other information or suggestions please help here

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark

> > > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > N 27. 52' 20"

> > > W 082. 28' 57"

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Did you set a park position first, then park the mount?

> > These are two

> > > distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> > > specific. I was

> > > using v6.0.0.20.

> > >

> > > Clear skies,

> > > Marj Christen

> > > Astro-Physics, Inc.

> > > 11250 Forest Hills Road

> > > Rockford, IL 61115

> > > Phone: 815-282-1513

> > > Fax: 815-282-9847

> > > www.astro-physics.com

> > > Please include this e-mail with your response.

> > >

> > >

> > > >-----Original Message-----

> > > >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> > > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >I tried the code :KA#

> > > >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> > > >

> > > >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> > > >TheSky parks the

> > > >stop tracking code is not sent?

> > > >Or am I wrong with that?

> > > >

> > > >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Mark

> > > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > >N 27. 52' 20"

> > > >W 082. 28' 57"

> > > >----- Original Message -----

> > > >From: chris1011@...>

> > > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> > > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> > > >> aajohnah@... writes:

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> > > >>>

> > > >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> > > the mount is

> > > >>> tracking

> > > >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> > > >You will see

> > > >>> a

> > > >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> > > >:KA# ". Then

> > > >>> verify

> > > >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> > > >of the motor

> > > >>> shaft.

> > > >>>

> > > >>

> > > >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> > > >does not mean

> > > >> that

> > > >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> > > >that the mount

> > > >> did

> > > >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> > > >stopped and you

> > > >> did

> > > >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> > > >motor box and

> > > >> check

> > > >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> > > >this time look at

> > > >> the

> > > >> motor.

> > > >>

> > > >> Roland Christen

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > > >>

> > > >>

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> > > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.

> > > >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date:

> > > 12/30/2004

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#11550 Jan 8, 2005

Ray,



Even though the there was no power going to the autoguider camera? NO

control software was launched

You think that is my have affected the tracking?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



Before trying the other computer, to eliminate any possibility of the

autoguider cable being the cause, please try your test again

with that cable disconnected at the mount.



-Ray



> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:58 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> Ray,

>

> YES autoguider cable was connected last night. Since I tried

> to image last night . Guider was off though in Maxim

>

> When I have been testing this though the camera was never

> connected to the computer or on. Just the mount, computer and TheSky

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:41 PM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> What about the autoguider cable? Is one connected?

>

> -Ray

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:11 AM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > Have the original controller from 3 years ago only change is

> > the updated firmware to 4.12

> >

> > Computer has no serial port at all

> > I did the Pulseguide test on the com port and signal was

> > constantly being updated if that is what is correct

> >

> > I will take my other computer out to the Observatory and see

> > if that sends the correct signal to the mount.

> > Will have to install TheSkyv6 on it first though

> >

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> > Mark,

> >

> > Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?

> >

> > Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?

> >

> > Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount

> > from your CCD

> > camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

> > disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

> > remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

> > camera.

> >

> > Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try

> > using a real

> > serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.

> >

> > -Ray

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > > I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > > AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> > > serial cable via com 2

> > > Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

> > >

> > > Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> > > Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> > > as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> > > on the AP1200 mount stopped.

> > >

> > > I disconnected everything

> > > Set up once again

> > > TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > > Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> > > Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> > > though, the

> > > mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> > > command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> > > Park1 position as directed perfectly

> > > HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

> > >

> > > In summation:

> > > Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> > > motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> > > mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> > > operational the mount still tracks

> > >

> > > Is that enough specific information?

> > > Need any other information or suggestions please help here

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark

> > > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > N 27. 52' 20"

> > > W 082. 28' 57"

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Did you set a park position first, then park the mount?

> > These are two

> > > distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> > > specific. I was

> > > using v6.0.0.20.

> > >

> > > Clear skies,

> > > Marj Christen

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> > > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

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> > > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >I tried the code :KA#

> > > >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> > > >

> > > >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> > > >TheSky parks the

> > > >stop tracking code is not sent?

> > > >Or am I wrong with that?

> > > >

> > > >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

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> > > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > >N 27. 52' 20"

> > > >W 082. 28' 57"

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> > > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> > > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> > > >> aajohnah@... writes:

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> > > >>>

> > > >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> > > the mount is

> > > >>> tracking

> > > >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> > > >You will see

> > > >>> a

> > > >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> > > >:KA# ". Then

> > > >>> verify

> > > >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> > > >of the motor

> > > >>> shaft.

> > > >>>

> > > >>

> > > >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> > > >does not mean

> > > >> that

> > > >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> > > >that the mount

> > > >> did

> > > >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> > > >stopped and you

> > > >> did

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> > > >> check

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> > > >> motor.

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> > > >> Roland Christen

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#11551 Jan 8, 2005

Yes. Since your mount is acting unusually you should try to eliminate all possibilities. There are several reasons why a mount would

continue to move and a signal from the autoguider cable is one of them. However unlikely this is the reason, you should try

disconnecting and testing.



-Ray

> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:32 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> Ray,

>

> Even though the there was no power going to the autoguider

> camera? NO control software was launched You think that is

> my have affected the tracking?

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:16 PM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Mark,

>

> Before trying the other computer, to eliminate any possibility of the

> autoguider cable being the cause, please try your test again

> with that cable disconnected at the mount.

>

> -Ray

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:58 AM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > Ray,

> >

> > YES autoguider cable was connected last night. Since I tried

> > to image last night . Guider was off though in Maxim

> >

> > When I have been testing this though the camera was never

> > connected to the computer or on. Just the mount, computer

> and TheSky

> >

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:41 PM

> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> > What about the autoguider cable? Is one connected?

> >

> > -Ray

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:11 AM

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > > Have the original controller from 3 years ago only change is

> > > the updated firmware to 4.12

> > >

> > > Computer has no serial port at all

> > > I did the Pulseguide test on the com port and signal was

> > > constantly being updated if that is what is correct

> > >

> > > I will take my other computer out to the Observatory and see

> > > if that sends the correct signal to the mount.

> > > Will have to install TheSkyv6 on it first though

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark

> > > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > N 27. 52' 20"

> > > W 082. 28' 57"

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark,

> > >

> > > Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?

> > >

> > > Did this problem just start happening? If so, any

> equipment changes?

> > >

> > > Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount

> > > from your CCD

> > > camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

> > > disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending

> a signal. I

> > > remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

> > > camera.

> > >

> > > Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try

> > > using a real

> > > serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.

> > >

> > > -Ray

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > > > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> > > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > > > AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> > > > serial cable via com 2

> > > > Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

> > > >

> > > > Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> > > > Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> > > > as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> > > > on the AP1200 mount stopped.

> > > >

> > > > I disconnected everything

> > > > Set up once again

> > > > TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > > > Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> > > > Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> > > > though, the

> > > > mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> > > > command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> > > > Park1 position as directed perfectly

> > > > HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was

> still tracking

> > > >

> > > > In summation:

> > > > Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> > > > motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> > > > mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> > > > operational the mount still tracks

> > > >

> > > > Is that enough specific information?

> > > > Need any other information or suggestions please help here

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mark

> > > > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > > N 27. 52' 20"

> > > > W 082. 28' 57"

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> > > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> > > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Did you set a park position first, then park the mount?

> > > These are two

> > > > distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> > > > specific. I was

> > > > using v6.0.0.20.

> > > >

> > > > Clear skies,

> > > > Marj Christen

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> > > > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

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> > > > >I tried the code :KA#

> > > > >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> > > > >

> > > > >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> > > > >TheSky parks the

> > > > >stop tracking code is not sent?

> > > > >Or am I wrong with that?

> > > > >

> > > > >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Mark

> > > > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > > >N 27. 52' 20"

> > > > >W 082. 28' 57"

> > > > >----- Original Message -----

> > > > >From: chris1011@...>

> > > > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > > > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> > > > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >>

> > > > >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> > > > >> aajohnah@... writes:

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> > > > the mount is

> > > > >>> tracking

> > > > >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> > > > >You will see

> > > > >>> a

> > > > >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> > > > >:KA# ". Then

> > > > >>> verify

> > > > >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> > > > >of the motor

> > > > >>> shaft.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> > > > >does not mean

> > > > >> that

> > > > >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> > > > >that the mount

> > > > >> did

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> > > > >> check

> > > > >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> > > > >this time look at

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> > > > >> motor.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Roland Christen

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#11552 Jan 8, 2005

Mark,



Probably a long shot, but what would happen if you unplugged the camera autoguider cable after you parked the mount ? Could that position possibly be causing a short in the cable? Like I

said probably a long shot ........







On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:49:59 +0000, ap-gto@yahoogroups.com wrote:



---------------

>

>Message: 14

> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 18:29:22 -0500

> From: "aajohnah" aajohnah@...>

>Subject: Re: Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>Dave,

>

>I asked the question on the Ascom group just to close that portion of this

>puzzle

>I had to make sure that it was not their issue, and Bob clarified what

>drivers did what

>

>Enjoy your night at work

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"





Clear Skies ......



Klaatu Barada Nikto ...



Frank S Barnes III

TwinOaks Observatory

WWW.SkyImager.Com

SBarnes@...







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



----------------------------

#11553 Jan 8, 2005

Will do that now since I am going up there to stop my darks

Will report back





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:37 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Yes. Since your mount is acting unusually you should try to eliminate all

possibilities. There are several reasons why a mount would

continue to move and a signal from the autoguider cable is one of them.

However unlikely this is the reason, you should try

disconnecting and testing.



-Ray



> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:32 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> Ray,

>

> Even though the there was no power going to the autoguider

> camera? NO control software was launched You think that is

> my have affected the tracking?

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:16 PM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Mark,

>

> Before trying the other computer, to eliminate any possibility of the

> autoguider cable being the cause, please try your test again

> with that cable disconnected at the mount.

>

> -Ray

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:58 AM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > Ray,

> >

> > YES autoguider cable was connected last night. Since I tried

> > to image last night . Guider was off though in Maxim

> >

> > When I have been testing this though the camera was never

> > connected to the computer or on. Just the mount, computer

> and TheSky

> >

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:41 PM

> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> > What about the autoguider cable? Is one connected?

> >

> > -Ray

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:11 AM

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > > Have the original controller from 3 years ago only change is

> > > the updated firmware to 4.12

> > >

> > > Computer has no serial port at all

> > > I did the Pulseguide test on the com port and signal was

> > > constantly being updated if that is what is correct

> > >

> > > I will take my other computer out to the Observatory and see

> > > if that sends the correct signal to the mount.

> > > Will have to install TheSkyv6 on it first though

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark

> > > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > N 27. 52' 20"

> > > W 082. 28' 57"

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark,

> > >

> > > Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?

> > >

> > > Did this problem just start happening? If so, any

> equipment changes?

> > >

> > > Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount

> > > from your CCD

> > > camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

> > > disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending

> a signal. I

> > > remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

> > > camera.

> > >

> > > Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try

> > > using a real

> > > serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.

> > >

> > > -Ray

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> > > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > > > AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> > > > serial cable via com 2

> > > > Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

> > > >

> > > > Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> > > > Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> > > > as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> > > > on the AP1200 mount stopped.

> > > >

> > > > I disconnected everything

> > > > Set up once again

> > > > TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> > > > Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> > > > Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> > > > though, the

> > > > mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> > > > command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> > > > Park1 position as directed perfectly

> > > > HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was

> still tracking

> > > >

> > > > In summation:

> > > > Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> > > > motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> > > > mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> > > > operational the mount still tracks

> > > >

> > > > Is that enough specific information?

> > > > Need any other information or suggestions please help here

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mark

> > > > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > > N 27. 52' 20"

> > > > W 082. 28' 57"

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> > > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> > > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Did you set a park position first, then park the mount?

> > > These are two

> > > > distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> > > > specific. I was

> > > > using v6.0.0.20.

> > > >

> > > > Clear skies,

> > > > Marj Christen

> > > > Astro-Physics, Inc.

> > > > 11250 Forest Hills Road

> > > > Rockford, IL 61115

> > > > Phone: 815-282-1513

> > > > Fax: 815-282-9847

> > > > www.astro-physics.com

> > > > Please include this e-mail with your response.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >-----Original Message-----

> > > > >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> > > > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> > > > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > > > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >I tried the code :KA#

> > > > >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> > > > >

> > > > >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> > > > >TheSky parks the

> > > > >stop tracking code is not sent?

> > > > >Or am I wrong with that?

> > > > >

> > > > >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Mark

> > > > >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > > >N 27. 52' 20"

> > > > >W 082. 28' 57"

> > > > >----- Original Message -----

> > > > >From: chris1011@...>

> > > > >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > > > >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> > > > >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >>

> > > > >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> > > > >> aajohnah@... writes:

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> > > > the mount is

> > > > >>> tracking

> > > > >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> > > > >You will see

> > > > >>> a

> > > > >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> > > > >:KA# ". Then

> > > > >>> verify

> > > > >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> > > > >of the motor

> > > > >>> shaft.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> > > > >does not mean

> > > > >> that

> > > > >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> > > > >that the mount

> > > > >> did

> > > > >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> > > > >stopped and you

> > > > >> did

> > > > >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> > > > >motor box and

> > > > >> check

> > > > >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> > > > >this time look at

> > > > >> the

> > > > >> motor.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Roland Christen

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#11554 Jan 8, 2005

Going to test right now and have that cable unplugged all together



Thank you Frank





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Frank S Barnes III" SBarnes@...>

To: "ap-gtoyahoogroupscom" ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:38 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



Probably a long shot, but what would happen if you unplugged the camera

autoguider cable after you parked the mount ? Could that position possibly

be causing a short in the cable? Like I

said probably a long shot ........









On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:49:59 +0000, ap-gto@yahoogroups.com wrote:



---------------

>

>Message: 14

> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 18:29:22 -0500

> From: "aajohnah" aajohnah@...>

>Subject: Re: Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>Dave,

>

>I asked the question on the Ascom group just to close that portion of this

>puzzle

>I had to make sure that it was not their issue, and Bob clarified what

>drivers did what

>

>Enjoy your night at work

>

>

>Mark

>www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>N 27. 52' 20"

>W 082. 28' 57"





Clear Skies ......



Klaatu Barada Nikto ...



Frank S Barnes III

TwinOaks Observatory

WWW.SkyImager.Com

SBarnes@...







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#11555 Jan 8, 2005

The earlier problem was me Ray and that turned out to be normal behavior for

the ST237 relays when the camera is not powered but the mount still has

power.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Mark,



Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?



Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?



Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount from your CCD

camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

camera.



Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try using a real

serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.



-Ray









> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> serial cable via com 2

> Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

> Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

> I disconnected everything

> Set up once again

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> though, the

> mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> Park1 position as directed perfectly

> HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

> In summation:

> Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> operational the mount still tracks

>

> Is that enough specific information?

> Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

> distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> specific. I was

> using v6.0.0.20.

>

> Clear skies,

> Marj Christen

> Astro-Physics, Inc.

> 11250 Forest Hills Road

> Rockford, IL 61115

> Phone: 815-282-1513

> Fax: 815-282-9847

> www.astro-physics.com

> Please include this e-mail with your response.

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> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >I tried the code :KA#

> >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> >

> >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> >TheSky parks the

> >stop tracking code is not sent?

> >Or am I wrong with that?

> >

> >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: chris1011@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >>

> >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> >> aajohnah@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> >>>

> >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> the mount is

> >>> tracking

> >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> >You will see

> >>> a

> >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> >:KA# ". Then

> >>> verify

> >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> >of the motor

> >>> shaft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> >does not mean

> >> that

> >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> >that the mount

> >> did

> >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> >stopped and you

> >> did

> >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> >motor box and

> >> check

> >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> >this time look at

> >> the

> >> motor.

> >>

> >> Roland Christen

> >>

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >>

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Steve,



Please relay that to me privately

I am using a 237 too, so would like to know what it does



Thank you





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:53 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







The earlier problem was me Ray and that turned out to be normal behavior for

the ST237 relays when the camera is not powered but the mount still has

power.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Mark,



Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?



Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?



Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount from your CCD

camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

camera.



Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try using a real

serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.



-Ray











> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> serial cable via com 2

> Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

> Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

> I disconnected everything

> Set up once again

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> though, the

> mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> Park1 position as directed perfectly

> HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

> In summation:

> Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> operational the mount still tracks

>

> Is that enough specific information?

> Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

> distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> specific. I was

> using v6.0.0.20.

>

> Clear skies,

> Marj Christen

> Astro-Physics, Inc.

> 11250 Forest Hills Road

> Rockford, IL 61115

> Phone: 815-282-1513

> Fax: 815-282-9847

> www.astro-physics.com

> Please include this e-mail with your response.

>

>

> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >I tried the code :KA#

> >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> >

> >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> >TheSky parks the

> >stop tracking code is not sent?

> >Or am I wrong with that?

> >

> >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: chris1011@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >>

> >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> >> aajohnah@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> >>>

> >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> the mount is

> >>> tracking

> >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> >You will see

> >>> a

> >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> >:KA# ". Then

> >>> verify

> >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> >of the motor

> >>> shaft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> >does not mean

> >> that

> >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> >that the mount

> >> did

> >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> >stopped and you

> >> did

> >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> >motor box and

> >> check

> >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> >this time look at

> >> the

> >> motor.

> >>

> >> Roland Christen

> >>

> >>

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#11557 Jan 8, 2005

Mark,



If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is plugged

into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects the

RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider lead

is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed contacts,

thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you were

using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:57 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Steve,



Please relay that to me privately

I am using a 237 too, so would like to know what it does



Thank you





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:53 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







The earlier problem was me Ray and that turned out to be normal behavior for

the ST237 relays when the camera is not powered but the mount still has

power.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Mark,



Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?



Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?



Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount from your CCD

camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

camera.



Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try using a real

serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.



-Ray











> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> serial cable via com 2

> Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

> Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

> I disconnected everything

> Set up once again

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> though, the

> mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> Park1 position as directed perfectly

> HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

> In summation:

> Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> operational the mount still tracks

>

> Is that enough specific information?

> Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

> distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> specific. I was

> using v6.0.0.20.

>

> Clear skies,

> Marj Christen

> Astro-Physics, Inc.

> 11250 Forest Hills Road

> Rockford, IL 61115

> Phone: 815-282-1513

> Fax: 815-282-9847

> www.astro-physics.com

> Please include this e-mail with your response.

>

>

> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >I tried the code :KA#

> >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> >

> >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> >TheSky parks the

> >stop tracking code is not sent?

> >Or am I wrong with that?

> >

> >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: chris1011@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >>

> >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> >> aajohnah@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> >>>

> >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> the mount is

> >>> tracking

> >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> >You will see

> >>> a

> >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> >:KA# ". Then

> >>> verify

> >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> >of the motor

> >>> shaft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> >does not mean

> >> that

> >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> >that the mount

> >> did

> >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> >stopped and you

> >> did

> >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> >motor box and

> >> check

> >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> >this time look at

> >> the

> >> motor.

> >>

> >> Roland Christen

> >>

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >>

> >>

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#11558 Jan 8, 2005

Steve,



So even if the power to the 237 is off?

Or power on but guider turned off?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:04 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is plugged

into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects the

RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider lead

is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed contacts,

thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you were

using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:57 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Steve,



Please relay that to me privately

I am using a 237 too, so would like to know what it does



Thank you





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:53 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







The earlier problem was me Ray and that turned out to be normal behavior for

the ST237 relays when the camera is not powered but the mount still has

power.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Mark,



Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?



Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?



Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount from your CCD

camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

camera.



Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try using a real

serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.



-Ray











> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> serial cable via com 2

> Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

> Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

> I disconnected everything

> Set up once again

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> though, the

> mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> Park1 position as directed perfectly

> HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

> In summation:

> Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> operational the mount still tracks

>

> Is that enough specific information?

> Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

> distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> specific. I was

> using v6.0.0.20.

>

> Clear skies,

> Marj Christen

> Astro-Physics, Inc.

> 11250 Forest Hills Road

> Rockford, IL 61115

> Phone: 815-282-1513

> Fax: 815-282-9847

> www.astro-physics.com

> Please include this e-mail with your response.

>

>

> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >I tried the code :KA#

> >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> >

> >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> >TheSky parks the

> >stop tracking code is not sent?

> >Or am I wrong with that?

> >

> >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: chris1011@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >>

> >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> >> aajohnah@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> >>>

> >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> the mount is

> >>> tracking

> >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> >You will see

> >>> a

> >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> >:KA# ". Then

> >>> verify

> >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> >of the motor

> >>> shaft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> >does not mean

> >> that

> >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> >that the mount

> >> did

> >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> >stopped and you

> >> did

> >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> >motor box and

> >> check

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#11559 Jan 8, 2005

If no power is applied to the camera but the guide cable is plugged into the

mount and the mount is still powered. To stop this process you would either

keep power on the camera after the mount is parked or unplug the guider

cable from the mount before turning off power to the ST237 camera. As far as

the software is concerned, it doesn't make any difference if the camera is

connected via software as a guider or not. The key is the cable being

plugged into the mount from the ST237 when the power is off to the ST237.

Make any sense?



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:07 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Steve,



So even if the power to the 237 is off?

Or power on but guider turned off?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:04 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is plugged

into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects the

RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider lead

is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed contacts,

thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you were

using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.



Steve







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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:57 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Steve,



Please relay that to me privately

I am using a 237 too, so would like to know what it does



Thank you





Mark

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N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:53 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







The earlier problem was me Ray and that turned out to be normal behavior for

the ST237 relays when the camera is not powered but the mount still has

power.



Steve







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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Mark,



Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?



Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?



Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount from your CCD

camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

camera.



Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try using a real

serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.



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> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> serial cable via com 2

> Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

> Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

> I disconnected everything

> Set up once again

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> though, the

> mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> Park1 position as directed perfectly

> HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

> In summation:

> Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> operational the mount still tracks

>

> Is that enough specific information?

> Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

> distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> specific. I was

> using v6.0.0.20.

>

> Clear skies,

> Marj Christen

> Astro-Physics, Inc.

> 11250 Forest Hills Road

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> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >I tried the code :KA#

> >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> >

> >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> >TheSky parks the

> >stop tracking code is not sent?

> >Or am I wrong with that?

> >

> >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

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> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

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> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

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> >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> >> aajohnah@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> >>>

> >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> the mount is

> >>> tracking

> >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> >You will see

> >>> a

> >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> >:KA# ". Then

> >>> verify

> >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> >of the motor

> >>> shaft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> >does not mean

> >> that

> >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> >that the mount

> >> did

> >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> >stopped and you

> >> did

> >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> >motor box and

> >> check

> >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> >this time look at

> >> the

> >> motor.

> >>

> >> Roland Christen

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#11560 Jan 8, 2005

So as long as the guider is plugged into the guider port of the mount and

power is to the mount the 237 will send signals if it is actually on or not?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:15 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







If no power is applied to the camera but the guide cable is plugged into the

mount and the mount is still powered. To stop this process you would either

keep power on the camera after the mount is parked or unplug the guider

cable from the mount before turning off power to the ST237 camera. As far as

the software is concerned, it doesn't make any difference if the camera is

connected via software as a guider or not. The key is the cable being

plugged into the mount from the ST237 when the power is off to the ST237.

Make any sense?



Steve







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From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:07 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Steve,



So even if the power to the 237 is off?

Or power on but guider turned off?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:04 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is plugged

into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects the

RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider lead

is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed contacts,

thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you were

using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:57 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Steve,



Please relay that to me privately

I am using a 237 too, so would like to know what it does



Thank you





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:53 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







The earlier problem was me Ray and that turned out to be normal behavior for

the ST237 relays when the camera is not powered but the mount still has

power.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Mark,



Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?



Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?



Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount from your CCD

camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

camera.



Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try using a real

serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.



-Ray











> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> serial cable via com 2

> Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

> Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

> I disconnected everything

> Set up once again

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> though, the

> mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> Park1 position as directed perfectly

> HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

> In summation:

> Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> operational the mount still tracks

>

> Is that enough specific information?

> Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

> distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> specific. I was

> using v6.0.0.20.

>

> Clear skies,

> Marj Christen

> Astro-Physics, Inc.

> 11250 Forest Hills Road

> Rockford, IL 61115

> Phone: 815-282-1513

> Fax: 815-282-9847

> www.astro-physics.com

> Please include this e-mail with your response.

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> >From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >I tried the code :KA#

> >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> >

> >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> >TheSky parks the

> >stop tracking code is not sent?

> >Or am I wrong with that?

> >

> >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

> >W 082. 28' 57"

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: chris1011@...>

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >>

> >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> >> aajohnah@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> >>>

> >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> the mount is

> >>> tracking

> >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> >You will see

> >>> a

> >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> >:KA# ". Then

> >>> verify

> >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> >of the motor

> >>> shaft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> >does not mean

> >> that

> >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> >that the mount

> >> did

> >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> >stopped and you

> >> did

> >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> >motor box and

> >> check

> >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> >this time look at

> >> the

> >> motor.

> >>

> >> Roland Christen

> >>

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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#11561 Jan 8, 2005

In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:06:45 PM Central Standard Time,

sreilly@... writes:



> If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is plugged

> into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects the

> RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider lead

> is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed contacts,

> thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you were

> using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

>

> Steve

>



Steve, Ray, I think you guys have solved the mystery.



Roland Christen





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#11562 Jan 8, 2005

Heck yes

A week of frustration, and seconds of enlightenment

g>



I am happy but now opens up a whole new can of worms



Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



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From: chris1011@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:20 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:06:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> sreilly@... writes:

>

>

>> If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is

>> plugged

>> into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects

>> the

>> RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider

>> lead

>> is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed

>> contacts,

>> thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you were

>> using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

>>

>> Steve

>>

>

> Steve, Ray, I think you guys have solved the mystery.

>

> Roland Christen

>









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#11563 Jan 8, 2005

In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:08:08 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> So even if the power to the 237 is off?

> Or power on but guider turned off?

>



SBIG cameras have internal switches that control the motion of the mount

through the autoguider ports. The state of the switches is important. If the

switch is normally on, shorting the input to ground, then the mount has no choice

but to accept this as a command to move. The mount does not know that the

camera is not being powered. All it knows is that it is getting a signal from the

camera to move, and it will do so as long as that signal appears at the

autoguider terminals.



Roland Christen





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----------------------------

#11564 Jan 8, 2005

Essentially yes. Suffice it to say that if the ST237 camera's guide cable is

connected between the mount and the camera box without the ST237 being

powered, anytime power is on the mount, the mount will drive the RA axis.

There isn't any signal actually being sent when the ST237 isn't powered but

the relays are normally closed and this acts like a continuous signal to the

mount. When you power the camera, the relays are opened and only close

sending a signal when the camera is being used via software as a guider and

sends corrective signals to move the mount.



Bottom line, if you turn off the power to the camera (ST237)first unplug the

guide cable to the mount and all will be fine. If you leave the guider cable

connected and turn off the power to the camera and power is still connected

to the mount, it's gonna drive the RA axis. Remove the guider cable first.





Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:17 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





So as long as the guider is plugged into the guider port of the mount and

power is to the mount the 237 will send signals if it is actually on or not?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:15 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







If no power is applied to the camera but the guide cable is plugged into the

mount and the mount is still powered. To stop this process you would either

keep power on the camera after the mount is parked or unplug the guider

cable from the mount before turning off power to the ST237 camera. As far as

the software is concerned, it doesn't make any difference if the camera is

connected via software as a guider or not. The key is the cable being

plugged into the mount from the ST237 when the power is off to the ST237.

Make any sense?



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:07 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Steve,



So even if the power to the 237 is off?

Or power on but guider turned off?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:04 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is plugged

into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects the

RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider lead

is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed contacts,

thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you were

using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.



Steve







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From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:57 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Steve,



Please relay that to me privately

I am using a 237 too, so would like to know what it does



Thank you





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:53 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







The earlier problem was me Ray and that turned out to be normal behavior for

the ST237 relays when the camera is not powered but the mount still has

power.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Mark,



Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?



Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?



Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount from your CCD

camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

camera.



Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try using a real

serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.



-Ray











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> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> serial cable via com 2

> Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

> Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

> I disconnected everything

> Set up once again

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> though, the

> mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> Park1 position as directed perfectly

> HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

> In summation:

> Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> operational the mount still tracks

>

> Is that enough specific information?

> Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

> distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> specific. I was

> using v6.0.0.20.

>

> Clear skies,

> Marj Christen

> Astro-Physics, Inc.

> 11250 Forest Hills Road

> Rockford, IL 61115

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> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:16 PM

> >To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >I tried the code :KA#

> >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> >

> >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> >TheSky parks the

> >stop tracking code is not sent?

> >Or am I wrong with that?

> >

> >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> >N 27. 52' 20"

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> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:09 PM

> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >>

> >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> >> aajohnah@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> >>>

> >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> the mount is

> >>> tracking

> >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> >You will see

> >>> a

> >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> >:KA# ". Then

> >>> verify

> >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> >of the motor

> >>> shaft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> >does not mean

> >> that

> >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> >that the mount

> >> did

> >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> >stopped and you

> >> did

> >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> >motor box and

> >> check

> >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> >this time look at

> >> the

> >> motor.

> >>

> >> Roland Christen

> >>

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#11565 Jan 8, 2005

Mark,



What are you using as far as hardware/software and what are you trying to

accomplish? I get the feeling you want to use this remotely and now am

wondering how to break the connection to the guider without having to be

there.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:23 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Heck yes

A week of frustration, and seconds of enlightenment

g>



I am happy but now opens up a whole new can of worms



Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



----- Original Message -----

From: chris1011@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:20 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:06:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> sreilly@... writes:

>

>

>> If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is

>> plugged

>> into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects

>> the

>> RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider

>> lead

>> is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed

>> contacts,

>> thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you were

>> using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

>>

>> Steve

>>

>

> Steve, Ray, I think you guys have solved the mystery.

>

> Roland Christen

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#11566 Jan 8, 2005

Well, I just double checked my assumptions, and I was wrong about the motor

running when the mount is parked and there is an input signal to the mount. If

the mount is parked and the command :KA# is sent, the motors are completely

de-energized and will not turn, even if there is a signal at the autoguider

inputs. So therefore the problem of the mount still running after the Park command

means that the command :KA# is not being sent to the mount. The fact that

when you do send this command to the mount and the motors stop, even though the

camera cable is still connected, means that the camera cable and camera relays

are not the problem. It goes back to either corrupted software or other

computer problem.



Roland Christen





In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:24:01 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> Heck yes

> A week of frustration, and seconds of enlightenment

> g>

>

> I am happy but now opens up a whole new can of worms

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: chris1011@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:20 PM

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:06:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> > sreilly@... writes:

> >

> >

> >> If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is

> >> plugged

> >> into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects

> >> the

> >> RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider

> >> lead

> >> is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed

> >> contacts,

> >> thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you were

> >> using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

> >>

> >> Steve

> >>

> >

> > Steve, Ray, I think you guys have solved the mystery.

> >

> > Roland Christen

> >

>







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#11568 Jan 8, 2005

Sounds like I need to hire an Observatory "boy" now to unplug the guider

cable at the end of the image session before TheSky sends the Park command

to the mount

g>



Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:27 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Essentially yes. Suffice it to say that if the ST237 camera's guide cable is

connected between the mount and the camera box without the ST237 being

powered, anytime power is on the mount, the mount will drive the RA axis.

There isn't any signal actually being sent when the ST237 isn't powered but

the relays are normally closed and this acts like a continuous signal to the

mount. When you power the camera, the relays are opened and only close

sending a signal when the camera is being used via software as a guider and

sends corrective signals to move the mount.



Bottom line, if you turn off the power to the camera (ST237)first unplug the

guide cable to the mount and all will be fine. If you leave the guider cable

connected and turn off the power to the camera and power is still connected

to the mount, it's gonna drive the RA axis. Remove the guider cable first.





Steve







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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:17 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





So as long as the guider is plugged into the guider port of the mount and

power is to the mount the 237 will send signals if it is actually on or not?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:15 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







If no power is applied to the camera but the guide cable is plugged into the

mount and the mount is still powered. To stop this process you would either

keep power on the camera after the mount is parked or unplug the guider

cable from the mount before turning off power to the ST237 camera. As far as

the software is concerned, it doesn't make any difference if the camera is

connected via software as a guider or not. The key is the cable being

plugged into the mount from the ST237 when the power is off to the ST237.

Make any sense?



Steve







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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:07 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Steve,



So even if the power to the 237 is off?

Or power on but guider turned off?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:04 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Mark,



If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is plugged

into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects the

RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider lead

is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed contacts,

thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you were

using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.



Steve







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From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:57 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Steve,



Please relay that to me privately

I am using a 237 too, so would like to know what it does



Thank you





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:53 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







The earlier problem was me Ray and that turned out to be normal behavior for

the ST237 relays when the camera is not powered but the mount still has

power.



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:05 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Mark,



Do you have the GTOCP2 controller with Rev D firmware?



Did this problem just start happening? If so, any equipment changes?



Also, do you have an autoguider cable connected to the mount from your CCD

camera? If so, try your park test again with that cable

disconnected. It could be that the CCD camera is sending a signal. I

remember seeing someone report a problem like this with their

camera.



Also, if you are using an USB to serial port adapter, try using a real

serial port instead, even if it requires a different PC.



-Ray











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> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> I was using TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> AP 1200 mount firmware 4.12

> serial cable via com 2

> Windows XP pro SP2 embedded from Microsoft 3.0ghz . 2gig ram

>

> Sent the :KA# code to the mount via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 as per

> Roland's instructions I received the No Response in the box,

> as Roland had said I would in his second e-mail The RA motor

> on the AP1200 mount stopped.

>

> I disconnected everything

> Set up once again

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29

> Ap1200 mount vis serial port, com port 2

> Park position was set ( Park position is NOT the issue here

> though, the

> mount goes to the Position all the time) I then sent the park

> command via TheSkyv6.0.0.29 the mount slewed to the

> Park1 position as directed perfectly

> HOWEVER the RA motors were still working, mount was still tracking

>

> In summation:

> Sending the :KA# command via Roland suggestion stopped the RA

> motors Parking the mount via TheSky park command sends the

> mount into the proper positions BUT the RA motor is still

> operational the mount still tracks

>

> Is that enough specific information?

> Need any other information or suggestions please help here

>

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marjorie Christen" marj@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:09 AM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Did you set a park position first, then park the mount? These are two

> distinct steps. What version of TheSky are you using? Be

> specific. I was

> using v6.0.0.20.

>

> Clear skies,

> Marj Christen

> Astro-Physics, Inc.

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> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >I tried the code :KA#

> >got the no response and the count stopped tracking

> >

> >So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

> >TheSky parks the

> >stop tracking code is not sent?

> >Or am I wrong with that?

> >

> >Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

> >

> >

> >Mark

> >www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

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> >Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >>

> >> In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:14:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> >> aajohnah@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> 2) Did the following and got **no response all the time

> >>>

> >>> After you have linked to the telescope with TheSky6 and

> the mount is

> >>> tracking

> >>> at sidereal rate, go to "Telescope", "Options" "Terminal".

> >You will see

> >>> a

> >>> dialog box. type in the 4 characters to stop the mount "

> >:KA# ". Then

> >>> verify

> >>> that the mount RA motor has stopped by checking the motion

> >of the motor

> >>> shaft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> Yes, that is correct. You will get "No Response" but that

> >does not mean

> >> that

> >> the mount did not receive your command. No Response means

> >that the mount

> >> did

> >> not send any commands back to TheSky6. The motor probably

> >stopped and you

> >> did

> >> not realize it because you did not take the cover off the

> >motor box and

> >> check

> >> the rotation of the motor shaft. Try this test again and

> >this time look at

> >> the

> >> motor.

> >>

> >> Roland Christen

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#11569 Jan 8, 2005

Not sure I follow Roland. I had this problem back sometime ago and called

SBIG because I thought the camera's relays had gone bad. After talking with

Alan Holmes, he told me that the guider relays worked the opposite of the

other camera and that unplugging the cable was would resolve the problem.

I've done that ever since and never had a problem. All I know 100% is if the

mount is powered, parked and the cable is in the guider port with the ST237

off, it's gonna move and will until I unplug the guider cable or turn the

power back on the ST237. Of course, I could kill the power supply to the

mount before turning off the ST237.



Regards,



Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: chris1011@... [mailto:chris1011@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:53 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Well, I just double checked my assumptions, and I was wrong about the motor

running when the mount is parked and there is an input signal to the mount.

If

the mount is parked and the command :KA# is sent, the motors are completely

de-energized and will not turn, even if there is a signal at the autoguider

inputs. So therefore the problem of the mount still running after the Park

command

means that the command :KA# is not being sent to the mount. The fact that

when you do send this command to the mount and the motors stop, even though

the

camera cable is still connected, means that the camera cable and camera

relays

are not the problem. It goes back to either corrupted software or other

computer problem.



Roland Christen





In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:24:01 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> Heck yes

> A week of frustration, and seconds of enlightenment

> g>

>

> I am happy but now opens up a whole new can of worms

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: chris1011@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:20 PM

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:06:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> > sreilly@... writes:

> >

> >

> >> If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is

> >> plugged

> >> into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects

> >> the

> >> RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider



> >> lead

> >> is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed

> >> contacts,

> >> thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you

were > >> using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

> >>

> >> Steve

> >>

> >

> > Steve, Ray, I think you guys have solved the mystery.

> >

> > Roland Christen

> >

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#11570 Jan 8, 2005

So is it that Steve and I now have the same issue? but it is not the 237

actually still sending signals to the mount, but that TheSky is not sending

the proper :KA# signal to the mount?

Or of course a computer problem?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: chris1011@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:52 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Well, I just double checked my assumptions, and I was wrong about the motor

running when the mount is parked and there is an input signal to the mount.

If

the mount is parked and the command :KA# is sent, the motors are completely

de-energized and will not turn, even if there is a signal at the autoguider

inputs. So therefore the problem of the mount still running after the Park

command

means that the command :KA# is not being sent to the mount. The fact that

when you do send this command to the mount and the motors stop, even though

the

camera cable is still connected, means that the camera cable and camera

relays

are not the problem. It goes back to either corrupted software or other

computer problem.



Roland Christen





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> Heck yes

> A week of frustration, and seconds of enlightenment

> g>

>

> I am happy but now opens up a whole new can of worms

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: chris1011@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:20 PM

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:06:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> > sreilly@... writes:

> >

> >

> >> If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is

> >> plugged

> >> into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects

> >> the

> >> RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider

> >> lead

> >> is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed

> >> contacts,

> >> thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you

> >> were

> >> using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

> >>

> >> Steve

> >>

> >

> > Steve, Ray, I think you guys have solved the mystery.

> >

> > Roland Christen

> >

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#11571 Jan 8, 2005

Mark,



If you don't have a serial port sniffer, I can come over with mine.

It'll tell you 100% if the mount is getting the :KA#...



Chris

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> So is it that Steve and I now have the same issue? but it is not the

237

> actually still sending signals to the mount, but that TheSky is not

sending

> the proper :KA# signal to the mount?

> Or of course a computer problem?

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: chris1011@a...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:52 PM

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Well, I just double checked my assumptions, and I was wrong about

the motor

> running when the mount is parked and there is an input signal to the

mount.

> If

> the mount is parked and the command :KA# is sent, the motors are

completely

> de-energized and will not turn, even if there is a signal at the

autoguider

> inputs. So therefore the problem of the mount still running after

the Park

> command

> means that the command :KA# is not being sent to the mount. The fact

that

> when you do send this command to the mount and the motors stop, even

though

> the

> camera cable is still connected, means that the camera cable and camera

> relays

> are not the problem. It goes back to either corrupted software or other

> computer problem.

>

> Roland Christen

>

>

> In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:24:01 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@t... writes:

>

>

> > Heck yes

> > A week of frustration, and seconds of enlightenment

> > g>

> >

> > I am happy but now opens up a whole new can of worms

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: chris1011@a...>

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:20 PM

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:06:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> > > sreilly@d... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > >> If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is

> > >> plugged

> > >> into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only

affects

> > >> the

> > >> RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until

the guider

> > >> lead

> > >> is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed

> > >> contacts,

> > >> thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had

known you

> > >> were

> > >> using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

> > >>

> > >> Steve

> > >>

> > >

> > > Steve, Ray, I think you guys have solved the mystery.

> > >

> > > Roland Christen

> > >

> >

>

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#11572 Jan 8, 2005

In a message dated 1/8/2005 2:04:00 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> Sounds like I need to hire an Observatory "boy" now to unplug the guider

> cable at the end of the image session before TheSky sends the Park command

> to the mount

>



No, not needed. The motors won't move. Just send the KA command if your

software is recalcitrant.



Roland Christen



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#11573 Jan 8, 2005

In a message dated 1/8/2005 2:05:58 PM Central Standard Time,

sreilly@... writes:



> All I know 100% is if the

> mount is powered, parked and the cable is in the guider port with the ST237

> off, it's gonna move



No, it will not. Mark already confirmed that the mount will stop moving when

he sends the park command manually.



Roland Christen





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#11574 Jan 8, 2005

Chris,



Thank you

Yesterday when I sent the :KA# to the mount manually as per Roland's

suggestion the RA motor did stop, So I would conclude that the mount was

sent the proper code when done manually



So you mean when TheSky sends it

More than likely that would tell the story wouldn't it?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris Curran" ccurran@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 3:12 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park









Mark,



If you don't have a serial port sniffer, I can come over with mine.

It'll tell you 100% if the mount is getting the :KA#...



Chris



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> So is it that Steve and I now have the same issue? but it is not the

237

> actually still sending signals to the mount, but that TheSky is not

sending

> the proper :KA# signal to the mount?

> Or of course a computer problem?

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: chris1011@a...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:52 PM

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Well, I just double checked my assumptions, and I was wrong about

the motor

> running when the mount is parked and there is an input signal to the

mount.

> If

> the mount is parked and the command :KA# is sent, the motors are

completely

> de-energized and will not turn, even if there is a signal at the

autoguider

> inputs. So therefore the problem of the mount still running after

the Park

> command

> means that the command :KA# is not being sent to the mount. The fact

that

> when you do send this command to the mount and the motors stop, even

though

> the

> camera cable is still connected, means that the camera cable and camera

> relays

> are not the problem. It goes back to either corrupted software or other

> computer problem.

>

> Roland Christen

>

>

> In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:24:01 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@t... writes:

>

>

> > Heck yes

> > A week of frustration, and seconds of enlightenment

> > g>

> >

> > I am happy but now opens up a whole new can of worms

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: chris1011@a...>

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:20 PM

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:06:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> > > sreilly@d... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > >> If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is

> > >> plugged

> > >> into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only

affects

> > >> the

> > >> RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until

the guider

> > >> lead

> > >> is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed

> > >> contacts,

> > >> thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had

known you

> > >> were

> > >> using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

> > >>

> > >> Steve

> > >>

> > >

> > > Steve, Ray, I think you guys have solved the mystery.

> > >

> > > Roland Christen

> > >

> >

>

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#11575 Jan 8, 2005

You can eliminate the computer and TheSky. To test this, plug your guider

cable in and turn the power on the camera. Turn the mount power on. Put the

mount anywhere you want but preferably somewhere you can see the RA drive

or use the finder scope to see motion. Turn the ST237 power off keeping the

guider cable plugged in. Watch the motion, turn the camera back on, watch

the motion stop. This, by the way is not at sidereal speed but more like 12

or 64 and may have to do with the speed selected on the hand controller for

button speed. This has absolutely nothing to do with the computer or TheSky

version anything.







Steve







-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 3:06 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





So is it that Steve and I now have the same issue? but it is not the 237

actually still sending signals to the mount, but that TheSky is not sending

the proper :KA# signal to the mount?

Or of course a computer problem?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: chris1011@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:52 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Well, I just double checked my assumptions, and I was wrong about the motor

running when the mount is parked and there is an input signal to the mount.

If

the mount is parked and the command :KA# is sent, the motors are completely

de-energized and will not turn, even if there is a signal at the autoguider

inputs. So therefore the problem of the mount still running after the Park

command

means that the command :KA# is not being sent to the mount. The fact that

when you do send this command to the mount and the motors stop, even though

the

camera cable is still connected, means that the camera cable and camera

relays

are not the problem. It goes back to either corrupted software or other

computer problem.



Roland Christen





In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:24:01 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:





> Heck yes

> A week of frustration, and seconds of enlightenment

> g>

>

> I am happy but now opens up a whole new can of worms

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

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> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

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> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:06:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> > sreilly@... writes:

> >

> >

> >> If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for the ST237 is

> >> plugged

> >> into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course this only affects

> >> the

> >> RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue until the guider

> >> lead

> >> is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has normally closed

> >> contacts,

> >> thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I had known you

> >> were

> >> using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

> >>

> >> Steve

> >>

> >

> > Steve, Ray, I think you guys have solved the mystery.

> >

> > Roland Christen

> >

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#11576 Jan 8, 2005

Roland



Alright lets back track her for a second

When I used the 10xe self guider and the 237 guider was not connected, the

mount parked and still kept tracking though



And yes every time I sent the :KA# command to the mount via TheSky manually

no matter when I tried it ( I tested it out 6 times between yesterday and

this afternoon at different times just to make sure) the RA motors stopped.

And yes a couple of time the 237 guider cable was connected to the mount

when I sent this manually



Since I had no idea the 237 guider connection made a difference

I am still confused though it is easy for me to get that way





Mark





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>

> In a message dated 1/8/2005 2:05:58 PM Central Standard Time,

> sreilly@... writes:

>

>

>> All I know 100% is if the

>> mount is powered, parked and the cable is in the guider port with the

>> ST237

>> off, it's gonna move

>

> No, it will not. Mark already confirmed that the mount will stop moving

> when

> he sends the park command manually.

>

> Roland Christen

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#11577 Jan 8, 2005

In a message dated 1/8/2005 2:23:24 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> And yes every time I sent the :KA# command to the mount via TheSky manually

>

> no matter when I tried it ( I tested it out 6 times between yesterday and

> this afternoon at different times just to make sure) the RA motors stopped.

>

> And yes a couple of time the 237 guider cable was connected to the mount

> when I sent this manually

>

> Since I had no idea the 237 guider connection made a difference

> I am still confused though it is easy for me to get that way

>



Why be confused. The guider cable being plugged in has no effect on the park

condition, regardless of the inputs to the guider port. You have already

confirmed it, and I did also here on my test setup. IF the mount gets the proper KA

command, the motors will be powered OFF. No power exists on the motor cables

at that point and they cannot turn. No input from the guider port will turn

them, cause there is no 'lectricity to the motor.



The only way the motor can be re-activated is via a command from the keypad

to resume from park.



Roland Christen





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#11578 Jan 8, 2005

Then I would have to conclude that for some reason TheSky is not sending the

proper :KA# to my mount for some reason



Wonder is there is a place to look in the program on where this line code

should be or where I can put it in





Mark

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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 3:38 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/8/2005 2:23:24 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> And yes every time I sent the :KA# command to the mount via TheSky

>> manually

>>

>> no matter when I tried it ( I tested it out 6 times between yesterday and

>> this afternoon at different times just to make sure) the RA motors

>> stopped.

>>

>> And yes a couple of time the 237 guider cable was connected to the mount

>> when I sent this manually

>>

>> Since I had no idea the 237 guider connection made a difference

>> I am still confused though it is easy for me to get that way

>>

>

> Why be confused. The guider cable being plugged in has no effect on the

> park

> condition, regardless of the inputs to the guider port. You have already

> confirmed it, and I did also here on my test setup. IF the mount gets the

> proper KA

> command, the motors will be powered OFF. No power exists on the motor

> cables

> at that point and they cannot turn. No input from the guider port will

> turn

> them, cause there is no 'lectricity to the motor.

>

> The only way the motor can be re-activated is via a command from the

> keypad

> to resume from park.

>

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#11579 Jan 8, 2005

My sincerest apologizes Roland and Mark. I went out to the observatory and

confirmed that what I had experienced several years ago simply will not

happen now. I can not explain what happened but neither TheSky, the ST237 or

computer have any bearing on it now for me. I have tried all scenarios and

the mount stays park regardless what's plugged in or turned on/off. I will

fade quietly back into the background to be here but not seen:((





Steve







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In a message dated 1/8/2005 2:23:24 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> And yes every time I sent the :KA# command to the mount via TheSky

manually >

> no matter when I tried it ( I tested it out 6 times between yesterday and

> this afternoon at different times just to make sure) the RA motors

stopped. >

> And yes a couple of time the 237 guider cable was connected to the mount

> when I sent this manually

>

> Since I had no idea the 237 guider connection made a difference

> I am still confused though it is easy for me to get that way

>



Why be confused. The guider cable being plugged in has no effect on the park



condition, regardless of the inputs to the guider port. You have already

confirmed it, and I did also here on my test setup. IF the mount gets the

proper KA

command, the motors will be powered OFF. No power exists on the motor cables



at that point and they cannot turn. No input from the guider port will turn

them, cause there is no 'lectricity to the motor.



The only way the motor can be re-activated is via a command from the keypad

to resume from park.



Roland Christen





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#11580 Jan 8, 2005

So it is back to me alone with something in TheSky not sending the proper

code to the mount when it sends the park command

If the 237 is connected or not



Either I find the code issue or back hiring the Observatory "boy" to park

the mount properly at the end of the night





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 3:47 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> My sincerest apologizes Roland and Mark. I went out to the observatory and

> confirmed that what I had experienced several years ago simply will not

> happen now. I can not explain what happened but neither TheSky, the ST237

> or

> computer have any bearing on it now for me. I have tried all scenarios and

> the mount stays park regardless what's plugged in or turned on/off. I will

> fade quietly back into the background to be here but not seen:((

>

>

> Steve

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

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> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 3:39 PM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> In a message dated 1/8/2005 2:23:24 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> And yes every time I sent the :KA# command to the mount via TheSky

> manually

>>

>> no matter when I tried it ( I tested it out 6 times between yesterday and

>> this afternoon at different times just to make sure) the RA motors

> stopped.

>>

>> And yes a couple of time the 237 guider cable was connected to the mount

>> when I sent this manually

>>

>> Since I had no idea the 237 guider connection made a difference

>> I am still confused though it is easy for me to get that way

>>

>

> Why be confused. The guider cable being plugged in has no effect on the

> park

>

> condition, regardless of the inputs to the guider port. You have already

> confirmed it, and I did also here on my test setup. IF the mount gets the

> proper KA

> command, the motors will be powered OFF. No power exists on the motor

> cables

>

> at that point and they cannot turn. No input from the guider port will

> turn

> them, cause there is no 'lectricity to the motor.

>

> The only way the motor can be re-activated is via a command from the

> keypad

> to resume from park.

>

> Roland Christen

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#11581 Jan 8, 2005

In a message dated 1/8/2005 2:48:08 PM Central Standard Time,

sreilly@... writes:



> My sincerest apologizes Roland and Mark. I went out to the observatory and

> confirmed that what I had experienced several years ago simply will not

> happen now. I can not explain what happened but neither TheSky, the ST237 or

> computer have any bearing on it now for me. I have tried all scenarios and

> the mount stays park regardless what's plugged in or turned on/off. I will

> fade quietly back into the background to be here but not seen:((

>

>



Glad to know that your system behaves. In any complex setup like these

mounts/CCD cameras/computers there are any number of variables that can affect an

outcome, so don't feel too bad about your observations. At times I get confused

also about the exact operation of these things and must go to the test setup

to confirm. Or, I ask Marj and she usually knows the answer.



Roland Christen





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#11582 Jan 8, 2005

Hi Roland,



Then is there some command that wakes the mount? Because I am pretty sure after parking that I can slew the mount and move it with

serial port commands.



-Ray

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> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:53 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> Well, I just double checked my assumptions, and I was wrong

> about the motor running when the mount is parked and there is

> an input signal to the mount. If the mount is parked and the

> command :KA# is sent, the motors are completely de-energized

> and will not turn, even if there is a signal at the

> autoguider inputs. So therefore the problem of the mount

> still running after the Park command means that the command

> :KA# is not being sent to the mount. The fact that when you

> do send this command to the mount and the motors stop, even

> though the camera cable is still connected, means that the

> camera cable and camera relays are not the problem. It goes

> back to either corrupted software or other computer problem.

>

> Roland Christen

>

>

> In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:24:01 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

> > Heck yes

> > A week of frustration, and seconds of enlightenment

> > g>

> >

> > I am happy but now opens up a whole new can of worms

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> >

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> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:20 PM

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:06:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> > > sreilly@... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > >> If you are parking the mount and the guider cable for

> the ST237 is

> > >> plugged

> > >> into the mount, it will continue to track. Of course

> this only affects

> > >> the

> > >> RA motor as you don't track in DEC. This will continue

> until the guider

> > >> lead

> > >> is unplugged from the mount. The ST237 control has

> normally closed

> > >> contacts,

> > >> thus the signal when the camera is not powered. Wish I

> had known you were

> > >> using this camera before, could have saved you a lot of

> headaches.

> > >>

> > >> Steve

> > >>

> > >

> > > Steve, Ray, I think you guys have solved the mystery.

> > >

> > > Roland Christen

> > >

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In a message dated 1/8/2005 3:02:03 PM Central Standard Time, ray@...

writes:



> Then is there some command that wakes the mount? Because I am pretty sure

> after parking that I can slew the mount and move it with

> serial port commands.

>



Yes, you can move it via serial port because any of the software move

commands will wake up the servo and re-establish power to the motors and servo

control loops. Just the hardware command, the switch closing at the guider port does

not command the servo to come back to life.



Roland Christen





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#11586 Jan 8, 2005

In a message dated 1/8/2005 3:10:57 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> Either I find the code issue or back hiring the Observatory "boy" to park

> the mount properly at the end of the night

>



How do you turn off power to your cameras at the end of the night?



Roland Christen





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#11587 Jan 8, 2005

Ok, thanks Roland.



-Ray

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>

>

> In a message dated 1/8/2005 3:02:03 PM Central Standard Time,

> ray@...

> writes:

>

>

> > Then is there some command that wakes the mount? Because I

> am pretty sure

> > after parking that I can slew the mount and move it with

> > serial port commands.

> >

>

> Yes, you can move it via serial port because any of the software move

> commands will wake up the servo and re-establish power to the

> motors and servo

> control loops. Just the hardware command, the switch closing

> at the guider port does

> not command the servo to come back to life.

>

> Roland Christen

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#11588 Jan 8, 2005

I have been running John Smith's Autopilot



Not sure how much you know about it, But at the end of my imaging, it shuts

my guider off, uses TheSky to park my mount, then I take darks till I come

back into the observatory early morning.



Mark

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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 5:07 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





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>

>

>> Either I find the code issue or back hiring the Observatory "boy" to park

>> the mount properly at the end of the night

>>

>

> How do you turn off power to your cameras at the end of the night?

>

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#11592 Jan 8, 2005

Mark,



I am by no means anywhere near being an expert here. Was looking at my

setup in The Sky5 telescope control under options. Do you have the

confirm slew box checked? Just as a long shot maybe The Sky could be

sending the KA command too early after the slew command and the KA

could be getting lost. If The Sky 6 does not have a option here try to

park it twice in a row to see if the motors stop (the second slew

should take almost no time to complete). The CP2 probably ques up the

serial commands anyway - like I said a long shot. I wonder if Ray's

software verifies completion of each command to close the loop vs

running single ended. I Tried to see if I could find a The Sky5 serial

log to verify but could not find it.



Still raining -too much time on my hands,

Jim





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>

> Not sure how much you know about it, But at the end of my imaging,

it shuts

> my guider off, uses TheSky to park my mount, then I take darks till

I come

> back into the observatory early morning.

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

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> >

> >

> >> Either I find the code issue or back hiring the Observatory "boy"

to park

> >> the mount properly at the end of the night

> >>

> >

> > How do you turn off power to your cameras at the end of the night?

> >

> > Roland Christen

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#11594 Jan 8, 2005

I can tell you that Ray's Pulseguide parks my mount and stops the tracking

Confirm slewing is not checked,





Mark

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N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:06 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park









Mark,



I am by no means anywhere near being an expert here. Was looking at my

setup in The Sky5 telescope control under options. Do you have the

confirm slew box checked? Just as a long shot maybe The Sky could be

sending the KA command too early after the slew command and the KA

could be getting lost. If The Sky 6 does not have a option here try to

park it twice in a row to see if the motors stop (the second slew

should take almost no time to complete). The CP2 probably ques up the

serial commands anyway - like I said a long shot. I wonder if Ray's

software verifies completion of each command to close the loop vs

running single ended. I Tried to see if I could find a The Sky5 serial

log to verify but could not find it.



Still raining -too much time on my hands,

Jim







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> I have been running John Smith's Autopilot

>

> Not sure how much you know about it, But at the end of my imaging,

it shuts

> my guider off, uses TheSky to park my mount, then I take darks till

I come

> back into the observatory early morning.

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

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> > In a message dated 1/8/2005 3:10:57 PM Central Standard Time,

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> >

> >

> >> Either I find the code issue or back hiring the Observatory "boy"

to park

> >> the mount properly at the end of the night

> >>

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> > How do you turn off power to your cameras at the end of the night?

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#11595 Jan 8, 2005

Mark,

I agree that there is a significant difference between how the two

programs park the mount. I also find that Pulse Guide performs mount

init flawlessly while The Sky5 will not perform this function

correctly (I have to use pulse guide). The Sky5 does wake up the mount

just fine (as far as I can tell) and seems to do every thing else

correctly. BTW have you tried to init your mount using Pulse Guide? If

you used The Sky to init the mount (site /time info) it may not be

doing this right. As per Ray's suggestion I used his init to set up

the mount and after The Sky5 parking started to behave reasonably

well. Does not make sense but so far it seems to work for me.



Try checking the confirm slew box to see if it makes any difference.



Jim

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> I can tell you that Ray's Pulseguide parks my mount and stops the

tracking

> Confirm slewing is not checked,

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@p...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:06 PM

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>

> Mark,

>

> I am by no means anywhere near being an expert here. Was looking at my

> setup in The Sky5 telescope control under options. Do you have the

> confirm slew box checked? Just as a long shot maybe The Sky could be

> sending the KA command too early after the slew command and the KA

> could be getting lost. If The Sky 6 does not have a option here try to

> park it twice in a row to see if the motors stop (the second slew

> should take almost no time to complete). The CP2 probably ques up the

> serial commands anyway - like I said a long shot. I wonder if Ray's

> software verifies completion of each command to close the loop vs

> running single ended. I Tried to see if I could find a The Sky5 serial

> log to verify but could not find it.

>

> Still raining -too much time on my hands,

> Jim

>

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> > I have been running John Smith's Autopilot

> >

> > Not sure how much you know about it, But at the end of my imaging,

> it shuts

> > my guider off, uses TheSky to park my mount, then I take darks till

> I come

> > back into the observatory early morning.

> >

> > Mark

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> > >> Either I find the code issue or back hiring the Observatory "boy"

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> > >> the mount properly at the end of the night

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#11596 Jan 8, 2005

Jim,



Will try that after tonight's imaging session

However I use TheSkyv6 in conjunction with other programs to semi-automate

my image acquisition.

I got to sleep now and the system will guide, focus between filters, park my

scope ( not stop tracking though yet g>) and take my darks





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:06 AM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park









Mark,

I agree that there is a significant difference between how the two

programs park the mount. I also find that Pulse Guide performs mount

init flawlessly while The Sky5 will not perform this function

correctly (I have to use pulse guide). The Sky5 does wake up the mount

just fine (as far as I can tell) and seems to do every thing else

correctly. BTW have you tried to init your mount using Pulse Guide? If

you used The Sky to init the mount (site /time info) it may not be

doing this right. As per Ray's suggestion I used his init to set up

the mount and after The Sky5 parking started to behave reasonably

well. Does not make sense but so far it seems to work for me.



Try checking the confirm slew box to see if it makes any difference.



Jim



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> I can tell you that Ray's Pulseguide parks my mount and stops the

tracking

> Confirm slewing is not checked,

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@p...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:06 PM

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>

> Mark,

>

> I am by no means anywhere near being an expert here. Was looking at my

> setup in The Sky5 telescope control under options. Do you have the

> confirm slew box checked? Just as a long shot maybe The Sky could be

> sending the KA command too early after the slew command and the KA

> could be getting lost. If The Sky 6 does not have a option here try to

> park it twice in a row to see if the motors stop (the second slew

> should take almost no time to complete). The CP2 probably ques up the

> serial commands anyway - like I said a long shot. I wonder if Ray's

> software verifies completion of each command to close the loop vs

> running single ended. I Tried to see if I could find a The Sky5 serial

> log to verify but could not find it.

>

> Still raining -too much time on my hands,

> Jim

>

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> > I have been running John Smith's Autopilot

> >

> > Not sure how much you know about it, But at the end of my imaging,

> it shuts

> > my guider off, uses TheSky to park my mount, then I take darks till

> I come

> > back into the observatory early morning.

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> > ----- Original Message -----

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> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 5:07 PM

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

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> > > In a message dated 1/8/2005 3:10:57 PM Central Standard Time,

> > > aajohnah@t... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > >> Either I find the code issue or back hiring the Observatory "boy"

> to park

> > >> the mount properly at the end of the night

> > >>

> > >

> > > How do you turn off power to your cameras at the end of the night?

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#11599 Jan 9, 2005

Mark,



Experimented a bit with The Sky5 and the confirm slew does not have

any effect. I did remove the motor cover to verify servo stop and the

mount does stop correctly when parked from the sky. I did notice that

upon link the mount will behave differently depending on if the mount

was powered down or not. If the mount was powered down the tracking

will start imeadiatly upon link. If the mount is parked and the

tracking stops the tracking will not resume upon link. It will begin

tracking on the first slew. This behavior is the same whether I use

Pulse guide or The Sky5. It appears that The Sky5 parks by doing a

slew to a position in the sky rather than to a specific mount position

(mount uses 0 0 for #3 and The Sky calculates a position based on

current time and location??). Using The Sky controlled mount in

MaximDl seems to be working also but there does seem to be some

differences in the location of objects depending on where the command

came from (The Sky, Key Pad, MaximDl).



BTW is there any possibility thepower to the mount might be glitching

and causing your tracking to resume?



I'm shure you will get it figured out,

Jim



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> Jim,

>

> Will try that after tonight's imaging session

> However I use TheSkyv6 in conjunction with other programs to

semi-automate

> my image acquisition.

> I got to sleep now and the system will guide, focus between filters,

park my

> scope ( not stop tracking though yet g>) and take my darks

>



----------------------------

#11600 Jan 9, 2005

Power is constant, a 25amp 15volt regulate power supply ONLY for the AP

mount



I did however get Pulseguide, the AP handcontroller, and Ascomv4 to all park

the mount last night and tracking stopped



Going to set up TheSkyv6 via the Ascom driver tonight and see if that parks

and stops the tracking of my mount



From what I gather this is unique with my version of TheSkyv6 and my mount

though





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:46 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

>

> Mark,

>

> Experimented a bit with The Sky5 and the confirm slew does not have

> any effect. I did remove the motor cover to verify servo stop and the

> mount does stop correctly when parked from the sky. I did notice that

> upon link the mount will behave differently depending on if the mount

> was powered down or not. If the mount was powered down the tracking

> will start imeadiatly upon link. If the mount is parked and the

> tracking stops the tracking will not resume upon link. It will begin

> tracking on the first slew. This behavior is the same whether I use

> Pulse guide or The Sky5. It appears that The Sky5 parks by doing a

> slew to a position in the sky rather than to a specific mount position

> (mount uses 0 0 for #3 and The Sky calculates a position based on

> current time and location??). Using The Sky controlled mount in

> MaximDl seems to be working also but there does seem to be some

> differences in the location of objects depending on where the command

> came from (The Sky, Key Pad, MaximDl).

>

> BTW is there any possibility thepower to the mount might be glitching

> and causing your tracking to resume?

>

> I'm shure you will get it figured out,

> Jim

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

>> Jim,

>>

>> Will try that after tonight's imaging session

>> However I use TheSkyv6 in conjunction with other programs to

> semi-automate

>> my image acquisition.

>> I got to sleep now and the system will guide, focus between filters,

> park my

>> scope ( not stop tracking though yet g>) and take my darks

>>

>

>

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#11601 Jan 9, 2005

At 12:15 AM 1/8/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>I tried the code :KA#

>got the no response and the count stopped tracking

>

>So that would sound like for some reason when my version of TheSky parks the

>stop tracking code is not sent?

>Or am I wrong with that?

>

>Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down



So, what version of TheSky(6) are you running?





Dave







----------------------------

#11602 Jan 9, 2005

Dave,

V6.0.029



Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:03 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> At 12:15 AM 1/8/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>

>>I tried the code :KA#

>>got the no response and the count stopped tracking

>>

>>So that would sound like for some reason when my version of TheSky parks

>>the

>>stop tracking code is not sent?

>>Or am I wrong with that?

>>

>>Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

>

> So, what version of TheSky(6) are you running?

>

>

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#11603 Jan 10, 2005

Dave,

I have already confirmed that the version he is running (the most recent

- v6.0.0.29) works as it should.



Clear skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc.

11250 Forest Hills Road

Rockford, IL 61115

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>-----Original Message-----

>From: David B. Toth [mailto:ve3gyq@...]

>Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 8:03 PM

>To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>At 12:15 AM 1/8/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>

>>I tried the code :KA#

>>got the no response and the count stopped tracking

>>

>>So that would sound like for some reason when my version of

>TheSky parks the

>>stop tracking code is not sent?

>>Or am I wrong with that?

>>

>>Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

>

>So, what version of TheSky(6) are you running?

>

>

>Dave

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#11604 Jan 10, 2005

Mark has emailed me TheSky6's log file. TheSky6 is sending the park command to the mount, for certain.



Is there anything else we're overlooking here?



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

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Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 8:13 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Dave,

V6.0.029



Mark

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N 27. 52' 20"

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From: "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:03 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> At 12:15 AM 1/8/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>

>>I tried the code :KA#

>>got the no response and the count stopped tracking

>>

>>So that would sound like for some reason when my version of TheSky parks

>>the

>>stop tracking code is not sent?

>>Or am I wrong with that?

>>

>>Thank you for all this help in tracking this problem down

>

> So, what version of TheSky(6) are you running?

>

>

> Dave

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#11605 Jan 10, 2005

In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:52:57 PM Central Standard Time,

daniel@... writes:



>

> Mark has emailed me TheSky6's log file. TheSky6 is sending the park command

> to the mount, for certain.

>

> Is there anything else we're overlooking here?

>



Is it being sent direct or is it being routed through another program which

may be modifying the command?



Roland Christen





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#11606 Jan 10, 2005

Roland,



TheSkyv6.0.0.29 connected to the mount





Mark





----- Original Message -----

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To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:15 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:52:57 PM Central Standard Time,

> daniel@... writes:

>

>

>>

>> Mark has emailed me TheSky6's log file. TheSky6 is sending the park

>> command

>> to the mount, for certain.

>>

>> Is there anything else we're overlooking here?

>>

>

> Is it being sent direct or is it being routed through another program

> which

> may be modifying the command?

>

> Roland Christen







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#11607 Jan 10, 2005

In a message dated 1/10/2005 2:28:52 PM Central Standard Time,

aajohnah@... writes:



> Roland,

>

> TheSkyv6.0.0.29 connected to the mount

>

>



Yes, I understand, and yet when you send the command directly from

TheSky6.0.0.29, it works. So, what is changing the command on the way to the mount?



Roland Christen





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#11608 Jan 10, 2005

Roland,



I have no idea

Same set-up all the time. No connections change



I know that I can get the Ascomv4 driver to park and stop the mount from

tracking. now just have to figure out what driver the would be in TheSky

since I used it with another program last night to check this out once

again.



At this point I guess I can not expect TheSky to have my mount stop tracking

at the park position. At least not with the Astrophysics Driver on TheSky



Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: chris1011@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:48 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/10/2005 2:28:52 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> Roland,

>>

>> TheSkyv6.0.0.29 connected to the mount

>>

>>

>

> Yes, I understand, and yet when you send the command directly from

> TheSky6.0.0.29, it works. So, what is changing the command on the way to

> the mount?

>

> Roland Christen







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#11609 Jan 10, 2005

Mark,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

now just have to figure out what driver the would be in TheSky

since I used it with another program last night to check this out once

again.

<<<<<<



Not sure what you mean by this...If you're using the "Telescope | Setup | Astro-Physics..." driver in TheSky6, you're using the native driver. Any other setting, you're using a different telescope driver. That's it.

>>At this point I guess I can not expect TheSky to have my mount stop tracking

>>at the park position. At least not with the Astrophysics Driver on TheSky



This is really troublesome and extremely frustrating. SB has done everything to ensure that the device is receiving the command as specified in the protocol. The log shows that the command is being sent out the COM port.



And, as I understand, many others have verified that their hardware is functioning as expected using TheSky6's driver.



It makes no sense...



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

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Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:07 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

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Roland,



I have no idea

Same set-up all the time. No connections change



I know that I can get the Ascomv4 driver to park and stop the mount from

tracking. now just have to figure out what driver the would be in TheSky

since I used it with another program last night to check this out once

again.



At this point I guess I can not expect TheSky to have my mount stop tracking

at the park position. At least not with the Astrophysics Driver on TheSky



Mark

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Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:48 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> In a message dated 1/10/2005 2:28:52 PM Central Standard Time,

> aajohnah@... writes:

>

>

>> Roland,

>>

>> TheSkyv6.0.0.29 connected to the mount

>>

>>

>

> Yes, I understand, and yet when you send the command directly from

> TheSky6.0.0.29, it works. So, what is changing the command on the way to

> the mount?

>

> Roland Christen







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#11610 Jan 10, 2005

Daniel,



I am frustrated too

And have no idea what to do since I am not a computer person



And yes I have been using the AP driver on TheSky. I am just thinking

maybe another way around this?? I really do not know only know this



it does now work for me?



How about this

For the people that it does work for

Anyone running Windows XP Pro with SP2 embedded in it from Microsoft? Not

the SP2 service pack. ( Not sure who someone told me that there are some

slight differences)





Mark

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>

> Mark,

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> now just have to figure out what driver the would be in TheSky

> since I used it with another program last night to check this out once

> again.

> <<<<<<

>

> Not sure what you mean by this...If you're using the "Telescope | Setup |

> Astro-Physics..." driver in TheSky6, you're using the native driver. Any

> other setting, you're using a different telescope driver. That's it.

>

>>>At this point I guess I can not expect TheSky to have my mount stop

>>>tracking

>>>at the park position. At least not with the Astrophysics Driver on

>>>TheSky

>

> This is really troublesome and extremely frustrating. SB has done

> everything to ensure that the device is receiving the command as specified

> in the protocol. The log shows that the command is being sent out the COM

> port.

>

> And, as I understand, many others have verified that their hardware is

> functioning as expected using TheSky6's driver.

>

> It makes no sense...

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:07 PM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Roland,

>

> I have no idea

> Same set-up all the time. No connections change

>

> I know that I can get the Ascomv4 driver to park and stop the mount from

> tracking. now just have to figure out what driver the would be in TheSky

> since I used it with another program last night to check this out once

> again.

>

> At this point I guess I can not expect TheSky to have my mount stop

> tracking

> at the park position. At least not with the Astrophysics Driver on TheSky

>

> Mark

>

> ----- Original Message -----

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> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:48 PM

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>>

>> In a message dated 1/10/2005 2:28:52 PM Central Standard Time,

>> aajohnah@... writes:

>>

>>

>>> Roland,

>>>

>>> TheSkyv6.0.0.29 connected to the mount

>>>

>>>

>>

>> Yes, I understand, and yet when you send the command directly from

>> TheSky6.0.0.29, it works. So, what is changing the command on the way to

>> the mount?

>>

>> Roland Christen

>

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#11611 Jan 10, 2005

Mark,

>>I am just thinking maybe another way around this?



If you've closed every other application, and are using ONLY TheSky6 to control the mount, and click "Telescope | Options | Park" then that's all there is to do.

>>Anyone running Windows XP Pro with SP2 embedded in it from Microsoft? Not

>>the SP2 service pack. ( Not sure who someone told me that there are some

>>slight differences)



According to the log files you've sent to me, the serial commands are going to the device. Nothing else should matter.



Daniel R. Bisque

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USA

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-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:04 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Daniel,



I am frustrated too

And have no idea what to do since I am not a computer person



And yes I have been using the AP driver on TheSky. I am just thinking

maybe another way around this?? I really do not know only know this



it does now work for me?



How about this

For the people that it does work for

Anyone running Windows XP Pro with SP2 embedded in it from Microsoft? Not

the SP2 service pack. ( Not sure who someone told me that there are some

slight differences)





Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:43 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> Mark,

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> now just have to figure out what driver the would be in TheSky

> since I used it with another program last night to check this out once

> again.

> <<<<<<

>

> Not sure what you mean by this...If you're using the "Telescope | Setup |

> Astro-Physics..." driver in TheSky6, you're using the native driver. Any

> other setting, you're using a different telescope driver. That's it.

>

>>>At this point I guess I can not expect TheSky to have my mount stop

>>>tracking

>>>at the park position. At least not with the Astrophysics Driver on

>>>TheSky

>

> This is really troublesome and extremely frustrating. SB has done

> everything to ensure that the device is receiving the command as specified

> in the protocol. The log shows that the command is being sent out the COM

> port.

>

> And, as I understand, many others have verified that their hardware is

> functioning as expected using TheSky6's driver.

>

> It makes no sense...

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:07 PM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Roland,

>

> I have no idea

> Same set-up all the time. No connections change

>

> I know that I can get the Ascomv4 driver to park and stop the mount from

> tracking. now just have to figure out what driver the would be in TheSky

> since I used it with another program last night to check this out once

> again.

>

> At this point I guess I can not expect TheSky to have my mount stop

> tracking

> at the park position. At least not with the Astrophysics Driver on TheSky

>

> Mark

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: chris1011@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:48 PM

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>>

>> In a message dated 1/10/2005 2:28:52 PM Central Standard Time,

>> aajohnah@... writes:

>>

>>

>>> Roland,

>>>

>>> TheSkyv6.0.0.29 connected to the mount

>>>

>>>

>>

>> Yes, I understand, and yet when you send the command directly from

>> TheSky6.0.0.29, it works. So, what is changing the command on the way to

>> the mount?

>>

>> Roland Christen

>

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#11612 Jan 10, 2005

At 12:13 PM 1/10/2005, Marjorie Christen wrote:

>Dave,

>I have already confirmed that the version he is running (the most recent

>- v6.0.0.29) works as it should.



Thanks Marj, that is a big help already to know that. This is quite confusing.



Dave



----------------------------

#11613 Jan 11, 2005

I would like to thank Roland and Daniel for all the time spent with me on my

unique situation.



Though I still can not get the AP driver to Park and stop tracking my mount

when using TheSky v6.0.0.29



Last night I did the following with perfect success:



TheSky was connected to the mount via the AP driver through TheSky ( I need

TheSky to frame my image and find a suitable guidestar for my 10xe self

guider chip )

I then connected another program to the mount through Ascomv4 and their AP

driver.

At the end of my imaging session ( I tried this three times last night ) the

mount parked and stopped tracking. TheSky stayed connected to the mount but

no commands were issued to make it move.





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#11614 Jan 11, 2005

Mark,

Something seems wrong here. Unless you are using two separate comm

ports you should NOT be able to connect to the mount with any other

application unless you first disconnect The Sky6 first. If indeed you

are using only one comm port and the ASCOM will talk to the mount

while The Sky is connected then it looks that ASCOM is in control of

the port and not The Sky and may expain your mounts behavior. On my

system the ASCOM4 will not work unless I disconnect The Sky first. If

this is the case there could be problems with the OS allowing two

drivers to 'own' the same comm port at the same time. Could be that XP

thinks it has a way to make the sharing work but my Win2k only allows

one owner at a time.

Good luck,

Jim



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> I would like to thank Roland and Daniel for all the time spent with

me on my

> unique situation.

>

> Though I still can not get the AP driver to Park and stop tracking

my mount

> when using TheSky v6.0.0.29

>

> Last night I did the following with perfect success:

>

> TheSky was connected to the mount via the AP driver through TheSky (

I need

> TheSky to frame my image and find a suitable guidestar for my 10xe self

> guider chip )

> I then connected another program to the mount through Ascomv4 and

their AP

> driver.

> At the end of my imaging session ( I tried this three times last

night ) the

> mount parked and stopped tracking. TheSky stayed connected to the

mount but

> no commands were issued to make it move.

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

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#11615 Jan 11, 2005

Jim,



Sorry YES both serial ports on the scope are being used



Bottom line is the Ascomv4 driver parks the scope properly and stops

tracking.

When I get a chance I am going to use the Telescope API driver and Ascomv4

as my hub and leave one port open for say Pulseguide. I always have both

serial ports available just in case



Here is my pier command center, trying to have one USB cable to the

computer

New computers do not have serial ports these days

www.aajonahfish.com/piercentral.htm



Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:23 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park









Mark,

Something seems wrong here. Unless you are using two separate comm

ports you should NOT be able to connect to the mount with any other

application unless you first disconnect The Sky6 first. If indeed you

are using only one comm port and the ASCOM will talk to the mount

while The Sky is connected then it looks that ASCOM is in control of

the port and not The Sky and may expain your mounts behavior. On my

system the ASCOM4 will not work unless I disconnect The Sky first. If

this is the case there could be problems with the OS allowing two

drivers to 'own' the same comm port at the same time. Could be that XP

thinks it has a way to make the sharing work but my Win2k only allows

one owner at a time.

Good luck,

Jim





--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> I would like to thank Roland and Daniel for all the time spent with

me on my

> unique situation.

>

> Though I still can not get the AP driver to Park and stop tracking

my mount

> when using TheSky v6.0.0.29

>

> Last night I did the following with perfect success:

>

> TheSky was connected to the mount via the AP driver through TheSky (

I need

> TheSky to frame my image and find a suitable guidestar for my 10xe self

> guider chip )

> I then connected another program to the mount through Ascomv4 and

their AP

> driver.

> At the end of my imaging session ( I tried this three times last

night ) the

> mount parked and stopped tracking. TheSky stayed connected to the

mount but

> no commands were issued to make it move.

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

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#11616 Jan 11, 2005

You wrote:

>>Sorry YES both serial ports on the scope are being used



This is news to me, and introduces an unknown that I have not been taking into account.



1. Disconnect all serial cables from the AP GTO.

2. Connect the serial cable that TheSky6 uses ONLY.

3. Issue the "Park" command from TheSky6.



Mark, TheSky6 (and EVERY other application that controls the AP mount) is sending a single command to the device to park it.



If another application is issuing commands to the mount, then it may explain what's going on here.



Frustrated,



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:36 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







Jim,



Sorry YES both serial ports on the scope are being used







Bottom line is the Ascomv4 driver parks the scope properly and stops

tracking.

When I get a chance I am going to use the Telescope API driver and Ascomv4

as my hub and leave one port open for say Pulseguide. I always have both

serial ports available just in case



Here is my pier command center, trying to have one USB cable to the

computer

New computers do not have serial ports these days

www.aajonahfish.com/piercentral.htm



Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Nomura" jnomura@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:23 PM

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park









Mark,

Something seems wrong here. Unless you are using two separate comm

ports you should NOT be able to connect to the mount with any other

application unless you first disconnect The Sky6 first. If indeed you

are using only one comm port and the ASCOM will talk to the mount

while The Sky is connected then it looks that ASCOM is in control of

the port and not The Sky and may expain your mounts behavior. On my

system the ASCOM4 will not work unless I disconnect The Sky first. If

this is the case there could be problems with the OS allowing two

drivers to 'own' the same comm port at the same time. Could be that XP

thinks it has a way to make the sharing work but my Win2k only allows

one owner at a time.

Good luck,

Jim





--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> I would like to thank Roland and Daniel for all the time spent with

me on my

> unique situation.

>

> Though I still can not get the AP driver to Park and stop tracking

my mount

> when using TheSky v6.0.0.29

>

> Last night I did the following with perfect success:

>

> TheSky was connected to the mount via the AP driver through TheSky (

I need

> TheSky to frame my image and find a suitable guidestar for my 10xe self

> guider chip )

> I then connected another program to the mount through Ascomv4 and

their AP

> driver.

> At the end of my imaging session ( I tried this three times last

night ) the

> mount parked and stopped tracking. TheSky stayed connected to the

mount but

> no commands were issued to make it move.

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

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#11617 Jan 11, 2005

Daniel,



When I tested the park command out with TheSky it was alone. All tests were

done with one thing connected. Just TheSky. NO other program was up and

running on my computer at all. NOT even a camera operating program.



Now the other cables were connected but noting on the computer other than

TheSky. Everything was turned on and only TheSkyv6 was opened on the

computer



Disconnecting the other serial cable I can try, but it had nothing being

sent to it.



I have had PulseGuide and TheSkyv6 connected at the same time before. Once

again Pulseguide would park and stop tracking TheSky would not.

Last night was the one I just posted, that worked



Next time out I am going to try another combination to see if that works

too.

TheSky/TelescopeAPI



Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57" ----- Original Message -----

From: "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:48 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







You wrote:



>>Sorry YES both serial ports on the scope are being used



This is news to me, and introduces an unknown that I have not been taking

into account.



1. Disconnect all serial cables from the AP GTO.

2. Connect the serial cable that TheSky6 uses ONLY.

3. Issue the "Park" command from TheSky6.



Mark, TheSky6 (and EVERY other application that controls the AP mount) is

sending a single command to the device to park it.



If another application is issuing commands to the mount, then it may explain

what's going on here.



Frustrated,



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com











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#11618 Jan 11, 2005

Hi to all!



I just did some tests from my side and the park command works perfectly

including shutting down RA motor. I use TheSky 6.0.0.29 (AP native driver)

and PulseGuide 1.30 and both are connected separately with two serial cable

to my GTOCP3. However, if TheSky6 is closed, AP mount is parked (motor off)

and I decide to press a move button in PulseGuide, the RA motor will begin

to track again as I already know. Mark, tt seems that other software

re-energize the motor after the parking command. BTW, be careful in using

ASCOM and native AP driver when experimenting. I often experiment both

driver in selecting and de-selecting the telescope link and noticed severals

mount mixed-up. When selecting a driver, the mount should be synch

correctly before trying anything.



Just my two cents,

Yves



P.S.: Tonight, I was able to slew (from TheSky6) at comet Machholz at the

opposite side of the meridian without the mount having to swap the meridian.

I was able to slew to M1 (east side) or to comet Machholz (west side)

without any difficulties!!! The problem appeared only after I did some test

with the park command in PulseGuide in conjuction with TheSky6. I was

forced to shut down the AP servo controller also if I tried without success

to do a re-calibrate with my keypad.





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To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:02 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> Daniel,

>

> When I tested the park command out with TheSky it was alone. All tests

> were

> done with one thing connected. Just TheSky. NO other program was up and

> running on my computer at all. NOT even a camera operating program.

>

> Now the other cables were connected but noting on the computer other than

> TheSky. Everything was turned on and only TheSkyv6 was opened on the

> computer

>

> Disconnecting the other serial cable I can try, but it had nothing being

> sent to it.

>

> I have had PulseGuide and TheSkyv6 connected at the same time before.

> Once

> again Pulseguide would park and stop tracking TheSky would not.

> Last night was the one I just posted, that worked

>

> Next time out I am going to try another combination to see if that works

> too.

> TheSky/TelescopeAPI

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:48 PM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> You wrote:

>

>>>Sorry YES both serial ports on the scope are being used

>

> This is news to me, and introduces an unknown that I have not been taking

> into account.

>

> 1. Disconnect all serial cables from the AP GTO.

> 2. Connect the serial cable that TheSky6 uses ONLY.

> 3. Issue the "Park" command from TheSky6.

>

> Mark, TheSky6 (and EVERY other application that controls the AP mount) is

> sending a single command to the device to park it.

>

> If another application is issuing commands to the mount, then it may

> explain

> what's going on here.

>

> Frustrated,

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

>

>

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#11619 Jan 11, 2005

Yves,



Thank you

Yet has nothing to do with what is wrong with my mount or TheSky



Mark

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N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



----- Original Message -----

From: "yves laroche" yves.laroche@...>

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Cc: "yves laroche" yves.laroche@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:18 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> Hi to all!

>

> I just did some tests from my side and the park command works perfectly

> including shutting down RA motor. I use TheSky 6.0.0.29 (AP native

> driver)

> and PulseGuide 1.30 and both are connected separately with two serial

> cable

> to my GTOCP3. However, if TheSky6 is closed, AP mount is parked (motor

> off)

> and I decide to press a move button in PulseGuide, the RA motor will begin

> to track again as I already know. Mark, tt seems that other software

> re-energize the motor after the parking command. BTW, be careful in using

> ASCOM and native AP driver when experimenting. I often experiment both

> driver in selecting and de-selecting the telescope link and noticed

> severals

> mount mixed-up. When selecting a driver, the mount should be synch

> correctly before trying anything.

>

> Just my two cents,

> Yves

>

> P.S.: Tonight, I was able to slew (from TheSky6) at comet Machholz at the

> opposite side of the meridian without the mount having to swap the

> meridian.

> I was able to slew to M1 (east side) or to comet Machholz (west side)

> without any difficulties!!! The problem appeared only after I did some

> test

> with the park command in PulseGuide in conjuction with TheSky6. I was

> forced to shut down the AP servo controller also if I tried without

> success

> to do a re-calibrate with my keypad.

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "aajohnah" aajohnah@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:02 PM

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>>

>> Daniel,

>>

>> When I tested the park command out with TheSky it was alone. All tests

>> were

>> done with one thing connected. Just TheSky. NO other program was up and

>> running on my computer at all. NOT even a camera operating program.

>>

>> Now the other cables were connected but noting on the computer other than

>> TheSky. Everything was turned on and only TheSkyv6 was opened on the

>> computer

>>

>> Disconnecting the other serial cable I can try, but it had nothing being

>> sent to it.

>>

>> I have had PulseGuide and TheSkyv6 connected at the same time before.

>> Once

>> again Pulseguide would park and stop tracking TheSky would not.

>> Last night was the one I just posted, that worked

>>

>> Next time out I am going to try another combination to see if that works

>> too.

>> TheSky/TelescopeAPI

>>

>> Mark

>> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

>> N 27. 52' 20"

>> W 082. 28' 57"

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@...>

>> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:48 PM

>> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>>

>>

>>

>> You wrote:

>>

>>>>Sorry YES both serial ports on the scope are being used

>>

>> This is news to me, and introduces an unknown that I have not been taking

>> into account.

>>

>> 1. Disconnect all serial cables from the AP GTO.

>> 2. Connect the serial cable that TheSky6 uses ONLY.

>> 3. Issue the "Park" command from TheSky6.

>>

>> Mark, TheSky6 (and EVERY other application that controls the AP mount) is

>> sending a single command to the device to park it.

>>

>> If another application is issuing commands to the mount, then it may

>> explain

>> what's going on here.

>>

>> Frustrated,

>>

>> Daniel R. Bisque

>> Software Bisque

>> 912 12th St.

>> Golden, CO 80401

>> USA

>> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

>> Web Site: www.bisque.com







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#11620 Jan 11, 2005

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote: > Yves,

>

> Thank you

> Yet has nothing to do with what is wrong with my mount or TheSky

>

> Mark



Mark,

I don't run TheSky with my 1200 but I plan too and I have been

going kinda nuts reading about your problem.

Is there any outside chance that TheSky won't issue the "Stop"

command under some circumstances? Are there any illegal parking

positions?

You have already verified that the "stop" command works when it

is sent. There almost has to be some situation where the program

simply won't issue the command.



Harvey



----------------------------

#11621 Jan 12, 2005

Harvey,

>>Is there any outside chance that TheSky won't issue the "Stop"

>>command under some circumstances?



No (coming from the developer who wrote the driver). We've verified on Mark's computer that TheSky6 is, indeed, sending the appropriate command when parking the mount.

>>Are there any illegal parking positions?



Good question, I'll defer to the experts on the answer to this one. There's nothing in the protocol specifications that indicate parking restrictions.

>>There almost has to be some situation where the program

>>simply won't issue the command.



It's not the software failing to send the command. TheSky6 sends the command when the Park command is issued.



Thanks for your input on this perplexing issue that seemingly no one else can reproduce...



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: mrgrytt [mailto:mrgrytt@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:10 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "aajohnah" aajohnah@t...> wrote:

> Yves,

>

> Thank you

> Yet has nothing to do with what is wrong with my mount or TheSky

>

> Mark



Mark,

I don't run TheSky with my 1200 but I plan too and I have been

going kinda nuts reading about your problem.

Is there any outside chance that TheSky won't issue the "Stop"

command under some circumstances? Are there any illegal parking

positions?

You have already verified that the "stop" command works when it

is sent. There almost has to be some situation where the program

simply won't issue the command.



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#11703 Jan 19, 2005

At 06:45 AM 1/11/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>I would like to thank Roland and Daniel for all the time spent with me on my

>unique situation.



Just to supply some more info, Mark tells me that Daniel was able to help

him by introducing a 100 msec delay in TheSky6 when the Park command is

sent. Mark's hypothesis is that the problem was caused by going to a faster

laptop (faster than 3 GHz). The jury is still out on that one. At any rate,

the beta test seems to have fixed his problem.



Dave



----------------------------

#11704 Jan 19, 2005

That seems plausible. The reason PulseGuide works is that it always waits for replies before going on to the next command and even

inserts a delay between commands that do not have responses to ensure the mount firmware has some time to process each command.



Serial ports only have so much queue depth so you don't want to overflow them. If TheSky is blasting out serial commands like that

to other mounts those drivers might have latent problems as well.



-Ray Gralak

> -----Original Message-----

> From: David B. Toth [mailto:ve3gyq@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:42 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> At 06:45 AM 1/11/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>

> >I would like to thank Roland and Daniel for all the time

> spent with me

> >on my unique situation.

>

> Just to supply some more info, Mark tells me that Daniel was

> able to help him by introducing a 100 msec delay in TheSky6

> when the Park command is sent. Mark's hypothesis is that the

> problem was caused by going to a faster laptop (faster than 3

> GHz). The jury is still out on that one. At any rate, the

> beta test seems to have fixed his problem.

>

> Dave

>

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#11706 Jan 19, 2005

At 01:10 PM 1/19/2005, Ray Gralak wrote:

>That seems plausible. The reason PulseGuide works is that it always waits

>for replies before going on to the next command and even

>inserts a delay between commands that do not have responses to ensure the

>mount firmware has some time to process each command.

>

>Serial ports only have so much queue depth so you don't want to overflow

>them. If TheSky is blasting out serial commands like that

>to other mounts those drivers might have latent problems as well.



I wouldn't call 9600 baud blasting ... and Mark is the only one that

reported a problem with his 1200 ...Marj reported that all was well ...

We'll see if it happens more with faster processors.



Dave







----------------------------

#11707 Jan 19, 2005

Well guys

anyone out there in AP land have a computer 3.0ghz or faster with TheSkyv6?

why not try it out?



Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:42 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> At 01:10 PM 1/19/2005, Ray Gralak wrote:

>

>>That seems plausible. The reason PulseGuide works is that it always waits

>>for replies before going on to the next command and even

>>inserts a delay between commands that do not have responses to ensure the

>>mount firmware has some time to process each command.

>>

>>Serial ports only have so much queue depth so you don't want to overflow

>>them. If TheSky is blasting out serial commands like that

>>to other mounts those drivers might have latent problems as well.

>

> I wouldn't call 9600 baud blasting ... and Mark is the only one that

> reported a problem with his 1200 ...Marj reported that all was well ...

> We'll see if it happens more with faster processors.

>

> Dave



----------------------------

#11708 Jan 19, 2005

I wouldn't call 9600 baud blasting ... and Mark is the only

> one that reported a problem with his 1200 ...Marj reported

> that all was well ...

> We'll see if it happens more with faster processors.



Dave, I don't think you understood what I said. It's not the baud rate, it's the timing *between* the commands. And the speed of the

processor may not be the only factor. For instance, if you have a very fast but heavily loaded system (lots of background tasks)

then the problem may not occur.



-Ray Gralak



----------------------------

#11718 Jan 19, 2005

Ray,



You wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The reason PulseGuide works is that it always waits for replies before going on to the next command...

<<<<<<<<<<<<



According to the AP protocol, the park command does not give a response.



So there's no way to wait for one...





Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:11 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park







That seems plausible. The reason PulseGuide works is that it always waits for replies before going on to the next command and even

inserts a delay between commands that do not have responses to ensure the mount firmware has some time to process each command.



Serial ports only have so much queue depth so you don't want to overflow them. If TheSky is blasting out serial commands like that

to other mounts those drivers might have latent problems as well.



-Ray Gralak

> -----Original Message-----

> From: David B. Toth [mailto:ve3gyq@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:42 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> At 06:45 AM 1/11/2005, aajohnah wrote:

>

> >I would like to thank Roland and Daniel for all the time

> spent with me

> >on my unique situation.

>

> Just to supply some more info, Mark tells me that Daniel was

> able to help him by introducing a 100 msec delay in TheSky6

> when the Park command is sent. Mark's hypothesis is that the

> problem was caused by going to a faster laptop (faster than 3

> GHz). The jury is still out on that one. At any rate, the

> beta test seems to have fixed his problem.

>

> Dave

>

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#11719 Jan 19, 2005

Finishing the sentence Ray wrote which you quoted:



"and even inserts a delay between commands that do not have

responses to ensure the mount firmware has some time to process each

command."



It seems you didn't read far enough to get the point.



Jim McMillan



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@b...>

wrote: > Ray,

>

> You wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> The reason PulseGuide works is that it always waits for replies

before going on to the next command... > <<<<<<<<<<<<

>

> According to the AP protocol, the park command does not give a

response. >

> So there's no way to wait for one...

>

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@g...]

> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:11 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> That seems plausible. The reason PulseGuide works is that it

always waits for replies before going on to the next command and even > inserts a delay between commands that do not have responses to

ensure the mount firmware has some time to process each command. >

> Serial ports only have so much queue depth so you don't want to

overflow them. If TheSky is blasting out serial commands like that > to other mounts those drivers might have latent problems as well.

>

> -Ray Gralak

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: David B. Toth [mailto:ve3gyq@a...]

> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:42 AM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > At 06:45 AM 1/11/2005, aajohnah wrote:

> >

> > >I would like to thank Roland and Daniel for all the time

> > spent with me

> > >on my unique situation.

> >

> > Just to supply some more info, Mark tells me that Daniel was

> > able to help him by introducing a 100 msec delay in TheSky6

> > when the Park command is sent. Mark's hypothesis is that the

> > problem was caused by going to a faster laptop (faster than 3

> > GHz). The jury is still out on that one. At any rate, the

> > beta test seems to have fixed his problem.

> >

> > Dave

> >

> >

> >

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#11720 Jan 19, 2005

You wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> The reason PulseGuide works is that it always waits for

> replies before going on to the next command...

> <<<<<<<<<<<<

>

> According to the AP protocol, the park command does not give

> a response.

>

> So there's no way to wait for one...



Daniel, as did Dave, you are missing the point.



If TheSky sends a series of commands to the mount with *no* delay between each command it is possible that the serial queue could

fill up (on the mount) and characters dropped resulting in commands that don't appear to work. This can happen because each command

may not be processed immediately by the mount and/or may take a finite amount of time to complete before the next command can be

processed.



To circumvent this potential problem PulseGuide paces commands that have no response so as not to overfill the serial port queue.

The fact that the delay in TheSky solved Mark's problem indicates that perhaps TheSky should insert a small delay between commands

that send no response. Furthermore, you may want to check your other drivers to see if they ever blindly send a series of commands.

If any do you may find reliability will be increased if you insert delays in between those commands.



-Ray Gralak



----------------------------

#11722 Jan 19, 2005

I was told that there is such a thing as a "serial port sniffer"

This put on the line will tell you not only if the command is being sent but

if the command actually reaches and is read by the mount ( or any device on

the other end)

Only reason I know about this is that is what my next step was after I was

the only one with this problem and no one else had it.



I take it that my computer is the fastest one running TheSkyv6 and an Ap

mount out there?

Does not make logical sense to me. So there must be someone else running on

at 3.0ghz or faster. Do they experience the same problem as I did?

OR

You can take it that the 100 millisecond that was added fixed the problem so

then in turn the computer was sending the command faster than the mount

could read it?





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"





----- Original Message -----

From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:03 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

>> You wrote:

>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> The reason PulseGuide works is that it always waits for

>> replies before going on to the next command...

>> <<<<<<<<<<<<

>>

>> According to the AP protocol, the park command does not give

>> a response.

>>

>> So there's no way to wait for one...

>

> Daniel, as did Dave, you are missing the point.

>

> If TheSky sends a series of commands to the mount with *no* delay between

> each command it is possible that the serial queue could

> fill up (on the mount) and characters dropped resulting in commands that

> don't appear to work. This can happen because each command

> may not be processed immediately by the mount and/or may take a finite

> amount of time to complete before the next command can be

> processed.

>

> To circumvent this potential problem PulseGuide paces commands that have

> no response so as not to overfill the serial port queue.

> The fact that the delay in TheSky solved Mark's problem indicates that

> perhaps TheSky should insert a small delay between commands

> that send no response. Furthermore, you may want to check your other

> drivers to see if they ever blindly send a series of commands.

> If any do you may find reliability will be increased if you insert delays

> in between those commands.

>

> -Ray Gralak



----------------------------

#11723 Jan 19, 2005

Mark,

> I was told that there is such a thing as a "serial port sniffer"

> This put on the line will tell you not only if the command is

> being sent but if the command actually reaches and is read by

> the mount ( or any device on the other end) Only reason I

> know about this is that is what my next step was after I was

> the only one with this problem and no one else had it.

>

> I take it that my computer is the fastest one running

> TheSkyv6 and an Ap mount out there?

> Does not make logical sense to me. So there must be someone

> else running on at 3.0ghz or faster. Do they experience the

> same problem as I did?



A sniffer, such as PortMon, can tell you if the Windows application sent the characters but it has no clue if the receiving device,

in this case your mount, actually received every character sent.



Also, you missed something else I wrote... the speed of the CPU is not the only factor in reproducing the problem. My main

development system runs Dual Xeon 3.06/1M CPUs and a 15,000RPM SCSI C: drive (and two 250GB IDE's), but I have a lot of background

processes running because of all the software I need to have installed for C++ and database development. So my system may not show

the problem, but I don't know for sure because I have not tried.

> You can take it that the 100 millisecond that was added fixed

> the problem so then in turn the computer was sending the

> command faster than the mount could read it?



The key is not how fast a single command is sent. The command is sent at the same speed... 9600 baud... whether the sending PC is a

lowly 33Mhz 386 CPU or a fire-breathing 3.0 GHz P4. The problem is that commands with no responses may need to have delays in

between them to give the mount time to process each command without overfilling the serial port input queue.



-Ray







----------------------------

#11724 Jan 19, 2005

Ray,



No, Ray, I'm not missing the point.



You are implying that TheSky does not check return values. It does.



You stated that you wait for a return value from *every* command.



The AP park command has no return value. There's nothing to wait for.



(Here we go again...)



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:03 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





> You wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> The reason PulseGuide works is that it always waits for

> replies before going on to the next command...

> <<<<<<<<<<<<

>

> According to the AP protocol, the park command does not give

> a response.

>

> So there's no way to wait for one...



Daniel, as did Dave, you are missing the point.



If TheSky sends a series of commands to the mount with *no* delay between each command it is possible that the serial queue could

fill up (on the mount) and characters dropped resulting in commands that don't appear to work. This can happen because each command

may not be processed immediately by the mount and/or may take a finite amount of time to complete before the next command can be

processed.



To circumvent this potential problem PulseGuide paces commands that have no response so as not to overfill the serial port queue.

The fact that the delay in TheSky solved Mark's problem indicates that perhaps TheSky should insert a small delay between commands

that send no response. Furthermore, you may want to check your other drivers to see if they ever blindly send a series of commands.

If any do you may find reliability will be increased if you insert delays in between those commands.



-Ray Gralak













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#11725 Jan 19, 2005

Daniel,



As Jim also pointed out you did not read far enough. The problem is not with commands that return a value. I never implied TheSky

does not check return values. Just take a breath and read what I originally wrote and maybe you will see the real issue.... that a

short delay should be placed in between commands to the mount that have NO reply.



-Ray

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Daniel R. Bisque [mailto:daniel@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:14 PM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> Ray,

>

> No, Ray, I'm not missing the point.

>

> You are implying that TheSky does not check return values. It does.

>

> You stated that you wait for a return value from *every* command.

>

> The AP park command has no return value. There's nothing to wait for.

>

> (Here we go again...)

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:03 PM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> > You wrote:

> >

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > The reason PulseGuide works is that it always waits for

> replies before

> > going on to the next command...

> > <<<<<<<<<<<<

> >

> > According to the AP protocol, the park command does not give a

> > response.

> >

> > So there's no way to wait for one...

>

> Daniel, as did Dave, you are missing the point.

>

> If TheSky sends a series of commands to the mount with *no*

> delay between each command it is possible that the serial

> queue could fill up (on the mount) and characters dropped

> resulting in commands that don't appear to work. This can

> happen because each command may not be processed immediately

> by the mount and/or may take a finite amount of time to

> complete before the next command can be processed.

>

> To circumvent this potential problem PulseGuide paces

> commands that have no response so as not to overfill the

> serial port queue.

> The fact that the delay in TheSky solved Mark's problem

> indicates that perhaps TheSky should insert a small delay

> between commands that send no response. Furthermore, you may

> want to check your other drivers to see if they ever blindly

> send a series of commands.

> If any do you may find reliability will be increased if you

> insert delays in between those commands.

>

> -Ray Gralak

>

>

>

>

>

>

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#11726 Jan 19, 2005

Ray,



Thank you for the clarification

I must say that is one screamer of a machine. the 15,000RPM SCSI C: drive

is the impressive part to me. After talking with the US Naval Observatory

in Arizona, is when I was first introduced to a SCSI drive.





Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"



----- Original Message -----

From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:50 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> Mark,

>

>> I was told that there is such a thing as a "serial port sniffer"

>> This put on the line will tell you not only if the command is

>> being sent but if the command actually reaches and is read by

>> the mount ( or any device on the other end) Only reason I

>> know about this is that is what my next step was after I was

>> the only one with this problem and no one else had it.

>>

>> I take it that my computer is the fastest one running

>> TheSkyv6 and an Ap mount out there?

>> Does not make logical sense to me. So there must be someone

>> else running on at 3.0ghz or faster. Do they experience the

>> same problem as I did?

>

> A sniffer, such as PortMon, can tell you if the Windows application sent

> the characters but it has no clue if the receiving device,

> in this case your mount, actually received every character sent.

>

> Also, you missed something else I wrote... the speed of the CPU is not the

> only factor in reproducing the problem. My main

> development system runs Dual Xeon 3.06/1M CPUs and a 15,000RPM SCSI C:

> drive (and two 250GB IDE's), but I have a lot of background

> processes running because of all the software I need to have installed for

> C++ and database development. So my system may not show

> the problem, but I don't know for sure because I have not tried.

>

>> You can take it that the 100 millisecond that was added fixed

>> the problem so then in turn the computer was sending the

>> command faster than the mount could read it?

>

> The key is not how fast a single command is sent. The command is sent at

> the same speed... 9600 baud... whether the sending PC is a

> lowly 33Mhz 386 CPU or a fire-breathing 3.0 GHz P4. The problem is that

> commands with no responses may need to have delays in

> between them to give the mount time to process each command without

> overfilling the serial port input queue.

>

> -Ray



----------------------------

#11728 Jan 19, 2005

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote: > A sniffer, such as PortMon, can tell you if the Windows application

sent the characters but it has no clue if the receiving device, > in this case your mount, actually received every character sent.



Not that; a real sniffer; the 'man-in-the-middle' type... a separate

dedicated hardware device that sits between the two devices chatting

on the serial port.



cheers,

Chris



----------------------------

#11729 Jan 19, 2005

Hi Chris,



Unfortunately even a hardware serial-port sniffer cannot tell if the mount received the characters properly. That is only possible

if you can debug at the mount's firmware.



Ideally, I think every command (especially important commands) should have an acknowledgement, but unfortunately the Meade protocol

was not designed that way.



-Ray

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:11 PM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > A sniffer, such as PortMon, can tell you if the Windows application

> sent the characters but it has no clue if the receiving device,

> > in this case your mount, actually received every character sent.

>

> Not that; a real sniffer; the 'man-in-the-middle' type... a

> separate dedicated hardware device that sits between the two

> devices chatting on the serial port.

>

> cheers,

> Chris

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list

> see groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>



----------------------------

#11730 Jan 19, 2005

Ray,



That is correct; it would not tell you if the AP serial buffer was

overflowing (since that would be downstream to the sniff). It would

show you a "blast" though... which as you know...



Meade proto; I agree 200%. I recently got burnt trying to use a meade

lx200 driver with a (new; does it matter?) 1200GTO - no worky. After

many hours of chasing my tail, I dug into the code and found that the

lx200 driver was sending an ACK (during init) and waiting for a reply

- something a Meade mount does, and something an AP mount doesn't...



cheers,

Chris



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> Hi Chris,

>

> Unfortunately even a hardware serial-port sniffer cannot tell if the

mount received the characters properly. That is only possible

> if you can debug at the mount's firmware.

>

> Ideally, I think every command (especially important commands)

should have an acknowledgement, but unfortunately the Meade protocol

> was not designed that way.

>

> -Ray

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@p...]

> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:11 PM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > > A sniffer, such as PortMon, can tell you if the Windows application

> > sent the characters but it has no clue if the receiving device,

> > > in this case your mount, actually received every character sent.

> >

> > Not that; a real sniffer; the 'man-in-the-middle' type... a

> > separate dedicated hardware device that sits between the two

> > devices chatting on the serial port.

> >

> > cheers,

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list

> > see groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >







----------------------------

#11732 Jan 20, 2005

Chris,



Yes, there are differences between the two protocols. The AP is both a subset and superset of the Meade protocol.



-Ray

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:25 PM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Ray,

>

> That is correct; it would not tell you if the AP serial

> buffer was overflowing (since that would be downstream to the

> sniff). It would show you a "blast" though... which as you know...

>

> Meade proto; I agree 200%. I recently got burnt trying to use

> a meade lx200 driver with a (new; does it matter?) 1200GTO -

> no worky. After many hours of chasing my tail, I dug into the

> code and found that the lx200 driver was sending an ACK

> (during init) and waiting for a reply

> - something a Meade mount does, and something an AP mount doesn't...

>

> cheers,

> Chris

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > Hi Chris,

> >

> > Unfortunately even a hardware serial-port sniffer cannot tell if the

> mount received the characters properly. That is only possible

> > if you can debug at the mount's firmware.

> >

> > Ideally, I think every command (especially important commands)

> should have an acknowledgement, but unfortunately the Meade protocol

> > was not designed that way.

> >

> > -Ray

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@p...]

> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:11 PM

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > > Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > > > A sniffer, such as PortMon, can tell you if the Windows

> > > > application

> > > sent the characters but it has no clue if the receiving device,

> > > > in this case your mount, actually received every

> character sent.

> > >

> > > Not that; a real sniffer; the 'man-in-the-middle' type...

> a separate

> > > dedicated hardware device that sits between the two

> devices chatting

> > > on the serial port.

> > >

> > > cheers,

> > > Chris

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list see

> > > groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto

> > > Yahoo! Groups Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list

> see groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>



----------------------------

#11733 Jan 20, 2005

Hi Mark,



You are welcome. SCSI drives are not commonly used on Windows PCs because they cost much more per gigabyte than IDE drives and

require an expensive controller. I am very pleased with the performance of the drive. It, a Seagate 15K.3 73.4 GB, is also rather

quiet and does not run excessively hot. I use this drive as the boot drive and for all of the program installs. I use the slower IDE

drives for mass storage.



I also use a smaller 18GB version of this drive in one of my LINUX PCs (only a single CPU, 2.8GHz P4) running Red Hat Enterprise

LINUX 3.1. It runs very well there too.



-Ray

> -----Original Message-----

> From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:30 PM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> Ray,

>

> Thank you for the clarification

> I must say that is one screamer of a machine. the 15,000RPM

> SCSI C: drive is the impressive part to me. After talking

> with the US Naval Observatory in Arizona, is when I was first

> introduced to a SCSI drive.

>

>

> Mark

> www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> N 27. 52' 20"

> W 082. 28' 57"

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Ray Gralak" ray@...>

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:50 PM

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> >

> > Mark,

> >

> >> I was told that there is such a thing as a "serial port sniffer"

> >> This put on the line will tell you not only if the command is

> >> being sent but if the command actually reaches and is read by

> >> the mount ( or any device on the other end) Only reason I

> >> know about this is that is what my next step was after I was

> >> the only one with this problem and no one else had it.

> >>

> >> I take it that my computer is the fastest one running

> >> TheSkyv6 and an Ap mount out there?

> >> Does not make logical sense to me. So there must be someone

> >> else running on at 3.0ghz or faster. Do they experience the

> >> same problem as I did?

> >

> > A sniffer, such as PortMon, can tell you if the Windows

> application sent

> > the characters but it has no clue if the receiving device,

> > in this case your mount, actually received every character sent.

> >

> > Also, you missed something else I wrote... the speed of the

> CPU is not the

> > only factor in reproducing the problem. My main

> > development system runs Dual Xeon 3.06/1M CPUs and a

> 15,000RPM SCSI C:

> > drive (and two 250GB IDE's), but I have a lot of background

> > processes running because of all the software I need to

> have installed for

> > C++ and database development. So my system may not show

> > the problem, but I don't know for sure because I have not tried.

> >

> >> You can take it that the 100 millisecond that was added fixed

> >> the problem so then in turn the computer was sending the

> >> command faster than the mount could read it?

> >

> > The key is not how fast a single command is sent. The

> command is sent at

> > the same speed... 9600 baud... whether the sending PC is a

> > lowly 33Mhz 386 CPU or a fire-breathing 3.0 GHz P4. The

> problem is that

> > commands with no responses may need to have delays in

> > between them to give the mount time to process each command without

> > overfilling the serial port input queue.

> >

> > -Ray

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list

> see groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>







----------------------------

#11734 Jan 20, 2005

Ray,



Yep - but I never ran into a lx200 driver that froze when trying to

connect to an AP mount. It really threw me for bit.... BTW, it was an

INDI driver.



cheers,

Chris

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> Chris,

>

> Yes, there are differences between the two protocols. The AP is both

a subset and superset of the Meade protocol.

>

> -Ray

>



----------------------------

#11735 Jan 20, 2005

Ray,



I've got a small fleet of those drives - they're great! I run 4 of

them (36g/15k) in my main linux server as raid 10. I also run a single

36g/15k in my Windows box. True, SCSI costs a *lot* more than (E)IDE,

but, the warranty is longer and the performance, as you know, just

plain smokesg>. The server drives haven't been turned off in years

and they're still rock solid. Mine run at the slower 160 rate as I

bought them before Adaptec came out with the 320 card... Nuttin like a

Seagate though...



cheers,

Chris

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> Hi Mark,

>

> You are welcome. SCSI drives are not commonly used on Windows PCs

because they cost much more per gigabyte than IDE drives and

> require an expensive controller. I am very pleased with the

performance of the drive. It, a Seagate 15K.3 73.4 GB, is also rather

> quiet and does not run excessively hot. I use this drive as the boot

drive and for all of the program installs. I use the slower IDE

> drives for mass storage.

>

> I also use a smaller 18GB version of this drive in one of my LINUX

PCs (only a single CPU, 2.8GHz P4) running Red Hat Enterprise

> LINUX 3.1. It runs very well there too.

>

> -Ray

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@t...]

> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:30 PM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > Ray,

> >

> > Thank you for the clarification

> > I must say that is one screamer of a machine. the 15,000RPM

> > SCSI C: drive is the impressive part to me. After talking

> > with the US Naval Observatory in Arizona, is when I was first

> > introduced to a SCSI drive.

> >

> >

> > Mark

> > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > N 27. 52' 20"

> > W 082. 28' 57"

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Ray Gralak" ray@g...>

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:50 PM

> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Mark,

> > >

> > >> I was told that there is such a thing as a "serial port sniffer"

> > >> This put on the line will tell you not only if the command is

> > >> being sent but if the command actually reaches and is read by

> > >> the mount ( or any device on the other end) Only reason I

> > >> know about this is that is what my next step was after I was

> > >> the only one with this problem and no one else had it.

> > >>

> > >> I take it that my computer is the fastest one running

> > >> TheSkyv6 and an Ap mount out there?

> > >> Does not make logical sense to me. So there must be someone

> > >> else running on at 3.0ghz or faster. Do they experience the

> > >> same problem as I did?

> > >

> > > A sniffer, such as PortMon, can tell you if the Windows

> > application sent

> > > the characters but it has no clue if the receiving device,

> > > in this case your mount, actually received every character sent.

> > >

> > > Also, you missed something else I wrote... the speed of the

> > CPU is not the

> > > only factor in reproducing the problem. My main

> > > development system runs Dual Xeon 3.06/1M CPUs and a

> > 15,000RPM SCSI C:

> > > drive (and two 250GB IDE's), but I have a lot of background

> > > processes running because of all the software I need to

> > have installed for

> > > C++ and database development. So my system may not show

> > > the problem, but I don't know for sure because I have not tried.

> > >

> > >> You can take it that the 100 millisecond that was added fixed

> > >> the problem so then in turn the computer was sending the

> > >> command faster than the mount could read it?

> > >

> > > The key is not how fast a single command is sent. The

> > command is sent at

> > > the same speed... 9600 baud... whether the sending PC is a

> > > lowly 33Mhz 386 CPU or a fire-breathing 3.0 GHz P4. The

> > problem is that

> > > commands with no responses may need to have delays in

> > > between them to give the mount time to process each command without

> > > overfilling the serial port input queue.

> > >

> > > -Ray

> >

> >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list

> > see groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >







----------------------------

#11736 Jan 20, 2005

Hi Chris,



Very nice! I always wanted to put together a RAID array but just never have.



The nice thing about the Seagates is that although they are not the absolute fastest SCSI drives they aren't that far off and they

are by far the most reliable. They also run quieter and cooler that other manufacturer's drives.



-Ray

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@...]

> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:36 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Ray,

>

> I've got a small fleet of those drives - they're great! I run

> 4 of them (36g/15k) in my main linux server as raid 10. I

> also run a single 36g/15k in my Windows box. True, SCSI costs

> a *lot* more than (E)IDE, but, the warranty is longer and the

> performance, as you know, just plain smokesg>. The server

> drives haven't been turned off in years and they're still

> rock solid. Mine run at the slower 160 rate as I bought them

> before Adaptec came out with the 320 card... Nuttin like a

> Seagate though...

>

> cheers,

> Chris

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > Hi Mark,

> >

> > You are welcome. SCSI drives are not commonly used on Windows PCs

> because they cost much more per gigabyte than IDE drives and

> > require an expensive controller. I am very pleased with the

> performance of the drive. It, a Seagate 15K.3 73.4 GB, is also rather

> > quiet and does not run excessively hot. I use this drive as the boot

> drive and for all of the program installs. I use the slower IDE

> > drives for mass storage.

> >

> > I also use a smaller 18GB version of this drive in one of my LINUX

> PCs (only a single CPU, 2.8GHz P4) running Red Hat Enterprise

> > LINUX 3.1. It runs very well there too.

> >

> > -Ray

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: aajohnah [mailto:aajohnah@t...]

> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:30 PM

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > > Ray,

> > >

> > > Thank you for the clarification

> > > I must say that is one screamer of a machine. the

> 15,000RPM SCSI C:

> > > drive is the impressive part to me. After talking with

> the US Naval

> > > Observatory in Arizona, is when I was first introduced to a SCSI

> > > drive.

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark

> > > www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

> > > N 27. 52' 20"

> > > W 082. 28' 57"

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: "Ray Gralak" ray@g...>

> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:50 PM

> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Mark,

> > > >

> > > >> I was told that there is such a thing as a "serial

> port sniffer"

> > > >> This put on the line will tell you not only if the command is

> > > >> being sent but if the command actually reaches and is

> read by the

> > > >> mount ( or any device on the other end) Only reason I

> know about

> > > >> this is that is what my next step was after I was the only one

> > > >> with this problem and no one else had it.

> > > >>

> > > >> I take it that my computer is the fastest one running

> > > >> TheSkyv6 and an Ap mount out there?

> > > >> Does not make logical sense to me. So there must be

> someone else

> > > >> running on at 3.0ghz or faster. Do they experience the same

> > > >> problem as I did?

> > > >

> > > > A sniffer, such as PortMon, can tell you if the Windows

> > > application sent

> > > > the characters but it has no clue if the receiving

> device, in this

> > > > case your mount, actually received every character sent.

> > > >

> > > > Also, you missed something else I wrote... the speed of the

> > > CPU is not the

> > > > only factor in reproducing the problem. My main

> development system

> > > > runs Dual Xeon 3.06/1M CPUs and a

> > > 15,000RPM SCSI C:

> > > > drive (and two 250GB IDE's), but I have a lot of background

> > > > processes running because of all the software I need to

> > > have installed for

> > > > C++ and database development. So my system may not show

> > > > the problem, but I don't know for sure because I have not tried.

> > > >

> > > >> You can take it that the 100 millisecond that was

> added fixed the

> > > >> problem so then in turn the computer was sending the command

> > > >> faster than the mount could read it?

> > > >

> > > > The key is not how fast a single command is sent. The

> > > command is sent at

> > > > the same speed... 9600 baud... whether the sending PC

> is a lowly

> > > > 33Mhz 386 CPU or a fire-breathing 3.0 GHz P4. The

> > > problem is that

> > > > commands with no responses may need to have delays in

> between them

> > > > to give the mount time to process each command without

> overfilling

> > > > the serial port input queue.

> > > >

> > > > -Ray

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list see

> > > groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto

> > > Yahoo! Groups Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list

> see groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>







----------------------------

#11737 Jan 20, 2005

Cool, do you know how many are involved with developing INDI drivers? I only recently became aware of the project. I guess it was

started because ASCOM seemingly has no intention of supporting platforms other than Windows?



-Ray

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@...]

> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:20 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

> Ray,

>

> Yep - but I never ran into a lx200 driver that froze when

> trying to connect to an AP mount. It really threw me for

> bit.... BTW, it was an INDI driver.

>

> cheers,

> Chris

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > Chris,

> >

> > Yes, there are differences between the two protocols. The AP is both

> a subset and superset of the Meade protocol.

> >

> > -Ray

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list

> see groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>



----------------------------

#11738 Jan 20, 2005

Ray, >

> The nice thing about the Seagates is that although they are not the

absolute fastest SCSI drives they aren't that far off and they > are by far the most reliable. They also run quieter and cooler that

other manufacturer's drives.



I agree 200%. They take a licking and keep on tickingg>. Although, I

do miss the old Micropolis drives... too bad they didn't make it....



cheers,

Chris



----------------------------

#11739 Jan 20, 2005

Ray,



About four total (counting me). I'm now working on the SBIG driver.

I'm not a fan of ASCOM; it's tied too tightly to Windows for my

tastes. The INDI spec is O/S agnostic in that it's XML based. As of

now, the only apps/drivers avail that use INDI are Unix/Linux based.

But the things you can do with those apps are simply astounding... for

example, using INDI, *every* device is reachable via an ethernet link

(mount, ccd, sbc that turns on/off lights/opens dome, etc). It's

built-in; not some hack you have to struggle through to make work.

Now, you take a cheap SBC with an embedded Linux running on it, fire

up an INDI server on it and strap it to your mount/pier.... well, you

get the idea....



BTW: Have you looked at KStars recently? Big WOW. Bisque should keep

an eye on this (free) product. It does things I wish TheSky6 did (like

display the name of the object your mouser is hovering over). And the

dev team is hot and heavy into this one....



cheers,

Chris



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> Cool, do you know how many are involved with developing INDI

drivers? I only recently became aware of the project. I guess it was

> started because ASCOM seemingly has no intention of supporting

platforms other than Windows?

>

> -Ray

>



----------------------------

#11740 Jan 20, 2005

Chris,

>> (like display the name of the object your mouser is hovering over)



TheSky's had this feature for years. And the contents of the popup is configurable in TheSky.



1. Click View | Toolbars.

2. Mark the "Object Tips" option.



For details,



1. Go to www.bisque.com/help.

2. Click on TheSky6 Help link.

3. Search for "Object Tips"



Direct URL:

www.bisque.com/help/TheSkyV6/TheSky_Version_6.htm#SKYToolbar_Dialog_Box.htm>



Thanks!



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@...]

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:04 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park









Ray,



About four total (counting me). I'm now working on the SBIG driver.

I'm not a fan of ASCOM; it's tied too tightly to Windows for my

tastes. The INDI spec is O/S agnostic in that it's XML based. As of

now, the only apps/drivers avail that use INDI are Unix/Linux based.

But the things you can do with those apps are simply astounding... for

example, using INDI, *every* device is reachable via an ethernet link

(mount, ccd, sbc that turns on/off lights/opens dome, etc). It's

built-in; not some hack you have to struggle through to make work.

Now, you take a cheap SBC with an embedded Linux running on it, fire

up an INDI server on it and strap it to your mount/pier.... well, you

get the idea....



BTW: Have you looked at KStars recently? Big WOW. Bisque should keep

an eye on this (free) product. It does things I wish TheSky6 did (like

display the name of the object your mouser is hovering over). And the

dev team is hot and heavy into this one....



cheers,

Chris



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> Cool, do you know how many are involved with developing INDI

drivers? I only recently became aware of the project. I guess it was

> started because ASCOM seemingly has no intention of supporting

platforms other than Windows?

>

> -Ray

>











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#11741 Jan 20, 2005

Daniel,



Cool! Now I can say that I haven't wasted a day - I learned something

todayg>. Still, and not to take away from TheSky6 (which I own and

use), KStars is really nice. Them boys are working hard over there (as

I know you are too). It'd be nicer if TheSky7 was ported to Qt and was

available for Linux systems (and the Mac release in sync with the Win

release)... I'd buy it (again) if it was available... I really like

TS6, and I do miss it when I'm running on a linux box...



cheers,

Chris

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@b...> wrote:

> Chris,

>

> >> (like display the name of the object your mouser is hovering over)

>

> TheSky's had this feature for years. And the contents of the popup

is configurable in TheSky.

>

> 1. Click View | Toolbars.

> 2. Mark the "Object Tips" option.

>

> For details,

>

> 1. Go to www.bisque.com/help.

> 2. Click on TheSky6 Help link.

> 3. Search for "Object Tips"

>

> Direct URL:

>

www.bisque.com/help/TheSkyV6/TheSky_Version_6.htm#SKYToolbar_Dialog_Box.htm>

>

> Thanks!

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@p...]

> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:04 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>

> Ray,

>

> About four total (counting me). I'm now working on the SBIG driver.

> I'm not a fan of ASCOM; it's tied too tightly to Windows for my

> tastes. The INDI spec is O/S agnostic in that it's XML based. As of

> now, the only apps/drivers avail that use INDI are Unix/Linux based.

> But the things you can do with those apps are simply astounding... for

> example, using INDI, *every* device is reachable via an ethernet link

> (mount, ccd, sbc that turns on/off lights/opens dome, etc). It's

> built-in; not some hack you have to struggle through to make work.

> Now, you take a cheap SBC with an embedded Linux running on it, fire

> up an INDI server on it and strap it to your mount/pier.... well, you

> get the idea....

>

> BTW: Have you looked at KStars recently? Big WOW. Bisque should keep

> an eye on this (free) product. It does things I wish TheSky6 did (like

> display the name of the object your mouser is hovering over). And the

> dev team is hot and heavy into this one....

>

> cheers,

> Chris

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > Cool, do you know how many are involved with developing INDI

> drivers? I only recently became aware of the project. I guess it was

> > started because ASCOM seemingly has no intention of supporting

> platforms other than Windows?

> >

> > -Ray

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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#11744 Jan 20, 2005

Thanks Daniel,

That's new and handy for me. I have The Sky 6 and have just started

using it. DOes it have the Caldwell or Sharpless catalogues?

Rick



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@b...>

wrote: > Chris,

>

> >> (like display the name of the object your mouser is hovering

over) >

> TheSky's had this feature for years. And the contents of the popup

is configurable in TheSky. >

> 1. Click View | Toolbars.

> 2. Mark the "Object Tips" option.

>

> For details,

>

> 1. Go to www.bisque.com/help.

> 2. Click on TheSky6 Help link.

> 3. Search for "Object Tips"

>

> Direct URL:

>

www.bisque.com/help/TheSkyV6/TheSky_Version_6.htm#SKYToolbar_

Dialog_Box.htm> >

> Thanks!

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@p...]

> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:04 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>

> Ray,

>

> About four total (counting me). I'm now working on the SBIG driver.

> I'm not a fan of ASCOM; it's tied too tightly to Windows for my

> tastes. The INDI spec is O/S agnostic in that it's XML based. As of

> now, the only apps/drivers avail that use INDI are Unix/Linux

based. > But the things you can do with those apps are simply astounding...

for > example, using INDI, *every* device is reachable via an ethernet

link > (mount, ccd, sbc that turns on/off lights/opens dome, etc). It's

> built-in; not some hack you have to struggle through to make work.

> Now, you take a cheap SBC with an embedded Linux running on it,

fire > up an INDI server on it and strap it to your mount/pier.... well,

you > get the idea....

>

> BTW: Have you looked at KStars recently? Big WOW. Bisque should

keep > an eye on this (free) product. It does things I wish TheSky6 did

(like > display the name of the object your mouser is hovering over). And

the > dev team is hot and heavy into this one....

>

> cheers,

> Chris

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > Cool, do you know how many are involved with developing INDI

> drivers? I only recently became aware of the project. I guess it

was > > started because ASCOM seemingly has no intention of supporting

> platforms other than Windows?

> >

> > -Ray

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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#11746 Jan 20, 2005

Rick,



Yes.



* The 109 objects in the Caldwell catalog are included as a "core database" in every Edition.

* The 313 objects in the "Sharpless Catalog Of H II Regions: is included as a separate "Sky Database" in TheSky6 Professional Edition.



For a comprehensive list of TheSky6's databases in each Edition,



1. Go to www.bisque.com/TheSky6.

2. Click on "TheSky6 Information Site" link.

3. Search for "TheSky6 Databases"



Direct URL:

www.bisque.com/v6/TheSky_Version_6.htm#TheSky6_Databases.htm>



Hope this helps.



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: Rick Wiggins [mailto:rickwiggins@...]

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:57 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park









Thanks Daniel,

That's new and handy for me. I have The Sky 6 and have just started

using it. DOes it have the Caldwell or Sharpless catalogues?

Rick



--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@b...>

wrote: > Chris,

>

> >> (like display the name of the object your mouser is hovering

over) >

> TheSky's had this feature for years. And the contents of the popup

is configurable in TheSky. >

> 1. Click View | Toolbars.

> 2. Mark the "Object Tips" option.

>

> For details,

>

> 1. Go to www.bisque.com/help.

> 2. Click on TheSky6 Help link.

> 3. Search for "Object Tips"

>

> Direct URL:

>

www.bisque.com/help/TheSkyV6/TheSky_Version_6.htm#SKYToolbar_

Dialog_Box.htm> >

> Thanks!

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@p...]

> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:04 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>

> Ray,

>

> About four total (counting me). I'm now working on the SBIG driver.

> I'm not a fan of ASCOM; it's tied too tightly to Windows for my

> tastes. The INDI spec is O/S agnostic in that it's XML based. As of

> now, the only apps/drivers avail that use INDI are Unix/Linux

based. > But the things you can do with those apps are simply astounding...

for > example, using INDI, *every* device is reachable via an ethernet

link > (mount, ccd, sbc that turns on/off lights/opens dome, etc). It's

> built-in; not some hack you have to struggle through to make work.

> Now, you take a cheap SBC with an embedded Linux running on it,

fire > up an INDI server on it and strap it to your mount/pier.... well,

you > get the idea....

>

> BTW: Have you looked at KStars recently? Big WOW. Bisque should

keep > an eye on this (free) product. It does things I wish TheSky6 did

(like > display the name of the object your mouser is hovering over). And

the > dev team is hot and heavy into this one....

>

> cheers,

> Chris

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > Cool, do you know how many are involved with developing INDI

> drivers? I only recently became aware of the project. I guess it

was > > started because ASCOM seemingly has no intention of supporting

> platforms other than Windows?

> >

> > -Ray

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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#11747 Jan 20, 2005

Chris,



You're correct on all accounts. Sounds like you want a job! VBG>



Daniel R. Bisque

Software Bisque

912 12th St.

Golden, CO 80401

USA

Email: daniel at bisque dot com

Web Site: www.bisque.com





-----Original Message-----

From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@...]

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:07 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park









Daniel,



Cool! Now I can say that I haven't wasted a day - I learned something

todayg>. Still, and not to take away from TheSky6 (which I own and

use), KStars is really nice. Them boys are working hard over there (as

I know you are too). It'd be nicer if TheSky7 was ported to Qt and was

available for Linux systems (and the Mac release in sync with the Win

release)... I'd buy it (again) if it was available... I really like

TS6, and I do miss it when I'm running on a linux box...



cheers,

Chris

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@b...> wrote:

> Chris,

>

> >> (like display the name of the object your mouser is hovering over)

>

> TheSky's had this feature for years. And the contents of the popup

is configurable in TheSky.

>

> 1. Click View | Toolbars.

> 2. Mark the "Object Tips" option.

>

> For details,

>

> 1. Go to www.bisque.com/help.

> 2. Click on TheSky6 Help link.

> 3. Search for "Object Tips"

>

> Direct URL:

>

www.bisque.com/help/TheSkyV6/TheSky_Version_6.htm#SKYToolbar_Dialog_Box.htm>

>

> Thanks!

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@p...]

> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:04 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>

> Ray,

>

> About four total (counting me). I'm now working on the SBIG driver.

> I'm not a fan of ASCOM; it's tied too tightly to Windows for my

> tastes. The INDI spec is O/S agnostic in that it's XML based. As of

> now, the only apps/drivers avail that use INDI are Unix/Linux based.

> But the things you can do with those apps are simply astounding... for

> example, using INDI, *every* device is reachable via an ethernet link

> (mount, ccd, sbc that turns on/off lights/opens dome, etc). It's

> built-in; not some hack you have to struggle through to make work.

> Now, you take a cheap SBC with an embedded Linux running on it, fire

> up an INDI server on it and strap it to your mount/pier.... well, you

> get the idea....

>

> BTW: Have you looked at KStars recently? Big WOW. Bisque should keep

> an eye on this (free) product. It does things I wish TheSky6 did (like

> display the name of the object your mouser is hovering over). And the

> dev team is hot and heavy into this one....

>

> cheers,

> Chris

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > Cool, do you know how many are involved with developing INDI

> drivers? I only recently became aware of the project. I guess it was

> > started because ASCOM seemingly has no intention of supporting

> platforms other than Windows?

> >

> > -Ray

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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#11748 Jan 20, 2005

Daniel.

Thanks for the reply. I see the Caldwell, and I see the Sky

Database, but I don't see the Sharpless entries in the Sky Database.

I bought the Professional edition. Any clues?

Rick





--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@b...>

wrote: > Rick,

>

> Yes.

>

> * The 109 objects in the Caldwell catalog are included as a "core

database" in every Edition. > * The 313 objects in the "Sharpless Catalog Of H II Regions: is

included as a separate "Sky Database" in TheSky6 Professional

Edition. >

> For a comprehensive list of TheSky6's databases in each Edition,

>

> 1. Go to www.bisque.com/TheSky6.

> 2. Click on "TheSky6 Information Site" link.

> 3. Search for "TheSky6 Databases"

>

> Direct URL:

>

www.bisque.com/v6/TheSky_Version_6.htm#TheSky6_Databases.htm> >

> Hope this helps.

>

> Daniel R. Bisque

> Software Bisque

> 912 12th St.

> Golden, CO 80401

> USA

> Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> Web Site: www.bisque.com

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rick Wiggins [mailto:rickwiggins@e...]

> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:57 AM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

>

>

> Thanks Daniel,

> That's new and handy for me. I have The Sky 6 and have just

started > using it. DOes it have the Caldwell or Sharpless catalogues?

> Rick

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel R. Bisque" daniel@b...>

> wrote:

> > Chris,

> >

> > >> (like display the name of the object your mouser is hovering

> over)

> >

> > TheSky's had this feature for years. And the contents of the

popup > is configurable in TheSky.

> >

> > 1. Click View | Toolbars.

> > 2. Mark the "Object Tips" option.

> >

> > For details,

> >

> > 1. Go to www.bisque.com/help.

> > 2. Click on TheSky6 Help link.

> > 3. Search for "Object Tips"

> >

> > Direct URL:

> >

>

www.bisque.com/help/TheSkyV6/TheSky_Version_6.htm#SKYToolbar_ > Dialog_Box.htm>

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Daniel R. Bisque

> > Software Bisque

> > 912 12th St.

> > Golden, CO 80401

> > USA

> > Email: daniel at bisque dot com

> > Web Site: www.bisque.com

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Chris Curran [mailto:ccurran@p...]

> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:04 AM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ray,

> >

> > About four total (counting me). I'm now working on the SBIG

driver. > > I'm not a fan of ASCOM; it's tied too tightly to Windows for my

> > tastes. The INDI spec is O/S agnostic in that it's XML based. As

of > > now, the only apps/drivers avail that use INDI are Unix/Linux

> based.

> > But the things you can do with those apps are simply

astounding... > for

> > example, using INDI, *every* device is reachable via an ethernet

> link

> > (mount, ccd, sbc that turns on/off lights/opens dome, etc). It's

> > built-in; not some hack you have to struggle through to make

work. > > Now, you take a cheap SBC with an embedded Linux running on it,

> fire

> > up an INDI server on it and strap it to your mount/pier....

well, > you

> > get the idea....

> >

> > BTW: Have you looked at KStars recently? Big WOW. Bisque should

> keep

> > an eye on this (free) product. It does things I wish TheSky6 did

> (like

> > display the name of the object your mouser is hovering over).

And > the

> > dev team is hot and heavy into this one....

> >

> > cheers,

> > Chris

> >

> >

> > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak" ray@g...> wrote:

> > > Cool, do you know how many are involved with developing INDI

> > drivers? I only recently became aware of the project. I guess

it > was

> > > started because ASCOM seemingly has no intention of supporting

> > platforms other than Windows?

> > >

> > > -Ray

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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#11749 Jan 20, 2005

At 02:16 PM 1/19/2005, Ray Gralak wrote:

> > I wouldn't call 9600 baud blasting ... and Mark is the only

> > one that reported a problem with his 1200 ...Marj reported

> > that all was well ...

> > We'll see if it happens more with faster processors.

>

>Dave, I don't think you understood what I said. It's not the baud rate,

>it's the timing *between* the commands. And the speed of the

>processor may not be the only factor. For instance, if you have a very

>fast but heavily loaded system (lots of background tasks)

>then the problem may not occur.



I know what you meant Ray, but the data is sent at a slow rate and is

packetized, so it is surprising that we'd see this happening, and only on

one mount and computer.

In addition, we're not talking about a stream of repeated commands, just

one. And it wouldn't have been preceded by a string of commands either. And

regardless of the processor speed, it would still get sent to the mount at

9600 baud. The problem may be in the FIFO itself, not being able to handle

the bus speed, but that also seems unlikely.



At any rate, it seems like Mark is OK for now.





Dave







----------------------------

#11750 Jan 20, 2005

Dave,

>

> At any rate, it seems like Mark is OK for now.



Yes you know me all to well

Correct, for now I am alright,



Mark



----- Original Message -----

From: "David B. Toth" ve3gyq@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:03 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> At 02:16 PM 1/19/2005, Ray Gralak wrote:

>

>> > I wouldn't call 9600 baud blasting ... and Mark is the only

>> > one that reported a problem with his 1200 ...Marj reported

>> > that all was well ...

>> > We'll see if it happens more with faster processors.

>>

>>Dave, I don't think you understood what I said. It's not the baud rate,

>>it's the timing *between* the commands. And the speed of the

>>processor may not be the only factor. For instance, if you have a very

>>fast but heavily loaded system (lots of background tasks)

>>then the problem may not occur.

>

> I know what you meant Ray, but the data is sent at a slow rate and is

> packetized, so it is surprising that we'd see this happening, and only on

> one mount and computer.

> In addition, we're not talking about a stream of repeated commands, just

> one. And it wouldn't have been preceded by a string of commands either.

> And

> regardless of the processor speed, it would still get sent to the mount at

> 9600 baud. The problem may be in the FIFO itself, not being able to handle

> the bus speed, but that also seems unlikely.

>

> At any rate, it seems like Mark is OK for now.

>

>

> Dave



----------------------------

#11751 Jan 20, 2005

At 05:57 PM 1/19/2005, mcmillanjr4221 wrote:



>Finishing the sentence Ray wrote which you quoted:

>

>"and even inserts a delay between commands that do not have

>responses to ensure the mount firmware has some time to process each

>command."

>

>It seems you didn't read far enough to get the point.

>

>Jim McMillan



Jim: it would not matter. It is an individual command, not part of a

string, and nothing follows it, so it isn't clear why inserting a delay

after would help anyway.



Dave



----------------------------

#11752 Jan 20, 2005

Jim: it would not matter. It is an individual command, not

> part of a string, and nothing follows it, so it isn't clear

> why inserting a delay after would help anyway.

>

> Dave

>

Actually, that is not true. TheSky queries for position.



And, I was just able to reproduce the problem with my mount and dual Xeon system. I have been using a slower 2.2 Ghz P4 and I never

park with TheSky anyway so I have tried this before.



So, maybe Dan will send me a fixed copy of the TheSky for me to try as well?



Thanks,



-Ray



----------------------------

#11753 Jan 20, 2005

Oops, that one line should have read:

> and I never park with TheSky anyway so I have never tried this before.



-Ray



----------------------------

#11754 Jan 20, 2005

Seems like we need the sound of a ping ball for background music! :)))





Steve



-----Original Message-----

From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:39 PM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





Oops, that one line should have read:

> and I never park with TheSky anyway so I have never tried this before.





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#11755 Jan 21, 2005

NO

Now I do not feel like I have some cosmic death ray pointed at my mount

g>

At least this is the second person that was able to re-produce the same

issue I had found with a faster processor



Mark

www.aajonahfish.com/astronomyhaven.htm

N 27. 52' 20"

W 082. 28' 57"

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Reilly" sreilly@...>

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:57 PM

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park





>

> Seems like we need the sound of a ping ball for background music! :)))

>

>

> Steve

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]

> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:39 PM

> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: 1200 mount Park

>

>

> Oops, that one line should have read:

>

>> and I never park with TheSky anyway so I have never tried this before.

>

>

> -Ray

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

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> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.

> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005

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