Re: 120# of scope/camera 45 minute sub exposures, no PEC/PEMPRO etc


Feb 12 4:02 PM

 


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#14352 Feb 12 4:02 PM

no AO7 or other fancy stuff, just plain old guiding with a Lumicon

Giant Easy Guider and an ST7ME guider



imaging at 5760mm .....

www.narrowbandimaging.com/m1_mk1sn2_ha_page.htm



the ap1200gto just keeps humming along even with a 450mm f/12.6

cassegrain atop it with an extension bar and five counterweights :-)



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#14360 Feb 14 10:09 PM

But the question I have is, "How do you fit all your gear into your

Porsche, Richard?!!!" :-)



Do you still have the picture of you standing in front of your gear and

your porsche at the peak?



I just bought an AP1200 from Denny and it included one of those big

ScopeGuard cases... the discontinued one that holds both halves in the

same case. I swear the case is a good #70 when it's empty! I look

forward to hearing how you pack up your mount and protect it from

getting marred.





btw - your cassegrain looks like it's coming together quite well.



Dave





--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "rdcrisp" rdcrisp@...> wrote:

>

> no AO7 or other fancy stuff, just plain old guiding with a Lumicon

> Giant Easy Guider and an ST7ME guider

>

> imaging at 5760mm .....

> www.narrowbandimaging.com/m1_mk1sn2_ha_page.htm

>

> the ap1200gto just keeps humming along even with a 450mm f/12.6

> cassegrain atop it with an extension bar and five counterweights :-)

>



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#14364 Feb 15 9:28 AM

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "mogulskier_groups"

mogulskier_groups@...> wrote: >

> But the question I have is, "How do you fit all your gear into your

> Porsche, Richard?!!!" :-)



Depends on which Porsche you have in mind.



The Carrera will hold the AP1200GTO, tall pier, and the camera lens

setup and possibly the FSQ setup. The 928 would carry the C14,

AP1200, tall pier etc.



I would imagine I can fit the 18" in the 928 if I worked at it.



>

> Do you still have the picture of you standing in front of your gear

and > your porsche at the peak?



I am not sure. I'd have to look Dave.



>

> I just bought an AP1200 from Denny and it included one of those big

> ScopeGuard cases... the discontinued one that holds both halves in

the > same case. I swear the case is a good #70 when it's empty! I look

> forward to hearing how you pack up your mount and protect it from

> getting marred.

>



That would be Denny Thompson, right? I fixed his St10XMe when he

sheared off a screw in it one time. Nice guy, airline pilot....



I pack my mount up the easy way: i just wrap it up in a towel or

blanket and put it on the floorboard of the X5 when I go to the Peak.





>

> btw - your cassegrain looks like it's coming together quite well.



If I could only have some good weather and seeing conditions now....



>

> Dave

>

>

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "rdcrisp" rdcrisp@> wrote:

> >

> > no AO7 or other fancy stuff, just plain old guiding with a

Lumicon > > Giant Easy Guider and an ST7ME guider

> >

> > imaging at 5760mm .....

> > www.narrowbandimaging.com/m1_mk1sn2_ha_page.htm

> >

> > the ap1200gto just keeps humming along even with a 450mm f/12.6

> > cassegrain atop it with an extension bar and five

counterweights :-) > >

>



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#14366 Feb 15 10:40 AM

Hi Richard,

I use a similar system. I have my AP1200 in a heavy cardboard box

wrapped all around by heavy bubble wrap. Keeps it from rattling

around and protects in case of heavier impact.

Price...low budget!

Rick

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "rdcrisp" rdcrisp@...> wrote:

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "mogulskier_groups"

> mogulskier_groups@> wrote:

> >

> > But the question I have is, "How do you fit all your gear into

your

> > Porsche, Richard?!!!" :-)

>

> Depends on which Porsche you have in mind.

>

> The Carrera will hold the AP1200GTO, tall pier, and the camera lens

> setup and possibly the FSQ setup. The 928 would carry the C14,

> AP1200, tall pier etc.

>

> I would imagine I can fit the 18" in the 928 if I worked at it.

>

>

> >

> > Do you still have the picture of you standing in front of your

gear

> and

> > your porsche at the peak?

>

> I am not sure. I'd have to look Dave.

>

>

> >

> > I just bought an AP1200 from Denny and it included one of those

big

> > ScopeGuard cases... the discontinued one that holds both halves

in

> the

> > same case. I swear the case is a good #70 when it's empty! I

look

> > forward to hearing how you pack up your mount and protect it from

> > getting marred.

> >

>

> That would be Denny Thompson, right? I fixed his St10XMe when he

> sheared off a screw in it one time. Nice guy, airline pilot....

>

> I pack my mount up the easy way: i just wrap it up in a towel or

> blanket and put it on the floorboard of the X5 when I go to the

Peak.

>

>

>

> >

> > btw - your cassegrain looks like it's coming together quite well.

>

> If I could only have some good weather and seeing conditions now....

>

>

> >

> > Dave

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "rdcrisp" rdcrisp@> wrote:

> > >

> > > no AO7 or other fancy stuff, just plain old guiding with a

> Lumicon

> > > Giant Easy Guider and an ST7ME guider

> > >

> > > imaging at 5760mm .....

> > > www.narrowbandimaging.com/m1_mk1sn2_ha_page.htm

> > >

> > > the ap1200gto just keeps humming along even with a 450mm f/12.6

> > > cassegrain atop it with an extension bar and five

> counterweights :-)

> > >

> >

>







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#14372 Feb 16 8:09 AM

Hi Richard,

I am adding this for others benefit and feedback. I have used the

cardboard boxes for about a year. I did this for several reasons. One

is that I didn't have $1000 for custom cases. A second and even more

compelling reason is that the custom cases weigh so much. Yes they

are excellent for shipping airfreight, but so heavy as to be

impractical for carrying the equipment.

I have been toying around with the idea of building custom wooden

cases with foam. As soon as I find a foam dealer where I can get some

good foam (the sort of heavy kind that doesn't flake or deteriorate

over time, and not pluck foam), I will proceed with this project.

These will not be sufficient fro airfreight, but excellent for

traveling to dark sky sites and home storage. I could easily build a

heavy shipping palete box to surround them if I needed to airfreight.

What do you think?

Rick

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "rdcrisp" rdcrisp@...> wrote:

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Wiggins" rickwiggins@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Richard,

> > I use a similar system. I have my AP1200 in a heavy cardboard box

> > wrapped all around by heavy bubble wrap. Keeps it from rattling

> > around and protects in case of heavier impact.

> > Price...low budget!

> > Rick

>

>

> I also use one of those "milk crates" with the collapsable handle

and

> wheels for holding the RA axis. I put a piece of bubble wrap inside

> and it fits great. I use that when I don't put the RA part on the

> floorboard of the X5

>

> I had thought about buying a few hundred dollars worth of cases,

but

> so far haven't seen that I need them yet. When I do an expedition

> overseas somewhere I will need them at that time probably.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "rdcrisp" rdcrisp@> wrote:

> > >

> > > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "mogulskier_groups"

> > > mogulskier_groups@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > But the question I have is, "How do you fit all your gear

into

> > your

> > > > Porsche, Richard?!!!" :-)

> > >

> > > Depends on which Porsche you have in mind.

> > >

> > > The Carrera will hold the AP1200GTO, tall pier, and the camera

> lens

> > > setup and possibly the FSQ setup. The 928 would carry the C14,

> > > AP1200, tall pier etc.

> > >

> > > I would imagine I can fit the 18" in the 928 if I worked at it.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Do you still have the picture of you standing in front of

your

> > gear

> > > and

> > > > your porsche at the peak?

> > >

> > > I am not sure. I'd have to look Dave.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I just bought an AP1200 from Denny and it included one of

those

> > big

> > > > ScopeGuard cases... the discontinued one that holds both

halves

> > in

> > > the

> > > > same case. I swear the case is a good #70 when it's empty!

I

> > look

> > > > forward to hearing how you pack up your mount and protect it

> from

> > > > getting marred.

> > > >

> > >

> > > That would be Denny Thompson, right? I fixed his St10XMe when

he

> > > sheared off a screw in it one time. Nice guy, airline pilot....

> > >

> > > I pack my mount up the easy way: i just wrap it up in a towel

or

> > > blanket and put it on the floorboard of the X5 when I go to the

> > Peak.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > btw - your cassegrain looks like it's coming together quite

> well.

> > >

> > > If I could only have some good weather and seeing conditions

> now....

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dave

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "rdcrisp" rdcrisp@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > no AO7 or other fancy stuff, just plain old guiding with a

> > > Lumicon

> > > > > Giant Easy Guider and an ST7ME guider

> > > > >

> > > > > imaging at 5760mm .....

> > > > > www.narrowbandimaging.com/m1_mk1sn2_ha_page.htm

> > > > >

> > > > > the ap1200gto just keeps humming along even with a 450mm

> f/12.6

> > > > > cassegrain atop it with an extension bar and five

> > > counterweights :-)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>



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#14374 Feb 16 12:52 PM

Another advantage of custom wood boxes is they will take the minimum

amount of space to do the job. The commercial cases protect the

equipment well, but they add too much weight and consume more than

their share of the trunk space.



As far as foam, you may want to consider closed cell foam, like a

camping pad. You can use thinner pieces and still provide the

protection. The mounts are fairly rugged but they are susceptible

to chipped paint and thus need that level of protection.



Bryan

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Wiggins" rickwiggins@...>

wrote: >

> Hi Richard,

> I am adding this for others benefit and feedback. I have used the

> cardboard boxes for about a year. I did this for several reasons.

One > is that I didn't have $1000 for custom cases. A second and even

more > compelling reason is that the custom cases weigh so much. Yes they

> are excellent for shipping airfreight, but so heavy as to be

> impractical for carrying the equipment.

> I have been toying around with the idea of building custom wooden

> cases with foam. As soon as I find a foam dealer where I can get

some > good foam (the sort of heavy kind that doesn't flake or

deteriorate > over time, and not pluck foam), I will proceed with this project.

> These will not be sufficient fro airfreight, but excellent for

> traveling to dark sky sites and home storage. I could easily build

a > heavy shipping palete box to surround them if I needed to

airfreight. > What do you think?

> Rick

>

> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "rdcrisp" rdcrisp@> wrote:

> >

> > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Wiggins" rickwiggins@>

wrote: > > >

> > > Hi Richard,

> > > I use a similar system. I have my AP1200 in a heavy cardboard

box > > > wrapped all around by heavy bubble wrap. Keeps it from

rattling > > > around and protects in case of heavier impact.

> > > Price...low budget!

> > > Rick

> >

> >

> > I also use one of those "milk crates" with the collapsable

handle > and

> > wheels for holding the RA axis. I put a piece of bubble wrap

inside > > and it fits great. I use that when I don't put the RA part on

the > > floorboard of the X5

> >

> > I had thought about buying a few hundred dollars worth of cases,

> but

> > so far haven't seen that I need them yet. When I do an

expedition > > overseas somewhere I will need them at that time probably.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "rdcrisp" rdcrisp@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "mogulskier_groups"

> > > > mogulskier_groups@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > But the question I have is, "How do you fit all your gear

> into

> > > your

> > > > > Porsche, Richard?!!!" :-)

> > > >

> > > > Depends on which Porsche you have in mind.

> > > >

> > > > The Carrera will hold the AP1200GTO, tall pier, and the

camera > > lens

> > > > setup and possibly the FSQ setup. The 928 would carry the

C14, > > > > AP1200, tall pier etc.

> > > >

> > > > I would imagine I can fit the 18" in the 928 if I worked at

it. > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you still have the picture of you standing in front of

> your

> > > gear

> > > > and

> > > > > your porsche at the peak?

> > > >

> > > > I am not sure. I'd have to look Dave.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I just bought an AP1200 from Denny and it included one of

> those

> > > big

> > > > > ScopeGuard cases... the discontinued one that holds both

> halves

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > same case. I swear the case is a good #70 when it's

empty! > I

> > > look

> > > > > forward to hearing how you pack up your mount and protect

it > > from

> > > > > getting marred.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > That would be Denny Thompson, right? I fixed his St10XMe

when > he

> > > > sheared off a screw in it one time. Nice guy, airline

pilot.... > > > >

> > > > I pack my mount up the easy way: i just wrap it up in a

towel > or

> > > > blanket and put it on the floorboard of the X5 when I go to

the > > > Peak.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > btw - your cassegrain looks like it's coming together

quite > > well.

> > > >

> > > > If I could only have some good weather and seeing conditions

> > now....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dave

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "rdcrisp" rdcrisp@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > no AO7 or other fancy stuff, just plain old guiding with

a > > > > Lumicon

> > > > > > Giant Easy Guider and an ST7ME guider

> > > > > >

> > > > > > imaging at 5760mm .....

> > > > > > www.narrowbandimaging.com/m1_mk1sn2_ha_page.htm

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the ap1200gto just keeps humming along even with a 450mm

> > f/12.6

> > > > > > cassegrain atop it with an extension bar and five

> > > > counterweights :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>







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