Re: [ap-gto] Re: 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is


May 14, 2013

 


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#40608 May 14, 2013

I have the Plane Wave scope on a 900 mount. About to acquire a Televue 101is. Will the mount handle this additional scope? If yes, what would be the best configuration--piggyback or side-by-side?

Geoff



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#40613 May 14, 2013

Side by side is always preferred.



Rolando





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I have the Plane Wave scope on a 900 mount. About to acquire a Televue 101is.

Will the mount handle this additional scope? If yes, what would be the best

configuration--piggyback or side-by-side?

Geoff







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#40616 May 14, 2013

I guess for unequal size scopes it might not matter what you do. However, for two scopes that are similar, then the further away you mount the scope from the axis, the more torque it presents to the mount and the more counterweights you will need.



Rolando





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Rolando, that really surprises me. Don't the gadgets that allow side to side

mounting exhibit a lot of flex? I've never tried them but they don't look as

solid as mounting piggyback.







Greg







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Side by side is always preferred.



Rolando



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I have the Plane Wave scope on a 900 mount. About to acquire a Televue

101is.

Will the mount handle this additional scope? If yes, what would be the best

configuration--piggyback or side-by-side?

Geoff



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#40620 May 14, 2013

Rolando,







Yes, I can see the torque argument. I was thinking he'd want 2 scopes to use

one for guiding. That's where the flex issue comes up. Have you tried such a

side by side mounting using one scope for guiding or were you strictly

addressing just the torque issue? By the way, I just (like minutes ago)

received my 12.5 Planewave and plan to use it on my AP900 with a Televue

Pronto for guiding - almost exactly the same configuration Geoff was asking

about.







Greg







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I guess for unequal size scopes it might not matter what you do. However,

for two scopes that are similar, then the further away you mount the scope

from the axis, the more torque it presents to the mount and the more

counterweights you will need.



Rolando



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Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is



Rolando, that really surprises me. Don't the gadgets that allow side to side

mounting exhibit a lot of flex? I've never tried them but they don't look as

solid as mounting piggyback.



Greg



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Side by side is always preferred.



Rolando



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Subject: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is



I have the Plane Wave scope on a 900 mount. About to acquire a Televue

101is.

Will the mount handle this additional scope? If yes, what would be the best

configuration--piggyback or side-by-side?

Geoff



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#40622 May 14, 2013

I think the question of guide scope vs. off-axis guider is almost a

religious issue. I've had very good luck using a guide scope with a 10"

LX200. Many people say using a guide scope with an SCT is impossible. But it

works for me with 10 minute subs and has about the same focal length as the

Planewave. Obviously, just because it's worked for me in the past doesn't

guarantee it'll work with the Planewave (which I do expect more from than

the LX200) but I have high hopes. If necessary I'll switch to a MOAG but

that opens up a lot of issues not present if the guide scope approach works.









I'd be interested to know if Geoff original question was based on using the

2nd scope for guiding.







Greg







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I would not use a seperate guidescope for anything like a 12" Planewave.

There is no way that you will be successful except for very short exposures.

Focal lengths are too long and too much room for error. Off-axis guider is

the only sensible way to guide.



Rolando



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Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is



Rolando,



Yes, I can see the torque argument. I was thinking he'd want 2 scopes to use

one for guiding. That's where the flex issue comes up. Have you tried such a

side by side mounting using one scope for guiding or were you strictly

addressing just the torque issue? By the way, I just (like minutes ago)

received my 12.5 Planewave and plan to use it on my AP900 with a Televue

Pronto for guiding - almost exactly the same configuration Geoff was asking

about.



Greg



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I guess for unequal size scopes it might not matter what you do. However,

for two scopes that are similar, then the further away you mount the scope

from the axis, the more torque it presents to the mount and the more

counterweights you will need.



Rolando



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Rolando, that really surprises me. Don't the gadgets that allow side to side

mounting exhibit a lot of flex? I've never tried them but they don't look as

solid as mounting piggyback.



Greg



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Side by side is always preferred.



Rolando



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Subject: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is



I have the Plane Wave scope on a 900 mount. About to acquire a Televue

101is.

Will the mount handle this additional scope? If yes, what would be the best

configuration--piggyback or side-by-side?

Geoff



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#40627 May 14, 2013

Geoff,



I have a CDK12.5 on an AP900, which obviously has no problem handling the

load. I've considered piggybacking my Tak FSQ106EDX on top - similar to

what you're asking. I'm not so concerned about the load (which I think the

AP900 can handle) as I am about possible torquing of the CDK itself. With

the FSQ mounted on the top rail, I wonder about the effect of all that mass

hanging off the CDK, especially with the mount in a CW almost up position,

and the scopes laying to the side.



Maybe someone from PlaneWave can speak up and let us know if this is a

possible issue or not. Most recently, I've been thinking of a side-by-side

arrangement for this reason.



Sean



On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:10 PM, geoff ghsmith45@...> wrote:



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>

>

> Thanks for all the replies. I have no intention of using either telescope

> as a guider for the other. I have a QSI with a built in off axis guider,

> which is what I always use. There is one advantage that I can see for

> piggyback band that is that it would be easy to remove the small scope with

> minimal rebalancing if I wanted to use it for just looking around while the

> big scope was imaging.

> As to my original question as to whether or not the mount can handle the

> two scopes, nobody has thrown up their hands in horror at the suggestion,

> so I presume the answer is yes.

> Geoff

>

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#40628 May 14, 2013

+1, the OAG is lighter, stiffer, safer, and also allows potential primary shiftting/flipping compensation.

(maybe not the case with the CDK12.5, but a classical issue of STC and newtonians)



Olivier





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I would not use a seperate guidescope for anything like a 12" Planewave. There is no way that you will be successful except for very short exposures. Focal lengths are too long and too much room for error. Off-axis guider is the only sensible way to guide.



Rolando



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Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is



Rolando,



Yes, I can see the torque argument. I was thinking he'd want 2 scopes to use

one for guiding. That's where the flex issue comes up. Have you tried such a

side by side mounting using one scope for guiding or were you strictly

addressing just the torque issue? By the way, I just (like minutes ago)

received my 12.5 Planewave and plan to use it on my AP900 with a Televue

Pronto for guiding - almost exactly the same configuration Geoff was asking

about.



Greg



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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:49 AM

To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is



I guess for unequal size scopes it might not matter what you do. However,

for two scopes that are similar, then the further away you mount the scope

from the axis, the more torque it presents to the mount and the more

counterweights you will need.



Rolando



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Sent: Tue, May 14, 2013 10:35 am

Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is



Rolando, that really surprises me. Don't the gadgets that allow side to side

mounting exhibit a lot of flex? I've never tried them but they don't look as

solid as mounting piggyback.



Greg



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Side by side is always preferred.



Rolando



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Subject: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is



I have the Plane Wave scope on a 900 mount. About to acquire a Televue

101is.

Will the mount handle this additional scope? If yes, what would be the best

configuration--piggyback or side-by-side?

Geoff



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#40630 May 14, 2013

Hi Geoff,



The diameter of the CDK12.5 is quite large. The NP101 and its male/female dovetail will be far away from the mount plate, applying a large couple. You will need a lot of couterweight.

At my side I have tried to put a TEC160ED together with an AP130 and and AP105. The TEC160ED and the AP130 together give about the sale height as the CDK12,5, may be even lower, and the weight is similar or a little bit heavier. It was not possible to put the AP105 at the top of this pile, it required too many counterweights. (and likey to have "some" flexure...).



Then I tried a side by side configuration, wich worked much better : the TED160ED at a side and the AP130 and AP105 at the other side (the AP105 is mounted at the top of the AP130 using DOVE8 and the 8" sliding bar). I have tried guiding the TEC160 using the AP105, and it worked fine to my surprise. But the side by side bar I used is extremly stiff. That said is really heavy, the bar is full of couterweight and it is becoming more sensitive to wind of course...



Balancing is an issue only the first time. Then you can do some marks on the dovetails, in order you can easilly find the right position without having to balance again.

I am using color adhesive tape for instance. I have one set of blue marks for my deep sy imaging setup and another set of red mark for solar observation config..



But I understand your position. May be you could simulate the weight of the NP101 in a side by side configuration: add some weight to replace the NP101 when you remove it; not as good as rebalancing and removing weight, but sufficient if you want to use the small scope as a grab and go scope. And anyway in this case, likely you will not use the CDK12.5, so you can just thurn the DEC axis in order to put the CDK12.5 in the lowest position, where it will stay stable while you are using the small scope outside.



Olivier





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.

Thanks for all the replies. I have no intention of using either telescope as a guider for the other. I have a QSI with a built in off axis guider, which is what I always use. There is one advantage that I can see for piggyback band that is that it would be easy to remove the small scope with minimal rebalancing if I wanted to use it for just looking around while the big scope was imaging.

As to my original question as to whether or not the mount can handle the two scopes, nobody has thrown up their hands in horror at the suggestion, so I presume the answer is yes.

Geoff

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> Rolando ,

> I do have a side by side adapter as I was told it is better , could you explain why it is superior

> Thanks

> Suresh

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On May 14, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Greg Salyer salyer@...> wrote:

>

> > Rolando, that really surprises me. Don't the gadgets that allow side to side

> > mounting exhibit a lot of flex? I've never tried them but they don't look as

> > solid as mounting piggyback.

> >

> > Greg

> >

> > From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

> > chris1011@...

> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:08 AM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is

> >

> > Side by side is always preferred.

> >

> > Rolando

> >

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> > Sent: Tue, May 14, 2013 2:11 am

> > Subject: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is

> >

> > I have the Plane Wave scope on a 900 mount. About to acquire a Televue

> > 101is.

> > Will the mount handle this additional scope? If yes, what would be the best

> > configuration--piggyback or side-by-side?

> > Geoff

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#40631 May 14, 2013

precision : when I say the parallel guiding worked fine, I mean it wirked well enough with my set up. 9. pixels, about 1200mm focal length and average seeing. So the flexure was not the limiting factor in that particular case.



Of course with the CDK, this would be much more critical.



Likely you could not guide the CDK using the NP101is, but maybe you coulud guide the NP101is using the CDK as the guide scope (using binning and/or reducer)





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Hi Geoff,



The diameter of the CDK12.5 is quite large. The NP101 and its male/female dovetail will be far away from the mount plate, applying a large couple. You will need a lot of couterweight.

At my side I have tried to put a TEC160ED together with an AP130 and and AP105. The TEC160ED and the AP130 together give about the sale height as the CDK12,5, may be even lower, and the weight is similar or a little bit heavier. It was not possible to put the AP105 at the top of this pile, it required too many counterweights. (and likey to have "some" flexure...).



Then I tried a side by side configuration, wich worked much better : the TED160ED at a side and the AP130 and AP105 at the other side (the AP105 is mounted at the top of the AP130 using DOVE8 and the 8" sliding bar). I have tried guiding the TEC160 using the AP105, and it worked fine to my surprise. But the side by side bar I used is extremly stiff. That said is really heavy, the bar is full of couterweight and it is becoming more sensitive to wind of course...



Balancing is an issue only the first time. Then you can do some marks on the dovetails, in order you can easilly find the right position without having to balance again.

I am using color adhesive tape for instance. I have one set of blue marks for my deep sy imaging setup and another set of red mark for solar observation config..



But I understand your position. May be you could simulate the weight of the NP101 in a side by side configuration: add some weight to replace the NP101 when you remove it; not as good as rebalancing and removing weight, but sufficient if you want to use the small scope as a grab and go scope. And anyway in this case, likely you will not use the CDK12.5, so you can just thurn the DEC axis in order to put the CDK12.5 in the lowest position, where it will stay stable while you are using the small scope outside.



Olivier



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.

Thanks for all the replies. I have no intention of using either telescope as a guider for the other. I have a QSI with a built in off axis guider, which is what I always use. There is one advantage that I can see for piggyback band that is that it would be easy to remove the small scope with minimal rebalancing if I wanted to use it for just looking around while the big scope was imaging.

As to my original question as to whether or not the mount can handle the two scopes, nobody has thrown up their hands in horror at the suggestion, so I presume the answer is yes.

Geoff

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, Suresh Mohan drsureshmohan@...> wrote:

>

> Rolando ,

> I do have a side by side adapter as I was told it is better , could you explain why it is superior

> Thanks

> Suresh

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On May 14, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Greg Salyer salyer@...> wrote:

>

> > Rolando, that really surprises me. Don't the gadgets that allow side to side

> > mounting exhibit a lot of flex? I've never tried them but they don't look as

> > solid as mounting piggyback.

> >

> > Greg

> >

> > From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

> > chris1011@...

> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:08 AM

> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is

> >

> > Side by side is always preferred.

> >

> > Rolando

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: geoff ghsmith45@... mailto:ghsmith45%40gmail.com> >

> > To: ap-gto ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> >

> > Sent: Tue, May 14, 2013 2:11 am

> > Subject: [ap-gto] 12.5 Planewave CDK + Televue 101is

> >

> > I have the Plane Wave scope on a 900 mount. About to acquire a Televue

> > 101is.

> > Will the mount handle this additional scope? If yes, what would be the best

> > configuration--piggyback or side-by-side?

> > Geoff

> >

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